Two tidbits

techjacket said:
Just in from a very reliable source. Sorry, can't give any names but you can believe it. Charlie Strong is interviewing today and for those of you(including myself) who want Hatcher don't get your hopes up. From what I was told, DRad isn't looking at him to hard.(experience)
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No offense, but I hope you are wrong!
 
Another thought about Strong.

If DRad hires Strong and it doesn't pan out. DRad may live to make another coaching hire.

If DRad hires Muschamp, and it doesn't work out. DRad probably goes down with him.

If DRad hires New-weasle, and we end up with an NCAA rules violation; his fault, my fault, the admins fault; the alumni base will be safety wired to fire them both.
 
Is it fair to say if someone's name is on the gold placard on the outside of Dodd stadium...are they considered to be high up in the GTAA....if so how much money do you think they've given?
 
aeromech said:
Another thought about Strong.

If DRad hires Strong and it doesn't pan out. DRad may live to make another coaching hire.

If DRad hires Muschamp, and it doesn't work out. DRad probably goes down with him.

If DRad hires New-weasle, and we end up with an NCAA rules violation; his fault, my fault, the admins fault; the alumni base will be safety wired to fire them both.
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You could make simialr cases that DRad goes down with the ship taking RE or CH as well. One for an only slightly good record to date. The other for hiring someone with very little D1 experience.

Strong is definitely his safest choice when it comes to keeping the demons away if he fails. I see alot of upside from a recruiting and fanbase standpoint. I just wish I knew what kept him from getting those other jobs.

One other thing to consider about him. He's from Arkansas and the Hog nation is starting their 'Why not Charlie?' chant.
 
I agree with the above assessment and I hope Drad is not looking at the "safe" hire. I hope he doesn't consider someone with a lot of baggage. CS intrigues me and I think he would have a very easy time of recruiting her. I still think PJ is the best available. Also i have thrown Dave Christensen name out several times but no one seems interested. I would be curious to know why.
 
You could make simialr cases that DRad goes down with the ship taking RE or CH as well. One for an only slightly good record to date.
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No where near as much for New-weasel though, and probably not as much for Muschamp either.
 
clapper said:
You could make simialr cases that DRad goes down with the ship taking RE or CH as well.
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Muschamp is a little more risky (than RE or CH) in my opinion simply because he is a dawg. Neuheisal is simply a grenade waiting for someone to pull the pin; which is too bad because he might be the most sound candidate otherwise.
 
I'm pretty sure 'safe' sailed when Rad fired a 'winning' coach.

If Rd pulls that $4M trigger then hires 'safe' he is clueless.

Safe would be Chan in 2008 with ultimatums and the chosen successor (say Jimbo) placed on staff (ala O'Leary on BL's staff).

This is why I don't count out Neuheisel. DRad seems impatient and very confident. Hatcher, Muschamp, Edsall could take years to decide about. You will know if the Rick decision was good in 12 months max IMHO. No problems going in another direction at that time if necessary (assuming no NCAA issues...)

IMHO he has by far the best odds of rolling in here and winning 11 in year one.
 
I think all of you are misunderstanding. I don't think it is factoring into his decision. But should any of those candidates struggle here, DRad most likely gets a pass from the fanbase and media if the HC is CS. The others will likely knock him down a peg at best, or take him and the entire ship along with them.
 
clapper said:
I think all of you are misunderstanding. I don't think it is factoring into his decision. But should any of those candidates struggle here, DRad most likely gets a pass from the fanbase and media if the HC is CS. The others will likely knock him down a peg at best, or take him and the entire ship along with them.
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No way is CS the safest bet by any means. Edsall and Johnson have to be the safest bets IMO because they have coached and won in Div1A.

Some may see the hiring of CS as too contrived, politically correct and based on race given the other qualified candidates. "Oh he's black, Atlanta is perfect for him!" I just don't buy it. Maybe its just me though.
 
MaconGTfan said:
No way is CS the safest bet by any means. Edsall and Johnson have to be the safest bets IMO because they have coached and won in Div1A.
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I already told you why Edsall is still a potential liability. Johnson, on the other hand, isn't even a candidate.
 
GTCrew said:
I'm pretty sure 'safe' sailed when Rad fired a 'winning' coach.

If Rd pulls that $4M trigger then hires 'safe' he is clueless.

Safe would be Chan in 2008 with ultimatums and the chosen successor (say Jimbo) placed on staff (ala O'Leary on BL's staff).

This is why I don't count out Neuheisel. DRad seems impatient and very confident. Hatcher, Muschamp, Edsall could take years to decide about. You will know if the Rick decision was good in 12 months max IMHO. No problems going in another direction at that time if necessary (assuming no NCAA issues...)

IMHO he has by far the best odds of rolling in here and winning 11 in year one.
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Bingo. WHoever you hire better win 9-10 games per year, including UGA, or DRAD is toast. I think a proven offensive guy like Neuhisel offers the best odds for doing that. We already have a proven DC that would stay on. If anyone would be careful to follow the rules to the letter it would be RN- he is very smart, and knows he will be under scrutiny
 
jacket time said:
Bingo. WHoever you hire better win 9-10 games per year, including UGA, or DRAD is toast. I think a proven offensive guy like Neuhisel offers the best odds for doing that. We already have a proven DC that would stay on. If anyone would be careful to follow the rules to the letter it would be RN- he is very smart, and knows he will be under scrutiny
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I agree RN gives us the best chance of winning 9-10 games next year.
 
aeromech said:
If DRad hires a guy who goes 7-5 with a loss to UGA, why is he toast?:dunno:
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Agreed. And why can't any of the others win 9,10,11? We're talking ACCG and a Thanksgiving victory. I don't see anyone on the list that we can't expect to do that with the available talent pool.
 
jacket time said:
Bingo. WHoever you hire better win 9-10 games per year, including UGA, or DRAD is toast. I think a proven offensive guy like Neuhisel offers the best odds for doing that. We already have a proven DC that would stay on. If anyone would be careful to follow the rules to the letter it would be RN- he is very smart, and knows he will be under scrutiny
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I don't think that's true at all. Whomever D-Rad hires better show improvements over many of the things that got Chan fired, i.e. motivating players, developing a quarterback, preparing for games, not playing down to competition, beating UGA, etc. Overall record is probably far down on the list.
 
My point is that we just fired a coach with a winning record, who made a bowl appearance every year. Plus we paid him $ 4 MILLION ON THE WAY OUT! I would think DRAD would have to " shoot for the moon" to bring some guy in that has proven he can do it (has before), not someone we "hope" will do it. I don't think we can compete financially for Steve Spurrier or Urban Meyer, but Neuhisel fits the need perfectly and we could afford him. Every one else IMHO is unproven. I like Edsall, but still unproven in my mind- fair record, weak conference. Hatcher- great mind but young and unproven even at 1 AA. Everyone one else is a defensive coach- we already have a good one.
 
Ish said:
I don't think that's true at all. Whomever D-Rad hires better show improvements over many of the things that got Chan fired, i.e. motivating players, developing a quarterback, preparing for games, not playing down to competition, beating UGA, etc. Overall record is probably far down on the list.
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I think by firing a winning coach with a $ 4 million buy out, DRAD has made the statement we want to win BIG NOW!
 
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