Vegas not feeling the juice

gthog61 said:
What does that mean? All they want to do is get the money equal.
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It means just what you said. They are offering $124 for $100 to entice people to bet the over, because most will be leaning toward the under.
 
G776T said:
We have to go 2-6 against the coastal, usf, and nc State, for a wash. This isn't about misplaced optimism, this is a good bet.
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USF, Citadel, Temple, Duke. Then pick at least one out of UNC, Miami, Pitt, UVA. Losses to Clempsen, UGA, VPI, and NCST.
 
Yukonwreck said:
USF, Citadel, Temple, Duke. Then pick at least one out of UNC, Miami, Pitt, UVA. Losses to Clempsen, UGA, VPI, and NCST.
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Not sure why you have VT in that category. Them not being able to move the ball on us shouldn’t change with a new offensive scheme. Miami Pitt and UVA all have a better chance of beating us than the turkeys.

UVA is probably my pick for the Coastal this year if we don’t win it. Duke is the only team I have below VT.
 
If we even make a bowl game, to me it will be a success
 
Everyone assumes that our offense will regress as we try to fit a round peg into a square hole. They likely are correct to some degree, but I reject the notion that we will completely suck on offense this season. At the very least we should have the element of surprise since none of the current ACC coaches has seen GT run anything other than the 3-O.

Everyone likewise is discounting the improvement our defense should make now that they will take live 1 v 1 reps against a more conventional offense...and don't give me any b.s. about CPJ said our defense saw more traditional offenses via our scout team. That does not give you a quality look.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
Everyone assumes that our offense will regress as we try to fit a round peg into a square hole. They likely are correct to some degree, but I reject the notion that we will completely suck on offense this season. At the very least we should have the element of surprise since none of the current ACC coaches has seen GT run anything other than the 3-O.

Everyone likewise is discounting the improvement our defense should make now that they will take live 1 v 1 reps against a more conventional offense...and don't give me any b.s. about CPJ said our defense saw more traditional offenses via our scout team. That does not give you a quality look.
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The only issues with our offense will be everyone making freshman mental mistakes in the pass game. We have nobody on the roster who has been running routes, reading coverage, developing timing, or pass blocking at a FBS level for long enough to be consistently crisp in it. I don't think we will be a joke, but there will be some head slappers.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
The only issues with our offense will be everyone making freshman mental mistakes in the pass game. We have nobody on the roster who has been running routes, reading coverage, developing timing, or pass blocking at a FBS level for long enough to be consistently crisp in it. I don't think we will be a joke, but there will be some head slappers.
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I think we will be dangerous from about Game Eight onward.
 
This is what Vegas thinks of our conversion from the TO:
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Apparently ESPN not feeling the juice either with their rankings/projections. They have us at #82 in latest FPI rankings and finishing with a W-L of 3.7-8.3.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/teamratings/_/tab/fpi

If you click on GT you can see all the projections for each game. On the schedule, they have us as slight favorite against USF, and favored against Citadel. Every other game they have us as underdogs, and and not even just slightly. Every other game they have us at 40% or less chance of winning. That group includes Temple, UNC, Duke, etc. Talk about billboard material.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/fpi?id=59&year=2019
 
This is gonna be good. They think that if you run a high school offense, you have high school talent. If they are right, then CPJ was maybe the best offensive mind of all time to put up the numbers he did.

The question is "what elements do we have coming back?" Our offensive players have been running a more complex offense than any team on our schedule. For instance, the qb's are accustomed to making split second reads. The OL's are accustomed to moving fast and making in game changes to blocking schemes. RB's are trained to block and hit the hole hard. If you are the new OC, isn't that exactly the skills you would want to install a new offense? What is harder? Running bubble screens and slants, or the TO? What do you have to teach your players? On the OL, teach them how to hold without getting caught. Teach the qb that mastered the footwork for the TO how to catch a shotgun snap and get rid of the ball in under three seconds. Teach WR's that blocked CB's 90% of the time how to get by press coverage.

I know there are many other new techniques to be mastered, but my point is accurate. The TO was about team blocking, split second timing, execution, misdirection. Surely, an OC can take the 'offensive culture' CPJ installed and build on it. If we see an offense akin to the Gardner Webb game in '08, then we made a bad hire. For how many years have we heard for non TO offenses that the key to a good passing game is to establish the running game?

The defense is most likely another story altogether. The DL and LB are where the real work will be done. If Collins really is a great DB coach, then IMO he has the best DB talent to work with at GT since 89-91. We might get death marched ourselves. Let's hope we play a lot of bubble screeners.

Not much has been discussed about the kicking game. Are we looking at another Butker on FGs? Wells was money last year as a freshman. Kicking game cost us a couple in '17. Maybe it wins us a couple this year. Harvin is our best since Brooks. Might be our defensive MVP.

Take the over. I think our game with UVA decides the Coastal. Too bad it's in C'ville.
 
Vegas didn't get built from making a bunch of bad odds, until we prove otherwise IIWII....
 
Killick said:
This is gonna be good. They think that if you run a high school offense, you have high school talent. If they are right, then CPJ was maybe the best offensive mind of all time to put up the numbers he did.

The question is "what elements do we have coming back?" Our offensive players have been running a more complex offense than any team on our schedule. For instance, the qb's are accustomed to making split second reads. The OL's are accustomed to moving fast and making in game changes to blocking schemes. RB's are trained to block and hit the hole hard. If you are the new OC, isn't that exactly the skills you would want to install a new offense? What is harder? Running bubble screens and slants, or the TO? What do you have to teach your players? On the OL, teach them how to hold without getting caught. Teach the qb that mastered the footwork for the TO how to catch a shotgun snap and get rid of the ball in under three seconds. Teach WR's that blocked CB's 90% of the time how to get by press coverage.

I know there are many other new techniques to be mastered, but my point is accurate. The TO was about team blocking, split second timing, execution, misdirection. Surely, an OC can take the 'offensive culture' CPJ installed and build on it. If we see an offense akin to the Gardner Webb game in '08, then we made a bad hire. For how many years have we heard for non TO offenses that the key to a good passing game is to establish the running game?

The defense is most likely another story altogether. The DL and LB are where the real work will be done. If Collins really is a great DB coach, then IMO he has the best DB talent to work with at GT since 89-91. We might get death marched ourselves. Let's hope we play a lot of bubble screeners.

Not much has been discussed about the kicking game. Are we looking at another Butker on FGs? Wells was money last year as a freshman. Kicking game cost us a couple in '17. Maybe it wins us a couple this year. Harvin is our best since Brooks. Might be our defensive MVP.

Take the over. I think our game with UVA decides the Coastal. Too bad it's in C'ville.
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Phil Steele has Miami ranked #15 in his preseason Top 25 .
 
GT will likely start the season 0-2. There will be a welcome break when the Citadel comes to Atlanta. Overall, September is going to be painful.

I hope I am wrong about this projection.
 
GTBJW said:
GT will likely start the season 0-2.
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I think after being baptized by fire at Clemson, our first home game of the season, first of the CGC era, and against a USF team that we pissed a win away against last year, our guys will be extremely amped and laser focused, and should have a raucous home crowd for the beginning of a new era.
 
Need Thomas to return 2 to the house for payback.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Phil Steele has Miami ranked #15 in his preseason Top 25 .
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To be fair, they aren't changing anything but putting in a head coach that will cheat more.

They should be at least as good as they were last year. But yeah, he is smoking something if he has them 15th.
 
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