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[beej67]

This offense is predicated on the big play...

Was Navy's offense predicated on the big play?

Georgia Tech had FIVE 3-and-outs vs BC, and that's not including a 2-and-fumble and a 4-and-fumble, bringing our Craptastic Drive Count to SEVEN.

SEVEN.

That's over double the number of 3-and-outs Navy had ALL LAST YEAR, in the SAME offense.

This performance was NEVER dominating. It was great that we got the win, and I think we can get the win vs VT in similar fashion, but this was NOT dominating.

Anyone who thinks we dominated at any point last game wasn't watching, and Paul Johnson would be the first guy to tell you that.

 

[Allen Koholic]

This offense is predicated on the big play, so I don't know what beej is trying to prove.

OMG, WE DIDN'T RINKY-DINK THEM AROUND THE FIELD WITH AN 8 MINUTE DRIVE THEREFORE OUR OFFENSE SUCKS!!!

Bull****, this offense is predicated on time of possession and averaging 4-5 yards per carry. I'm happy with the big play potential that's there, and I'm happy with the outcome of the game, but we need to get better. I don't see this team beating UGA right now, and that's all that matters.

 

[WracerX]

Was Navy's offense predicated on the big play?

Georgia Tech had FIVE 3-and-outs vs BC, and that's not including a 2-and-fumble and a 4-and-fumble, bringing our Craptastic Drive Count to SEVEN.

SEVEN.

That's over double the number of 3-and-outs Navy had ALL LAST YEAR, in the SAME offense.

This performance was NEVER dominating. It was great that we got the win, and I think we can get the win vs VT in similar fashion, but this was NOT dominating.

Anyone who thinks we dominated at any point last game wasn't watching, and Paul Johnson would be the first guy to tell you that.

We aren't running it as well as Navy yet. Sure, we are hitting the big runs, but we aren't getting the little plays out of the B-Back. And that is entirely due to the interior offensive line. We are getting stuffed for no gain way to often. By the end of the year, we will turn those no gains into 3 yards. Once we start letting the system the little stuff, we'll get more opportunities to break the big plays. At that point, we will rack up yards like Navy never dreamed of doing.

 

[76tornados]

It doesn't take a genius to realize the play of the OL. I said in another thread that our open field blocking is exciting to watch. That being said our blocking off the line is hideous and someone will expose it. I also believe that this team is improving at a rate I haven't seen in quite a while. This problem can be hidden to an extent, but we have to be able to run between the tackles as well. I think our D can bring us a W next week, but the offense is definetly a work in progress. Some are getting it, but the OL hasn't yet.

 

[GTKyle]

Bull****, this offense is predicated on time of possession and averaging 4-5 yards per carry. I'm happy with the big play potential that's there, and I'm happy with the outcome of the game, but we need to get better. I don't see this team beating UGA right now, and that's all that matters.

If PJ's offense isn't predicated on the big play, then why are the scoring drives for Navy so short? No, this offense is about running, running, running until they make a mistake and making them pay for it. That's what happened a couple times Saturday.

 

[Ish]

Yeah there are big plays with this offense, but in order for it to be ultimately successful we have to see the consistent 4 and 5 yard runs.

 

[Ish]

If PJ's offense isn't predicated on the big play, then why are the scoring drives for Navy so short? No, this offense is about running, running, running until they make a mistake and making them pay for it. That's what happened a couple times Saturday.

You guys are saying the same thing, you're just not saying the same thing.

 

[00Burdell]

PJ's offense is based on getting 11-on-9 situations and on defensive anticipation.

 

[beej67]

We aren't running it as well as Navy yet. Sure, we are hitting the big runs, but we aren't getting the little plays out of the B-Back. And that is entirely due to the interior offensive line. We are getting stuffed for no gain way to often. By the end of the year, we will turn those no gains into 3 yards. Once we start letting the system the little stuff, we'll get more opportunities to break the big plays. At that point, we will rack up yards like Navy never dreamed of doing.

Translation: We are not dominant, but we will be. I agree. That's what I'm saying.

At no point did we dominate BC on Saturday. No point. Instead, we got one huge play on D (safety) followed by one huge play on O (45 yd TD pitch) and stole the game.

SEVEN WORTHLESS DRIVES ON OFFENSE DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO "DOMINATION." It's not a hard concept to grasp, guys.

 

[GTKyle]

Translation: We are not dominant, but we will be. I agree. That's what I'm saying.

At no point did we dominate BC on Saturday. No point. Instead, we got one huge play on D (safety) followed by one huge play on O (45 yd TD pitch) and stole the game.

SEVEN WORTHLESS DRIVES ON OFFENSE DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO "DOMINATION." It's not a hard concept to grasp, guys.

Who is saying we dominated?

 

[beej67]

Who is saying we dominated?

We did dominate the 4th quarter on both sides of the ball, which you either missed or don't put much stock in.

beej67:
We did not dominate them in any phase of the game except the scoreboard...
bor:
I don't agree with this at all.

We didn't "steal" anything from BC. Our D kicked their ass.

This one was the funniest:

The way we were pushing around their fatass D-linemen late in 4th quarter, we could have scored another TD, but kind ole PJ was gentleman enough to take a knee.

..especially considering how we had more 3-and-outs-or-worse vs BC this year under PJ than we did last year under Gailey. I'm not saying Gailey's a better coach, just saying it's hilarious how seven 3-and-outs-or-worse qualifies as "pushing them around" to Bungher Henry, as long as Chan's not calling the plays. If we had exactly the same offensive production front to back with our old regime, BH would be shouting for our coaches to be fired.

"Pushing them around" to Bunger Henry clearly means averaging 1.6 yards per carry between the tackles. Our first 4th quarter drive was incomplete pass, incomplete pass, incomplete pass, punt. Our scoring drive was run up the middle for 1, run up the middle for 3, scramble for a first down, pitch for 45 yards. Our closing drive was rush up the middle for 2, pass play scramble for 30, option keep outside for 6, option keep for zero, up the middle for 3, up the middle for 1, down it out, down it out.

 

[WracerX]

Translation: We are not dominant, but we will be. I agree. That's what I'm saying.

At no point did we dominate BC on Saturday. No point. Instead, we got one huge play on D (safety) followed by one huge play on O (45 yd TD pitch) and stole the game.

SEVEN WORTHLESS DRIVES ON OFFENSE DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO "DOMINATION." It's not a hard concept to grasp, guys.

I think our D did dominate in the second half. I mean BC got 60 yards in a half. We forced two of the three BC turnovers (the bad pass behind the receiver I'm putting on the BC QB and his bum leg). After thier QB tweaked his knee, I don't think they gained more than a yard or two.

We weren't dominant on O. We had some great talent make some great plays. But I think our biggest offensive improvement of the year will occur this week. Jax St wasn't good enough to point out too many of our blocking flaws. We could make some fundamental mistakes and skate by. But full game of getting hammered might make some of the linemen clean up thier technique.

On a side note, I think Nesbitt showed that BC's big linemen don't reverse direction very well. I think they are going to see a lot of misdirection plays until they prove they can stop it.

 

[floridajacket]

I'd call the first half domination too by the D. BC's stat line might have been alright, but only giving up 9 points when they recover 3 fumbles is domination to me. Our defense, especially as our LBs get more experience, will see us through the growing pains of a new offense.

 

[beej67]

If our D dominated, then their D dominated more, except for one thing - the scoreboard.

Which, is what I said in the 6th post of this thread.

 

[TechGator1066]

Stealing the game would mean getting a fluke TD in the final seconds to win. Saturday was anything but a stolen win: it was a hard earned one. Bottomline is the offense made the plays when it needed to and the defense made the stops when it needed to.

 

[wesleyd21]

All I know is that in Chan's 6th year he put up 10 points against BC.

In CPJ's 1st year he puts up 17 on a BC defense returning Toal and the other big dude who were absent in last year's game.

Come Decemeber, I highly doubt you'd want to compare the results of CPJ's first game against Georgia versus Chan's "attempt" in 02'.

 

[WracerX]

If our D dominated, then their D dominated more, except for one thing - the scoreboard.

Which, is what I said in the 6th post of this thread.

Thier defense did dominate our O. They just didn't do it when it counted. When it was 4th and 2(?) to end the game, our O made the play.

I like the call to go for it on 4th down. In college ball, you go for the kill shot.

 

[beej67]

I like the call to go for it on 4th down. In college ball, you go for the kill shot.

I agree, especially when the ball is at the other guy's 30. We probably would have went for it there if it was the 1st quarter. That it was the 4th made it a no brainer.

Stealing the game would mean getting a fluke TD in the final seconds to win.

That's what everybody's bitching about, I think, the word "steal."

Okay, thread poll, GT vs Clemson 2004. Did we "steal" the game or "earn" it?


Personally, I think even "steals" are "earned."

 

[Bunger Henry]

2 factors come into play as to why we won. First, our team was better able to cope with adversity, thanks to the leadership lessons of our coach. When the chips were down, BC lost hope and you could see the lack of confidence with which their offense executed plays in the 2nd half and particularly the 4th quarter. When we were getting stymied for 3 quarters, we kept on playing with the same level on intensity, maybe even moreso in the 2nd half and particularly the 4th quarter.

Second, our team was in much better physical condition than BC. Late in the 4th quarter, the heat and humidity started taking its toll. But whereas for 3 quarters we were unable to move their DTs, by the end of the 4th quarter, YES BEEJ, we were pushing them around like rag dolls. We could have easily scored another TD had PJ been mean-spirited enough to want to.

This game was won by being physically and mentally tougher than the other team. That was an "earned" win.

 

[Allen Koholic]

I agree, especially when the ball is at the other guy's 30. We probably would have went for it there if it was the 1st quarter. That it was the 4th made it a no brainer.

Paul Johnson is on the record about wanting to go for it as often as possible.