VT's game plan.

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BarrelORum

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Sorry fellas, I see this game not being AS bad as last year, but I think it will be much of the same.

VT is going to put a lot of pressure on our Olineman causing them to break and bend. They are going to double cover Calvin and they have the best DB's we'll play all year and the rest of their linebackers and safeties will crowd the line to contain Reggie if he runs.

Their DC Foster will look at the film this year and last and he'll see a couple of obvious things. The interior lineman on our team are weak. He'll get a lot of push of our interior lineman and they'll stunt their DLineman along the L.O.S. to counter act and frustrate our scheme blocking. Then we will kill ourselves.

Like last year and with a couple of our lineman over the last 3 games specifically you will see our players get frustrated and commit holding and illegal block penalties. VT will look to get us in 2nd and 10 or 15 situations which we have a hard time getting out of.

They'll see that our 3rd down conversion ratio is horrible and they'll put us in those situations all day and make us beat them.

Our defense will see the field so much, like last year, they'll end up giving up some points because we won't move the ball well.

I don't see us winning the Line of Scrimmage battle in this game. Like I said in another post, our line will get exposed this weekend. You will see guys getting pushed off the line, stupid concentration penalties, more than your average holding penalties, etc. etc. We have certain players who are undisciplined and will get their butts handed to them. And you will see a lot of penalties on our interior lineman. My guess is they will cause at least 5 big penalties in this game.

VT eats this stuff up. The only way I see GT being able to win this game, is if we can utilize our short passing game. If Reggie can take three step drops and dump off passes in the flats or over the middle which is not his specialty. The longer Reggie has to sit in the pocket, the more likely you are going to see our Olineman crumble and start holding. Nix needs to line up in Power I and prove a running game and mix it up with quick strike formations out of Shotgun.
 
This is our toughest game of the year in my opinion, including UGA. We have to be concerned about both sides of the ball, not just OL, after our 51-7 defeat last year. They come out with a lot of emotion and we cannot let them roll early...then we can make a game of it.

Defensively they had 5 players taken in the NFL draft last year....yet have 4 more draft picks leading the defense in DE Chris Ellis (trash talking thug), big SS Aaron Rouse, and two speed LB's Xavier Adibi and Vince Hall.

Offensively they have replaced Vick with an efficient QB in Sean Glennon...last I checked he was #9 in the US but that could have changed. They return their top 5 receivers which include Josh Morgan, Eddie Royal, and David Clowney. The key to their offense so far appear to be star TB Brandon Ore.

Scores so far:
Va Tech 38 Northeastern 0
Va Tech 35 North Carolina 10
Va Tech 36 Duke 0
Va Tech 29 Cincinnati 13
 
But we wil lalso be the toughest team they have played. Glennon hasn't seen a D like ours yet. Northeastern, UNC, Duke, and Cinci? I think we can win this ballgame, buit it'll take a lot of work. Couldn't be any worse than last year.
 
gtfan1147 said:
But we wil lalso be the toughest team they have played. Glennon hasn't seen a D like ours yet. Northeastern, UNC, Duke, and Cinci? I think we can win this ballgame, buit it'll take a lot of work. Couldn't be any worse than last year.
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Aren't you getting the feeling that based on what we have seen from our opponents this year that this game will be our toughest this year?
 
Just curious. Why is it you feel the need to post this? I don't know how we'll do against VT and believe they will probably be the best team we play this year. But just can't understand your need to tell us how much we suck.
 
Hiverdtech, I agree, for those of us that have experienced up close the conditions in Blacksburg, I can with upmost assurance say that this will be our toughest game this year.

Our players must feel like Buckner walking back into Fenway Park after the 86 Series.
 
Why so much negativity from these boards on this game? Yes, VT is good, but they're not the team they've been in the past. The combined record of the teams they've faced this year is 3-12 with all three wins coming against Div2teams - including Northeastern's 1 win. Pittsburg beat Cinncinnati worse than VT (33-15).

Some of you have already given up on the game, and it's pretty pathetic to read. We've won 3 games this year and still we can only write negatives. We have a good chance at 9 wins this year, but this will be our toughest game. We, as fans, don't have room for criticism of our team. They need support - and they deserve it.

Has anyone actually compared VT's QB with ours? They each have 3 INT's. Ball has 7 TD passes; Glennon has 6. Ball has 4 sacks; Glennon has 5. Glenon has completed only 6 passes more than Ball. Now, review the numbers realizing the teams GT and VT have played. Ball's numbers are far better.

This will be a tough game, but it is more than winnable, so it's time to stop describing every possible way we are going to lose this game.
 
NC, its up for debate and discussion. Maybe we can discuss some positive things. Lets talk about how great Calvin is... which we do a lot of. Or Nix' playcalling.Its another subject and its a valid discussion.

Quite frankly, People are not recognizing our problems with regards to our interior OLineman. My hope is by stating this, you'll start looking for it when you go to the games, and see for yourself. OLine is the hardest thing to judge and understand by average Joe fan. Its easy to critique the QB, the RB, the DBs, the WR's etc. How many Reggie Ball threads have there ever been? How many times have you asked whether or not those threads were appropriate? Seems like everyone took part of that discussion.

Last year our OLine got crushed by VT and looking back on it was the number 1 reason we got waxed that game along with a non-100% Reggie. No one is actively watching our individual OLineman during a game, they are watching where the ball is. Pick one game and watch our interior lineman.

Leading up to this game, I have seen enough evidence that they are not prepared again for this team. So don't be surprised when it happens again this year.

As much as it won't happen, I hope our interior Lineman read this post and take it as a challenge personally. But if I were them I wouldn't be wasting my time reading these boards.
 
Tell y'all what, if certain two players are not starting on the OLine this week and we see a good mixture of Newberry, Lonowski, and Dunman... I think we could easily beat VT. I think we have the backs, and the WR's to do it, and Ball is poised and playing better than Sean Jones his senior year.

That said, if you see the same OLine marched out for the VT game.... The same players that are undiscplined, commiting penalties, and tossed in our own backfield like ragdolls... you are going to see the above problems.
Vt's Dline is strong and Foster is going to attack the middle of the line because they cannot sustain blocks, and they get frustrated and get penalized. I've seen or heard it for 4 games now.
 
Thank you for countering this overwhelming pessimism

GTWannaBee said:
Why so much negativity from these boards on this game? Yes, VT is good, but they're not the team they've been in the past. The combined record of the teams they've faced this year is 3-12 with all three wins coming against Div2teams - including Northeastern's 1 win. Pittsburg beat Cinncinnati worse than VT (33-15).

Some of you have already given up on the game, and it's pretty pathetic to read. We've won 3 games this year and still we can only write negatives. We have a good chance at 9 wins this year, but this will be our toughest game. We, as fans, don't have room for criticism of our team. They need support - and they deserve it.

Has anyone actually compared VT's QB with ours? They each have 3 INT's. Ball has 7 TD passes; Glennon has 6. Ball has 4 sacks; Glennon has 5. Glenon has completed only 6 passes more than Ball. Now, review the numbers realizing the teams GT and VT have played. Ball's numbers are far better.

This will be a tough game, but it is more than winnable, so it's time to stop describing every possible way we are going to lose this game.
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Thank you!! People on this board and others and scared shitless of this game b/c they remember last year's disaster. Well let me say something: last year was last year, this year is this year. In 2004 we were blown out by scUM, but in 2005 we beat them, so I say anything can happen. VT has yet to be tested, and they have not impressed me one bit. Their QB is inexperienced and you know what our D does to inexperienced QBs. I say if we can play smart football, control time of possesion, and get the ball to CJ, we will win hands down. If we do those things our D will take care of the rest as they have yet to let us down. BTW, I will start the VPI Prediction thread following this post.
 
actually the issue we ran into last year was field position. Last year we started the ball inside our 10 all day I swear. The one time we started outside our 20, suprise , surprise, we scored a TD. We didn't have a problem driving, its just that, when are backed up deep, Chan goes into "prepare for punt" mode, not really trying to drive the ball.

This is a much different VT team. They offense is horrible. IMHO, I think Troy has a strong offensive attack than VT. They are last in the conference in T.O.P., behind even Duke and NCSt. They have yet to face an offense or defense not in the bottom 1/4 in the country.

We will shut down their offense, period and if Cinncy can gain about 300 yards on their defense, I'm not overly concerned with that either. VT will have to beat up on special teams. That's all there is to it. There is no proof they can do it any other way.
 
Good point. VPIss is very overrated, hell Cincinnati nearly beat them!!

odw said:
VT will have to beat up on special teams. That's all there is to it. There is no proof they can do it any other way.
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Exactly, the only way VPIss wins is if they play that "beamerball" shit. I hate how the media glorifies VPIss, "beamerball", and their thug players.
 
Re: Thank you for countering this overwhelming pessimism

TechGator1066 said:
Thank you!! People on this board and others and scared shitless of this game b/c they remember last year's disaster. Well let me say something: last year was last year, this year is this year. In 2004 we were blown out by scUM, but in 2005 we beat them, so I say anything can happen. VT has yet to be tested, and they have not impressed me one bit. Their QB is inexperienced and you know what our D does to inexperienced QBs. I say if we can play smart football, control time of possesion, and get the ball to CJ, we will win hands down. If we do those things our D will take care of the rest as they have yet to let us down. BTW, I will start the VPI Prediction thread following this post.
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We don't have a snowball's chance in you-know-where because we'll have that's snowball's chance, again, of our running backs gaining more than 100 yds. It will be a sad indictment of our running game when our QB is our leading rusher - by a significant margin. We'll be lucky to win 6 games this year with this rushing attack.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Why so much negativity from these boards on this game?
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Because everytime I make a positive post prior to a big game we end up laying an egg. So I'm through with it. Before every big game I'm gonna let you know exactly where and how we suck.

Also, the weakness I pointed out is for real. But it does take an entire team to win or lose not just the play from a couple of people.
 
Last year, if you gusy remember correctly, we kicked a field goal that would have cut the lead to 7-3 late in the first quarter, but it was blocked and returned for a TD. So, 7-3, goes to 14-0. Also, it wasn't their offense that killed us so bad. The blocked field goal for a TD, Reggie INT's for touchdowns, and field position is what killed us.
 
BarrelORum said:
Quite frankly, People are not recognizing our problems with regards to our interior OLineman. My hope is by stating this, you'll start looking for it when you go to the games, and see for yourself. OLine is the hardest thing to judge and understand by average Joe fan. Its easy to critique the QB, the RB, the DBs, the WR's etc. How many Reggie Ball threads have there ever been? How many times have you asked whether or not those threads were appropriate? Seems like everyone took part of that discussion....................


As much as it won't happen, I hope our interior Lineman read this post and take it as a challenge personally. But if I were them I wouldn't be wasting my time reading these boards.
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I think you have made your point about the weakest part of this team being the Oline.
Where I disagree is that all of the negative RB posts of the last 3 years are much different. That is, RB was attacked for mental errors mostly, and, the qb can be replaced by another qb. Most of those posts, if not all were an indictment on poor coaching and poor play calling.

Saying the offensive line is terrible is another thing entirely. You don't have to have a whistle around your neck to understand that if linemen are being thrown around like dolls, all the technique and scheming in the world won't make a hill of beans
difference.

I happen to agree that our offensive line gets manhandled. I agree with you on that. The problem is linemen first need to be able to beat their man physically, and that is very easy for coaches to evaluate.
I believe that we unfortunately have our very best playing and there is little to do about it for now.

I believe you want to hear everyone say how bad the line is. My vote is already in.
That said, maybe there is a way to score enough points on Saturday to win this game.
 
I'm as pessimistic as BOR on this game. Just less verbose.
 
IN a purely analytical way, I agree with BOR. I hope we win and I'm going to watch, but I wouldn't bet on us and it's because of our OL against a stout team. We don't play stout teams very well, I hope it changes however.

I will also add that if Chan goes in there to win a 10-7 game, then we will lose 42-14. We have to play to win and throw the ball downfield and hopefully Reggie will not go into his backing up game too soon.
 
I guess what I don't like is how fatalistic this thread has been. I get the point. Our OL sucks and will have trouble against the Virginia Tech's DL.

But is this weakness a decisive weakness? Even if our defense similarly dominates the green offense of the Hokies, will that not be enough to overcome our weakness at OL?

Well, all these same arguments applied against Miami and Georgia and we somehow kept those games close. Yes, I can see the problems for our offense, but I can also see how our offense did get that little bit of production against the #1 D in the nation in Miami in order to win the game.

It's not that I'm not scared shitless for this game. Trust me, after some of the losses I've seen, I've learned to emotionally prepare myself for the worst. I came into the Miami game prepared to see a similar beating to 2004 and I came into the ND game prepared to see Quinn go Utah on our secondary.

But I'm not gonna sit here and say we absolutely will lose a game against a stout defense, because that's just not true. Our defense looks to flat out dominate the Virginia Tech offense and I don't personally think it will take as much offense as people are asking for in order to win this game.
 
I am sure we will do better than last year but our O is not good enough to win the game unless they show significant improvement.
 
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