Weird Hypothetical

Another reason it may work is you could save a 100 million on a QB and use that money for stout defense
 
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ibeeballin said:
Like he was suppose to fail at Clemson
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If he hadn't relinquished play calling duties to really good assistants, Clemson would still be questionable.

Dabo is almost the perfect Bobby Bowden style CEO though.
 
gt2690b said:
Another reason it may work is you could save a 100 million on a QB and use that money for stout defense
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If you were building a program from scratch, or inherited a program which had all its money in defense, OL, and RBs, then this could work. With the way free agency works, it would probably never happen in the NFL because you'd be fired before you had enough time to implement the plan.
 
LaFlavor said:
The problem with Dabo, or Saban for that matter, going to the NFL is it negates the biggest advantage they have. Every team in the NFL is allowed to pay their players.
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Winning post!
 
beej67 said:
If he hadn't relinquished play calling duties to really good assistants, Clemson would still be questionable.

Dabo is almost the perfect Bobby Bowden style CEO though.
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To be fair to Dabo, I don't think you can give all the credit to his assistants. When Chad Morris left, Clemson just promoted 2 guys to Co-OC from within who don't have any kind of background and honestly don't do anything particularly innovative or special. Dabo has just created an incredible environment that everyone wants to be a part of and a culture that values the right things. Not only do they recruit really good players, they do it the right way and seem to have a lot of high character guys there.
 
Another reason why the Option (true option like Tech) would fail in the NFL is that if only one team would run it - then they would be an outlier and no one (offense or defense) would want to be traded their or drafted to learn a system that no other team uses. Players would revolt. At least 5 teams would have to employ the option - this way you can get traded to another team using it.
 
TO in the NFL would work



for about 5 plays before they ran out of ambulances to carry off the dead.
 
The Gus said:
Another reason why the Option (true option like Tech) would fail in the NFL is that if only one team would run it - then they would be an outlier and no one (offense or defense) would want to be traded their or drafted to learn a system that no other team uses. Players would revolt. At least 5 teams would have to employ the option - this way you can get traded to another team using it.
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Close.

Real reason: The players would whine about playing both for it and against it.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
To make a very long story short, Saban didn't like the NFL because the power structure of it simply didn't allow him to wield the level of control he needs to work his system, the personality issues aside (and those did definitely matter). Not to mention "recruiting" is quite a different monster at that level. Dabo is obviously a much more collaborative leader than Saban was, but I don't know that he'd encounter too much more success, especially in an organization that is plagued from positions other than the head coach. I don't know that Dabo gets too much push back from boosters or AA personnel at Clemson in terms of who he recruits and starts, but he would certainly have to deal with that in the NFL from the GM and the owners, as well as guys who not only think they are all that and a bag of chips, but whose rookie / free agent contracts also state such.

IMO, the best transitions from college to the NFL these days are going to revolve around guys who have tons of raw X and O brainpower, and the ability to adapt their leadership styles to new situations. I think Dabo might be a better fit than Saban on that latter score, but how well will the "hire good coordinators" mode of X and O operation work in the NFL? And what will it really leave a head coach to do in an organization where he's more of a consultant in the management decisions than a CEO?

I certainly wouldn't look at it as a sure bet. But then again, I don't manage any NFL teams. Who knows indeed.
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Off the top of my head, I'd say Harbaugh and Carroll are the only two relatively recent college coaches who did well in the NFL. Saban and Spurrier sucked. Chan was better than both of them.

You are on to something about Saban and the parity which exists in the NFL.

I laugh when people think some Alabama teams could beat weak NFL teams. Bama would get murdered before the half.
 
The ööööing read option took the NFL by storm, and it's simplistic as hell. Triple option could absolutely work, but it won't happen. I guess it's possible that a team could use it as a part of their offense, but never as the base.
 
johncu said:
To be fair to Dabo, I don't think you can give all the credit to his assistants. When Chad Morris left, Clemson just promoted 2 guys to Co-OC from within who don't have any kind of background and honestly don't do anything particularly innovative or special. Dabo has just created an incredible environment that everyone wants to be a part of and a culture that values the right things. Not only do they recruit really good players, they do it the right way and seem to have a lot of high character guys there.
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Dabo is a used car salesman. He's good at selling shit. Not so good at football. When he had the epiphany that he needed to focus on his strengths and let other people do the whole football part, Clemson was catapulted into the stratosphere.
 
johncu said:
The ööööing read option took the NFL by storm, and it's simplistic as hell. Triple option could absolutely work, but it won't happen. I guess it's possible that a team could use it as a part of their offense, but never as the base.
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They could only do it with an alternate QB.

You can't just install the TO into a typical NFL team because they have so much money poured into their QB position.
 
beej67 said:
They could only do it with an alternate QB.

You can't just install the TO into a typical NFL team because they have so much money poured into their QB position.
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That's exactly what a team like the Ravens should be doing right now. They're giving Lamar Jackson some time every game, but they aren't really developing a package for him to be successful. He'll never be a successful NFL QB if he's running the same offense as everyone else, but he could be a ööööing monster if someone built an offense or even a package around him.
 
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