ParkinJacket
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Huh. That doesn't seem to jive with what Richt was saying during his campaigning for a higher BCs spot, when he was bragging about being the hottest team in the country. I guess he wanted to devalue the Tennessee and South Carolina games.
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There's a clear difference though. This may be a real shocker to some of you, but Clough doesn't care more about football than he does academics.
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There's a clear difference though. This may be a real shocker to some of you, but Clough doesn't care more about football than he does academics.
What about a president publicly stating he thinks their should be a playoff, and publicly supporting his athletic programs makes you think Adams puts athletics ABOVE academics?
A GOOD president puts them equal. Money donations for the school have been shown to be proportional to the football teams success, making it THAT much more important for a good president to ensure the health of THAT program.
hey are both areas of responsibility of a president. A president isn't purely there to hobnob with the big money donors and worry solely about the academic status. Last I checked the AD reported to the President. Last I checked the GTAA was in such financial trouble, Rad is trying to rescue it. Last I checked, Clough had no damn clue what was going on as Braine screwed it up, and that lack of care and oversight is exactly why our programs are where they are. It starts at the top. It ALL falls under Wayne's umbrella. We got lucky braine retired, wayne would have never fired him.
That is like saying a football coach should only care about football, and not the academic status of his players. BS. They should care about both equally, just as a president should. If a head football coach had 10 players fail a year, guess what by year two or three he would be gone. Just as a president should if repeated athletic failures occur (lets see GT's first ever probation under clough due to HIS academic misses and oversight, flunkgate, hiring of gailey lol)
And oh by the way, UGA's academic success under Adams is as about as good as it gets for a large state school. Both GT and UGA admit SA's well below their school avgs' we both sacrifice the academic purity of the schools for athletes so I don't want to hear "ya but" tech this and tech that. Please. I went and graduated from there, I saw the slack ass SA's we had under oleary, not doing crap and getting pushed through school. Wonder why we had flunkgate when George left?
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Actually, 33, I think that that is a myth and has been fairly well disproven.
"The most forceful conclusion that can be drawn about the indirect effects of athletic success is that they are small at best when viewed from the perspective of any individual institution. Alumni donations and applications for admission sometimes rise in the wake of conspicuously successful seasons at a small number of institutions, but such increases are likely to be both small and transitory. More to the point, the empirical literature provides not a shred of evidence to suggest that an across-the-board cutback in spending on athletics would reduce either donations by alumni or applications by prospective students."
http://www.knightcommission.org/about/white_papers/frank_report/
Allen Koholic
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I don't know what kind of courses the basketball players are taking, but March is right in the middle of a semester, not done with classes. That being said though, it's much better timing then December, which is finals time.
It is all about money though. Which is why I'm amazed that the NCAA hasn't pushed for a tourney more. They make a killing during March Madness. An NCAA-sanctioned football 8 team tournament would make them a ton of money. And the schools themselves would get vastly less, as would a lot of bowls.
Personally, I don't mind a +1, as it wouldn't really impact anyone, save two schools. Might need to push some of the bowls earlier though.
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And therein lies the reason we don't have a playoff, and probably never will other than a 4 team playoff. Anything more than four teams would kill bowl revenue.
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While Adams' is getting criticism about proposing this issue, the fact is that even if approved it is several years away from implementation because of TV contracts. Yes, the mutts had a great season this year, but the proposal would have no near term benefit to them, which makes some of the media's criticism about the timing and nominator ring a bit hollow.
The suggestion, I think, is way over due, and given Adam's position with the NCAA, I'm glad to hear he's finally for it. If he was smart, however, he would have proposed it jointly with UF's prez, who proposed essentially the same thing last spring (which Adams' voted against).
The suggestion, I think, is way over due, and given Adam's position with the NCAA, I'm glad to hear he's finally for it. If he was smart, however, he would have proposed it jointly with UF's prez, who proposed essentially the same thing last spring (which Adams' voted against).
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GT is on the semester system, right? Classes just started again and won't complete until May?
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Exactly. Adams didn't want it last year, but now he does. He's just trying to make friends.
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Sarcasm doesn't come in well over the internet. Yeah, there is no class going on during the time a football playoff would occur, and it is midterm time leading up to and possibly during March Madness, so all this talk from University Presidents that they don't want to hurt education is BS. In reality the whole thing is about money and nothing else. Look no further than the Big X and Pac-10 vehemently opposing it because they don't want to hurt the significance of the Rose Bowl.
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My take on Playoffs.....
1. NFL has playoffs
2. NCAA Div II has play offs
3. Highschool has play offs....
EASY why not Div 1. Money! Predominantly driven by the Rose Bowl Committee<which by the way is pathetic and should not consider themselves a BCS Bowl!>
Most of us could challenge what Dr. Adams has said. Its easy. Our program is and has been headed toward the Abyss. Hopefully CPJ will stop the hemorrhaging! We need, as a fan base, better support our post season play and even travel better. No wonder why its easy for us to challenge a call for a playoff.
Remember 1990? We tied!
1. NFL has playoffs
2. NCAA Div II has play offs
3. Highschool has play offs....
EASY why not Div 1. Money! Predominantly driven by the Rose Bowl Committee<which by the way is pathetic and should not consider themselves a BCS Bowl!>
Most of us could challenge what Dr. Adams has said. Its easy. Our program is and has been headed toward the Abyss. Hopefully CPJ will stop the hemorrhaging! We need, as a fan base, better support our post season play and even travel better. No wonder why its easy for us to challenge a call for a playoff.
Remember 1990? We tied!
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Not just those, but look at every sport. MLB has em. NBA has em. NHL has em. Soccer has em. Yet we have this one division in this one sport of college athletics that relies on votes to determine who is the best...
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And the sky is falling too, right? Seriously, some Tech fans need a readjustment when it comes to the state of our football team.
Anyways, I don't object to the 8 team format because the Kennel Director wants it, or even because I don't think GT would have a good shot at winning an NC with it. I object because I think it's a bad idea. I happen to enjoy the tradition in college football, and would much rather go back to the old system, with the old bowl affiliations. I can accept a +1, or a 4 team playoff. But 8 teams... even this season you couldn't come up with 8 teams that should be considered real national title contenders.
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Someone help me understand the "money" argument. Assuming an 8-team playoff, you have 4 1st round games, 2 semifinals and a championship game for a total of 7 games vs. 5 BCS bowl games under the current system. Seven games will generate more television revenue than 5 - the networks will buy it.
Now, if you want to tell me there's reduced revenue because most fans aren't going to be able to drop everything 3 weeks IAR (actually, 2 since you'll have a month or so to plan for the 1st round game) to follow a team through the playoffs, I'll grant you that. But most of the revenue is driven by the TV contracts.
