What I am worried about

WracerX said:
1st down, toss sweep 2 yards
2nd down, toss sweep 3 yards
3rd down, Dwyer up the gut, stopped cold...but Nesbitt has the ball running free down the field...TD...called back because ACC refs blew whistle on Dwyer tackle
3rd down, Dwyer up the gut for 40 yards...play called back because ACC ref thought he maybe saw a chop block in there somewhere
3rd down, Bebe streaks up sideline, catch, TD...called back because ACC ref unsure of down
3rd down, pass to Cox running up the middle of the field...alone...TD...called back by ACC ref who though Cox was an ineligible lineman.
3rd down, Roddy gets the pitch on the 3O...turns corner...TD...play called back because ACC ref though it was an illegal forward pass...CPJ flagged for unsportsman like conduct for eating then crapping out said ACC ref
3rd down, reverse to Smith...TD...GT wins going away
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Winner winner chicken dinner.
 
Allen Koholic said:
Thursday night is the last preseason game. The real season starts and ends on November 29th.
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why? because you define the entire Tech existance on something having to do with UGA? you guys need to grow up and define the thing you want as a positive notion, not a negative one (and i dont mean positive and negative as emotional things, more like 'negative space' concept, like defining something by what it is not)

the ACC championship is more important than the UGA game. there is no comparison. one is to play in the big bowl, get a chance to play for the National Championship. the UGA game means... well, nothing really except bragging rights

maybe you have nothing in your life but wanting to brag to others (is it even worth the time to try to "prove something" to a Mutt?), but winning the ACC and going to a BCS bowl would be much more rewarding for the players, the coaches and have more influence than beating UGA on recruits, i think even the ones from GA

now, of course i realize that we wouldnt make the Natl Champ w/o doing both winning the ACC AND beating UGA, but why make UGA the end-all and be-all of the GEORGIA TECH football season? that sounds like a Mutt?!?!
 
BuzzCzar said:
why? because you define the entire Tech existance on something having to do with UGA? you guys need to grow up and define the thing you want as a positive notion, not a negative one (and i dont mean positive and negative as emotional things, more like 'negative space' concept, like defining something by what it is not)

the ACC championship is more important than the UGA game. there is no comparison. one is to play in the big bowl, get a chance to play for the National Championship. the UGA game means... well, nothing really except bragging rights

maybe you have nothing in your life but wanting to brag to others (is it even worth the time to try to "prove something" to a Mutt?), but winning the ACC and going to a BCS bowl would be much more rewarding for the players, the coaches and have more influence than beating UGA on recruits, i think even the ones from GA

now, of course i realize that we wouldnt make the Natl Champ w/o doing both winning the ACC AND beating UGA, but why make UGA the end-all and be-all of the GEORGIA TECH football season? that sounds like a Mutt?!?!
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I kind of agree with you here.

The players did say their number one goal this season is to beat UGA. The number 2 goal is to win the ACC.
 
GTFanJeff said:
I kind of agree with you here.

The players did say their number one goal this season is to beat UGA. The number 2 goal is to win the ACC.
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and i think then that the players should live up to it. i change my mind, this year (especially considering the ACC title is a long shot) i want to beat UGA. to end the streak and to make the players wish come true
 
The UGA game will still be there after the Miami game. It's time to focus on Miami.
 
If "we" were lacing 'em up and standing on the field on Thursday, I would agree with you that "we" would need to be focusing on Miami.

But we aren't, and we don't.
 
BuzzCzar said:
why? because you define the entire Tech existance on something having to do with UGA? you guys need to grow up and define the thing you want as a positive notion, not a negative one (and i dont mean positive and negative as emotional things, more like 'negative space' concept, like defining something by what it is not)

the ACC championship is more important than the UGA game. there is no comparison. one is to play in the big bowl, get a chance to play for the National Championship. the UGA game means... well, nothing really except bragging rights

maybe you have nothing in your life but wanting to brag to others (is it even worth the time to try to "prove something" to a Mutt?), but winning the ACC and going to a BCS bowl would be much more rewarding for the players, the coaches and have more influence than beating UGA on recruits, i think even the ones from GA

now, of course i realize that we wouldnt make the Natl Champ w/o doing both winning the ACC AND beating UGA, but why make UGA the end-all and be-all of the GEORGIA TECH football season? that sounds like a Mutt?!?!
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We are surrounded by Mutt fans and 4/5 of my friends are Mutt fans. That is the most important game to me.

Lets say we win the ACC but lose to UGA.

Good job Tech, but, too bad you couldnt beat UGA.

Not gonna happen.

The UGA game is #1 to me and always will be.

Speculation starts now: Alot of you guys live in the city. Because of this you are not always surrounded by UGA fans. Go outside the city and there are NO Tech fans to be found. If you are not always around them, then no, this game is not that important. Please dont respond by saying "i dont live in the city." notice where I said most.


It is not, "And if I had a son sir, I'd tell you what he'd do, he would yell 'Win the ACC!' like his daddy used to do."
 
I'm not saying that I wouldn't be happy with an ACC title. I'm not saying I wouldn't be thrilled with another national title. Those would be awesome, wonderful accomplishments for the institute. But for a national title, you're requiring we win 12 games. I'm only asking for one. If given the choice between a 13-1 season, where we win a national title but lose to UGA, or a 1-11 season, where we lose evert single game, but beat Georgia, I will take the second choice. Ever single time.

It's a matter of priorities. You want us to win and be the best team. That's admirable. But I want one thing, and one thing one. To beat those sons of bitches in Athens.
 
WracerX said:
1st down, toss sweep 2 yards
2nd down, toss sweep 3 yards
3rd down, Dwyer up the gut, stopped cold...but Nesbitt has the ball running free down the field...TD...called back because ACC refs blew whistle on Dwyer tackle
3rd down, Dwyer up the gut for 40 yards...play called back because ACC ref thought he maybe saw a chop block in there somewhere
3rd down, Bebe streaks up sideline, catch, TD...called back because ACC ref unsure of down
3rd down, pass to Cox running up the middle of the field...alone...TD...called back by ACC ref who though Cox was an ineligible lineman.
3rd down, Roddy gets the pitch on the 3O...turns corner...TD...play called back because ACC ref though it was an illegal forward pass...CPJ flagged for unsportsman like conduct for eating then crapping out said ACC ref
3rd down, reverse to Smith...TD...GT wins going away
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Excellent!
 
GoldZ said:
BuzzCzar, do u live in Idaho!?
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i live in Atlanta, and i work with several UGAggers

i actually lived in ATHENS for 4 years, and still the UGA game was not the most important to me, because it gets the TEAM NOWHERE

to me, Tech Football is about Tech Football and not my personal reason for why i am better than a UGA grad - that, to me, is an obvious fact that is truthful on its face, i dont need a football game to prove that to me

now, do i LOVE beating them, and do i WANT to beat them with a passion??? yes; but those who say that they would rather lose every game and beat UGA than win every other game but lose to UGA, i think that they are crazy!!

Bragging rights is a selfish thing, and so i put that behind something positive like going to a BCS bowl

now, it does have some effect on recruiting, but so does beating Miami, FSU, BC, Clemson, etc etc

which guys are we more likely to go after, UGA-type kids that can barely spell their own name, or kids considering real schools that also can play sports? maybe i am wrong, but i dont think so
 
BuzzCzar said:
you guys need to grow up and define the thing you want as a positive notion, not a negative one (and i dont mean positive and negative as emotional things, more like 'negative space' concept, like defining something by what it is not)
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How is a desire to beat your biggest rival a negative notion? What are you talking about?
 
GiveEmHellJackets said:
How is a desire to beat your biggest rival a negative notion? What are you talking about?
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As I understand what he's saying, it's that placing your entire season on UGA, as I do, is limiting what the program accomplishes. The team doesn't grow, doesn't get higher expectations, as long as we win the game after Thanksgiving, we become fat and happy. And I can understand that point of view.

Maybe I am a little crazy. Maybe I hate UGA a little bit too much. I don't think it's possible to hate them enough, but that's another thread. But to me, every game before Thanksgiving is a warm up, a tuning for what is to come. Winning an ACC title is nice, it's something to paint on the side of the stadium. Winning a national title is really nice, but it's still something for the media to yell about on sports talk radio and for us to paint on the sign by the interstate. But beating Georgia is for me. Beating Georgia cannot be quantified, it can't be defined in any other context then a victory over evil. It's the reason that college sports is pure, rather then the soulless conglomerate that is professional sports. It's a game that matters only in our hearts.
 
Allen Koholic said:
As I understand what he's saying, it's that placing your entire season on UGA, as I do, is limiting what the program accomplishes. The team doesn't grow, doesn't get higher expectations, as long as we win the game after Thanksgiving, we become fat and happy. And I can understand that point of view.
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So he's saying that wanting to beat UGA really badly will somehow cost us a championship? That's about the stupidest idea I have ever encountered on this forum, and that's saying something. (And if that was the case, we should have NEVER gotten rid of Chan.)

And what does any of this have to do with positive versus negative notions?

I can't believe I am on a Tech forum and I feel the need to say this, but apparently that's what it's come down to: Beating Georgia is not a negative notion.:biggthumpup:
 
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GiveEmHellJackets said:
So he's saying that wanting to beat UGA really badly will somehow cost us a championship? That's about the stupidest idea I have ever encountered on this forum, and that's saying something. (And if that was the case, we should have NEVER gotten rid of Chan.)

And what does any of this have to do with positive versus negative notions?

I can't believe I am on a Tech forum and I feel the need to say this, but apparently that's what it's come down to: Beating Georgia is not a negative notion.:biggthumpup:
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as i mentioned in a previous post, i do not mean negative and positive in the typical use sense. what i mean is that defining something in negative terms is telling someone what it is NOT rather than what it IS.

you guys that define Tech football by what happens with UGA are basing the entire Tech football program on what is NOT GT, namely UGA. if you do not understand that, then maybe you shouldnt try to...

those that do, maybe you realize that Tech football would exist even if UGA shuttered its doors.

OF COURSE we want to beat them in the worst way, but DO NOT let UGA DEFINE what TECH football is

i guess that is as clear as i can say it. if you dont get it, you need to read or go learn something until you understand what i mean -- if you care that is
 
BuzzCzar said:
as i mentioned in a previous post, i do not mean negative and positive in the typical use sense. what i mean is that defining something in negative terms is telling someone what it is NOT rather than what it IS.

you guys that define Tech football by what happens with UGA are basing the entire Tech football program on what is NOT GT, namely UGA. if you do not understand that, then maybe you shouldnt try to...

those that do, maybe you realize that Tech football would exist even if UGA shuttered its doors.

OF COURSE we want to beat them in the worst way, but DO NOT let UGA DEFINE what TECH football is

i guess that is as clear as i can say it. if you dont get it, you need to read or go learn something until you understand what i mean -- if you care that is
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The simple fact of the matter is that in our current system, a successful season goes through uga nine times out of ten.

A national championship will NEVER be won by Tech with a loss to uga. Period. Unless the ACC mans up in a major way, or we go to a playoff, it just won't happen. We don't get the benefit of the doubt that the SEC and the Big 12 this year get. Not to mention the fact that it's so late in the year, you don't have time to potentially make it up.

I agree that Allen Koholic's sentiments regarding the game are on the extreme end of the spectrum, but that game is still huge. Rivalry games matter in college football. Don't try to fool yourself otherwise. Coaches are fired over them. Programs are defined somewhat by them (not nearly as much as championships, but they are definitely important). To me, an ACC Championship season that includes a loss to uga is hollow. I'm excited that we won the league, but the disappointment from the loss will taint the season. You may not feel the same, but a majority of the fan base will most likely agree with me. The same can be said about any program in the NATION with a major rival. Ohio State-Michigan, USC-ND, Alabama-Auburn, anyone.
 
kevinw33 said:
We are surrounded by Mutt fans and 4/5 of my friends are Mutt fans. That is the most important game to me.

Lets say we win the ACC but lose to UGA.

Good job Tech, but, too bad you couldnt beat UGA.

Not gonna happen.

The UGA game is #1 to me and always will be.

Speculation starts now: Alot of you guys live in the city. Because of this you are not always surrounded by UGA fans. Go outside the city and there are NO Tech fans to be found. If you are not always around them, then no, this game is not that important. Please dont respond by saying "i dont live in the city." notice where I said most.


It is not, "And if I had a son sir, I'd tell you what he'd do, he would yell 'Win the ACC!' like his daddy used to do."
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The first 4 words I learned as a child were "To Hell with Ga" The last 4 words as I breathe my last will be the same. My father graduated from the Institute in 1950 with a degree in textile engineering. I was 9 years old before I found out the national anthem was not Ramblin Wreck from Georgia Tech. Get the picture? Those mutts were trailer trash then and have only gotten worse.
 
GTSaxophone said:
The simple fact of the matter is that in our current system, a successful season goes through uga nine times out of ten.

A national championship will NEVER be won by Tech with a loss to uga. Period. Unless the ACC mans up in a major way, or we go to a playoff, it just won't happen. We don't get the benefit of the doubt that the SEC and the Big 12 this year get. Not to mention the fact that it's so late in the year, you don't have time to potentially make it up.

I agree that Allen Koholic's sentiments regarding the game are on the extreme end of the spectrum, but that game is still huge. Rivalry games matter in college football. Don't try to fool yourself otherwise. Coaches are fired over them. Programs are defined somewhat by them (not nearly as much as championships, but they are definitely important). To me, an ACC Championship season that includes a loss to uga is hollow. I'm excited that we won the league, but the disappointment from the loss will taint the season. You may not feel the same, but a majority of the fan base will most likely agree with me. The same can be said about any program in the NATION with a major rival. Ohio State-Michigan, USC-ND, Alabama-Auburn, anyone.
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i wouldnt say an ACC Championship year would be tainted by a loss, i would say diminished

then, i would be happy that the Jackets are playing in a BCS bowl with the chance to redeem themselves on the national stage

say we beat UGA and then lose to Fresno St in the Silicon Valley Bowl, how does that make you feel?

HELL YES BEAT THE CRAP oUT OF UGA! THWG!! and all of that... but...all i am saying is that there is more to Tech football the the one game against the one team
 
BuzzCzar said:
as i mentioned in a previous post, i do not mean negative and positive in the typical use sense. what i mean is that defining something in negative terms is telling someone what it is NOT rather than what it IS. you guys that define Tech football by what happens with UGA are basing the entire Tech football program on what is NOT GT, namely UGA. if you do not understand that, then maybe you shouldnt try to...
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Uhhhhh..... okay..... let me try..... I should not define Tech football by anything other than what Tech IS. Hmmmm. I guess it doesn't matter if we beat Miami on Thursday because that would be defining success based on Miami, which is what Tech IS NOT. Okay then...... But I can still be happy about the Clemson and FSU wins, right? OOPS! There I go again! Defining Tech football based on what is NOT Tech. Okay, let me try again. What matters IS Tech and only Tech, so I shouldn't worry about non-Tech games. Well, wait a minute, but don't I want VT and UVA and UNC to all lose one more game? GASP! A NEGATIVE! Something that's NOT TECH that I care about and might use to define Tech success! Geez, I guess I'll have to stop watching games and start watching practice, in which everything IS Tech and nothing is NOT Tech.

Admit it; what you're saying makes little sense. No team cannot succeed without some OTHER team to beat. UGA is the team with which we have the most heated rivalry. Therefore, success IS in large part defined by beating them. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's one of the greatest things about being a sports fan. Furthermore, the concept of rooting only FOR one team but AGAINST no other team is silly.

BuzzCzar said:
OF COURSE we want to beat them in the worst way, but DO NOT let UGA DEFINE what TECH football is
i guess that is as clear as i can say it. if you dont get it, you need to read or go learn something until you understand what i mean -- if you care that is
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Typical arrogant crap. Kids like you are so clueless. (At least I hope and pray for your sake that you are just a kid.) Someone disagrees with you and you suggest they cannot read and need to "go learn something." Of course, this makes sense given your claim earlier on this thread that you are "better" than any UGA grad and that it is "obvious" and "truthful on its face," which is just silly and makes you look like a fool. As if no smart or worthy person ever went to UGA. As if no bad people ever went to Tech. Seems to me that you're the one obsessed with hating UGA and feeling superior. All I want to do is beat their asses in football but you'd never catch me contending that I am "better" than all UGA grads, because that's just pompous and stupid. People like you are why our fan base is often perceived as a bunch of elitists. Maybe you should work on your positivity rather than deluding yourself with this stupid idea that you are automatically a better person than anyone who went to UGA. And tell me, Mr. Positive, why would you define yourself based on being better than some group of people?

Yeah, I'll save you the trouble. I'm just a dumb flamer and I can't read or think or understand what you say. I probably even made a grammar mistake or misspelled something. Yeah, good points.....;)
 
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