What would it take?

Gotta make it into a bowl game to get me back to drinking the juice.

With the lines needing overhauling, I knew it would take 4-5 seasons to really turn the corner and have established lines to prop up a sound program. But losing to NIU is inexcusable. Maybe Collins doesn’t want to admit that because it’s not a good look optically, and his program is fundamentally built on optics to sell a vision to talented kids to come play here, but at this point we need to win some football games to atone. Don’t know if the team has what it takes to do it, but that’s where we’re at for the year.
 
As one who has never been on the Coach Waffle House train, this really isn't the thread for me. I will always be on the Tech train though, no matter what happens. I also only predicted a 4-win season. Still, at this point, my attitude will improve with any ONE of the following:

Exceed the 4-win total.

Stop the stupid Money Down crap before the third game.

Beat UGA(g)
 
clapper said:
As one who has never been on the Coach Waffle House train, this really isn't the thread for me. I will always be on the Tech train though, no matter what happens. I also only predicted a 4-win season. Still, at this point, my attitude will improve with any ONE of the following:

Exceed the 4-win total.

Stop the stupid Money Down crap before the third game.

Beat UGA(g)
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I respect all the points and perspectives in this post, but I don't get all the extreme hate for money down. It's lame as öööö, I get that, but I don't get why it makes so many of our fans so extremely butthurt.
 
i was looking for 6 wins preseason. So 5 more would be fine for me. I think we have a lot of growing up to do in order to get that done. I don't really have confidence it will happen but I'm here for it.
 
I imagine most coaches are salivating at playing us. They know what we’re doing before we do.
 
MidnightJacket said:
I respect all the points and perspectives in this post, but I don't get all the extreme hate for money down. It's lame as öööö, I get that, but I don't get why it makes so many of our fans so extremely butthurt.
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To me, the “money down” is cheesy/tacky that might be dreamed up by a high school team. As a result, it comes off as if they don’t take 3rd down seriously.
 
MidnightJacket said:
I respect all the points and perspectives in this post, but I don't get all the extreme hate for money down. It's lame as öööö, I get that, but I don't get why it makes so many of our fans so extremely butthurt.
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Money Down is too over-the-top.

If you have the D to make 3rd down into an actual "Money Down", that would be one thing. Not being able to deliver makes over hyping the down that much worse.

In other words, it should be used sparingly and when we do, we damn well better have the horses and a play to stop them.


On a separate note, not having the less in-your-face 3rd Down Chords removes our ability to bring some of our home atmosphere to away games. The GTAA almost always sends at least a portion of the band to away games and it is great to hear our band at an away game on a 3rd down.
 
ClydeBrick said:
Money Down is too over-the-top.

If you have the D to make 3rd down into an actual "Money Down", that would be one thing. Not being able to deliver makes over hyping the down that much worse.

In other words, it should be used sparingly and when we do, we damn well better have the horses and a play to stop them.


On a separate note, not having the less in-your-face 3rd Down Chords removes our ability to bring some of our home atmosphere to away games. The GTAA almost always sends at least a portion of the band to away games and it is great to hear our band at an away game on a 3rd down.
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Losing 3rd down chords hurts, best response to this question I've seen.
 
BranMart said:
Cause it is ööööing dumb.
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The question isn't "is it dumb". It's obviously dumb. The question is, why are fans butthurt about it? There's plenty of other dumb, cheesy chants across college football that dumbasses embrace. Just look at the SEC west with all the rammer jammer rhymes that their dumbasses collectively jargon off. I'd be embarrassed wearing a GT shirt around another GT fan saying dumb öööö like that.

Money down is dumb, but I don't hold it as a point of contention for keeping the coach.
 
CiraldoForever said:
Unfortunately, Geoff Collins has convinced me beyond any doubt whatsoever that he will never be a good football coach.

He will be the winning coach this Saturday and one or two more times this year, because we play some very weak competition. But, he won't ever put a fundamentally sound team on the field.

But, to rise in my estimation, here are some things he could do without even having to be a decent coach:

1 - Be honest. Quit standing in the rain and telling us it's sunny.

2 - Show that he at least knows enough about football to see this is a fundamentally unsound team.

3 - Take responsibility.

4 - Hold himself, his coordinators, his coaches, his support staff, and his players accountable.

5 - Replace his coordinators.

6- Let somebody else be in charge of game day decision making.

7 - Represent Tech the way Tech deserves to be represented.

Doing these things will not make him a good football coach. That's a gift he was not given. But, doing these things will help him and the people around him. I think these things are the most we can hope for from Collins, and the very least we should tolerate between now and when he's replaced.
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Then the inference is that Stansbury is as bad as the hiring AD as Collins has shown himself to be as a head coach?
 
MidnightJacket said:
The question is, why are fans butthurt about it?
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Our team was 105th in the nation in opponent conversion rate two years ago and 108th last year. Frankly, screaming Money Down and holding up signs seems to embolden the opposition more than it inspires our defense. I think I mentioned it a while back in another thread. I was talking to a friend who was at UF when Collins was there and asked him what he thought about our coach. His first comment was, "Is he still doing that stupid Money Down thing?".

And another thing, last year they were holding up signs behind our people signaling in plays from the sidelines. This year it looks like a bedsheet. WTF? You're facing the other team. Everyone has microphones. Do the think the coaches box is going to steal the signals? Backwards? When they can't even see the entire progression? Sometimes you just have to shake your head and say, "Bless their hearts".
 
GTWannaBee said:
Clearly the juice train has derailed. No one is arguing that. No one is happy with the season so far. The question becomes, what would Collins need to do to get you back on the juice train? Since we're all just pulling hypotheticals out of the deepest darkest holes of each other's moms, anything goes - other than Collins being fired or resigning.
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FHstinger was never on it.

Gooff Collins is a joke. 0-12.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Clearly the juice train has derailed. No one is arguing that. No one is happy with the season so far. The question becomes, what would Collins need to do to get you back on the juice train? Since we're all just pulling hypotheticals out of the deepest darkest holes of each other's moms, anything goes - other than Collins being fired or resigning.
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I’m not expecting wins against superior talent.
But please call an entire game without obvious clock mismanagement, put together a series of balanced offensive drives that look like you actually watched and understood some film that week, and maybe, just maybe make a few tackles…
 
MidnightJacket said:
The question isn't "is it dumb". It's obviously dumb. The question is, why are fans butthurt about it? There's plenty of other dumb, cheesy chants across college football that dumbasses embrace. Just look at the SEC west with all the rammer jammer rhymes that their dumbasses collectively jargon off. I'd be embarrassed wearing a GT shirt around another GT fan saying dumb öööö like that.

Money down is dumb, but I don't hold it as a point of contention for keeping the coach.
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But how does a chant compare to BLARING it over the PA system? Of course it'a dumb but more than that it's embarrassing. Also, we have such a hard time stopping teams on third down which makes it even MORE embarrassing. I hate it mostly because it is just bad juju.
 
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