What's with this proposal from the AT group?

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What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Hearing rumors that they are going to limit tickets to 4 for AT members? What's the status of this?

I promise you, (and I'm sure I'm not alone), Georgia Tech will lose many loyal fans who frequent Bobby Dodd Stadium if they screw around and make groups split up. If my party of 9 that have been in the upper west since 1991 are scattered, then I'll simply learn to enjoy games from the comfort of my living room.

You would think with an additional 10,000 seats needing to be filled, the brains over the AT fund would be interested in filling those spaces with Tech fans. Instead, it appears the philosophy might now be to piss off Tech fans and see if we can't make the stadium different colors this season beginning with a sea of BLUE and ORANGE.

As I said, I'm just one person but you can best believe this proposal (if indeed true) is going to be a dagger to the heart of the program if passed.

I'd appreciate somebody responding with the facts of what is going on. I got an email saying this news item is over on the HIVE but our office computer's have a system that disallows us from accessing that website. Maybe somebody can copy and paste here for me to see exactly what's stated over there. I'd greatly appreciate it.

Good day.
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Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

My second-hand understanding of the situation is this:

Since the mid-1980s, there have been limits to the number of tickets you can purchase based on the number of A-T points you have. These limits have not been enforced strictly by the GTAA in the past, but the plan is to enforce them more strictly now.

The best way to explain the limits is to give an example. Let's say you have less than 300 A-T points. You can buy up to 4 tickets using your priority to pick your seating location. You can buy more tickets if you like, but your choice of location will be worse, as the seating selection order for those tickets will be determined as if you had 0 points. So you have two choices -- get the 4 in a priority location and the others in the worse location, or get all of your tickets in the worse location.

If they start enforcing this strictly, IMO they are making a mistake. The privilege of buying more than 4 tickets is extended to too few people (>300 points). This will hurt younger alumni with large families, and small groups that want to stay together. With about 14,000 extra seats to fill this year, I would not to anything to restrict demand if I were the GTAA.

Fortunately for us, none of this is 100% official yet. The A-T fund has been sending people out to talk with a cross-section of alumni and soliciting feedback on this plan.

My advice to anyone who does not think this is a good idea would be to e-mail Dave Braine and/or Jack Thompson and/or Jim Hall and suggest alternatives. A couple of alternatives I like are raising the limits 50% across the board or lowering the number of points needed to buy more than 4 tickets to 75.

And don't panic. I cannot seriously believe that these limits will be enforced as is. At least not for very long.
 
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Well...as someone who cannot get even a single
seat at my donation level for the past three
years I have no problem with them enforcing the
documented limits.

If they hadn't oversold those seats to people
above me, I wouldn't be sitting in sub $250 seats
despite an annual $500 donation.

Does your "party of 9" ride the coat tails of one
donor? There are other donors who have been
purchasing the right to those tickets and
its about time they were made available!

Ideally...they'd allow for 6 tickets to be purchased
and would lower the cutoff from 300 points to
something more reasonable.

Still...It annoys me that people are getting upset
over this when many of us have been victims of the
overselling for years.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

I see nothing wrong with allowing those who have been buying season tickets for years, through thick and thin and losing and winning the ability to buy as many and for whom ever they choose...
Why should groups be broken up so bankrolled, bandwagon jumpers and fair weather fans can get the 'select' seats??? Seems like a rather sleazy and 'used car-salesman' technique...
Why should these seats become 'available'??? Where were your purchases ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years ago???
My family lived on the west coast for 20 years. We were never able to attend any TECH functions but continued to purchase seasons tickets and contribute to all the various athletic and scholastic funds and *gasp* bought seasons tickets in a group with another alumni who lives in Atlanta... there were years 2002 included when we couldn't give but 2 or three of our 10 total tickets away each game so in essense we paid year after year for the RIGHT now that we've returned to Atlanta to sit in our group. As for the reason why we bought through another alum... simple, why should the tickets have been mailed to San Francisco when the primary ticket users were all in this area in Atlanta???
I can appreciate that many want to get seats at certain levels and in certain places but to just take the privilege that was earned away from those that have stuck it out is 1) Socialistic and 2) Just low class...
If this system is altered then we may as well do away with the entire points system. Where is the reward for 'keeping the faith'??? What incentive would there be to donate if each year the big ticket cash guys could just show up and pay for the top seats???
As it is our group is holding our collective breathe because we're unsure whether we're going to recieve our seats in the same location they've been for the past 30+ years...
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

I have not purchased season tickets since my ex brother-in-law and my sister parted years ago. We purchased them together under his name. I gave him my contribution and he matched it and sent in the contribution.

I really don't know the conditions of season ticket purchases at this time, but I have a thought about the contributions,
tickets, and a question.

First, what are the criteria for purchasing tickets? Are the quantities limited? It would seem the best method is to allow a certain number of tickets purchased according to the amount of the donation.

For instance, $300.00 donation would allow you the right to purchase four tickets in a block. A donation of $1000.00 would allow you to have a block of eight, a block of 12 for $2000.00, a block of 16 for $10,000.00, etc. What would be the problem with this kind of arrangement?

Taking the considered quantities as only an example, wouldn't this type of arrangement be fair to most contributors?

Just curious!

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Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Originally posted by ahsoisee:
I have not purchased season tickets since my ex brother-in-law and my sister parted years ago. We purchased them together under his name. I gave him my contribution and he matched it and sent in the contribution.

I really don't know the conditions of season ticket purchases at this time, but I have a thought about the contributions,
tickets, and a question.

First, what are the criteria for purchasing tickets? Are the quantities limited? It would seem the best method is to allow a certain number of tickets purchased according to the amount of the donation.

For instance, $300.00 donation would allow you the right to purchase four tickets in a block. A donation of $1000.00 would allow you to have a block of eight, a block of 12 for $2000.00, a block of 16 for $10,000.00, etc. What would be the problem with this kind of arrangement?

Taking the considered quantities as only an example, wouldn't this type of arrangement be fair to most contributors?

Just curious!

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Not to me ahso,

Even if you slip the matre'd a $100, you are still cutting in line. I do agree, the more points you have the more tickets you should be able to purchase, but much less than you example. Perhaps a max of 8 and a min of 2?
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Originally posted by GoldZ:
Does anybody realize how 300 points ranks someone? I believe out of some 20,000+ season ticket/A-T contributors, it would be something like the top 750. Anyone who ranks in the top 2000 should be able to sit wherever they please, and buy more than 4 seats if desired. The AA will have a hard time explaining to me, why with a rank in the top 2000, I couldn't sit just about anywhere in the uppereast I chose to. The total combined seating between the 40's is way more than 2000. THWG
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">GoldZ - not agreeing or disagreeing, just a little more specific detail for you. My AT point total is right at 350 and ranking just under 1100.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Casbah...

I appreciate the oldsters and longtime ticket
buyers. But I could take offense to being put
in the same category as bandwagon jumpers and
etc.

I graduated from Tech in '94 and only as recently
as '99 became financially solvent enough to begin
donating and purchasing tickets.

Also...consider the fact that I continued to
donate my $500 yearly despite getting seats below
the $250 level in order to support Tech
and in an effort to earn better seating rights
during the reseat.

I could argue that my donations and "sacrifice"
over the past years make me as much or more of a
quality GT fan than those who have been cutting
in line and buying through a donor who allows it.

There is noone, not a single person, who doesn't
donate or buy tickets through their own account
who has a more legitimate claim in priority seats
than someone like myself who is donating
and following the published guidelines.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

What is everyone's opinion, if I understand it correctly, regarding them changing the priority list rules, so that anyone that begins contributing to the AT fund now, cuts in line ahead of even long time season ticket holders with more priority points, if these long time season ticket holders are not currently contributing to the AT?
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Originally posted by beeware:
What is everyone's opinion, if I understand it correctly, regarding them changing the priority list rules, so that anyone that begins contributing to the AT fund now, cuts in line ahead of even long time season ticket holders with more priority points, if these long time season ticket holders are not currently contributing to the AT?
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Beeware,

Hope you are wrong on this, my understanding is A-T points are just that points, not a qualifier.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

While we are at it, and I have confirmed this with Jim Hill, the 10 point alumni credit applys to anyone who has attended Tech, not just graduates. I wish there was something extra for making it to the endzone.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

As a 29 year season tix holder and did not attend GT and who as not contributed to the Tharpe Fund, I hope this doesn't leave us on the outside looking in?

GT needs all of us in those stands and I hope their seating priority committee realizes that they need to focus on doing the right thing for all fans.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

Originally posted by MsTechAnalysis:
I hope this doesn't leave us on the outside looking in?
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">MsTech,
I agree with you.

It seems to me that points should be points, no matter how and when you earned them. Allowing someone with less points to jump ahead because they have made a current contribution, even though they have less overall points, does not seem quite right.

If true, it is kind of like a finger in the eye to long time season ticket holders that have stuck with TECH through thick and thin.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

There is major speculation on this thread. My advice is to tell the GTAA your feelings on the subject. They'll listen. Give your stance.
 
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Does your "party of 9" ride the coat tails of one
donor? There are other donors who have been
purchasing the right to those tickets and
its about time they were made available!
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">To be quite honest, Crackerjacket, yes and no.

It rides on a group of 4 non-Tech men who began purchasing season tickets in the early 1980's. The father of one was in fact a Tech grad who had a hand in designing many of the buildings around the city, some of which are still visible when sitting in the upper west in SEC 205.

Throughout the years, these non-grads have "purchased" their way to over 150 points. As mentioned earlier, the other 5 of us all joined from 89' to 91'.

I certainly, and with all due respect, can understand the frustrations of ANYONE who is a Tech grad and for whatever reason might be seated outside the 25yd line to 25 yd line zone. This thread has amazed me in that I had no idea that was occuring.

And so, again with respect, I ask you this:

1. Do you believe if they allowed all Tech alumni who give a rat's arse about football and wished to purchase season tix the opportunity to sit in the 25-25 zone that it would fill Bobby Dodd? I simply don't see it.

2. Why is it that there are countless fans of the opposition seated in the upper west (and perhaps even in the upper east, I've never looked) when those seats obviously haven't been offered to those wanting season tix?

3. Does me being a non-Tech grad warrant me being seated outside the 25-25 zone if the alumni and high donors can't fill the zone themselves? I chose to be an educator and attended another college but am a life-long 34 year old diehard Jacket fan. I even bought tix, straight out of college, for the Bill Lewis years and the rebuilding years when there were more empty seats on gamedays than there were filled.

Hey, if you're a Tech grad, I certainly would be willing to give up my seat to you but by the same token, there's no damn way you can convince me that there's not a possible solution in appeasing all of us both from your side of the fence and mine!

I'm not threatening leaving Tech as a fan. I've forever loved Tech football ever since I was a lad who messed around with his dad's radio at about 8 years old and discovered Al Ciraldo on the radio while the old man painted houses. In my profession which is dominated by graduates of that school in Athens, I'm usually found wearing my Tech sweats and Tee's both in the PE gym and at athletic practices. I'm sure I've converted many individuals who've come through my classes and ball teams to become Tech fans as well. I've forever gone to Tally, UNC, Clemson, and Athens since becoming a season tix owner. (For the record, I've NEVER gotten Athens tix as we are allotted 4 and the original 4 always take those. I've found other ways to get in the stadium through fellow friends)

Just hoping you'll see some of my concerns. There's no need in splitting groups and saying "ONLY 4" and the others must purchase season tix that will allow them to sit beside the Tuba player from Roswell HS in the North end zone on band day!
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

2 BigTs,
They'll work out the seating but you continue on converting the huddled masses.I loved your story.
btw- AL had that effect on most.
 
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C'mon guys. The thing everyone seems to be missing is there is NO problem with current ticket holders.

Even A-T says we're currently executing 3 per A-T season ticket holder. Is there a problem with presenting a grandfather clause????

Hey, even I'd benefit slightly if the rule was enforced, but GT would be penalized. This rule, if enforced will not help us at all. Again, no current problem ... if concerned about a future problem with an additional 10K seats, then enforce the rule with new buyers. Geez.
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

C'mon guys. The thing everyone seems to be missing is there is NO problem with current ticket holders.
Even A-T says we're currently executing 3 per A-T season ticket holder. Is there a problem with presenting a grandfather clause????
Hey, even I'd benefit slightly if the rule was enforced, but GT would be penalized. This rule, if enforced will not help us at all. Again, no current problem ... if concerned about a future problem with an additional 10K seats, then enforce the rule with new buyers. Geez.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Aaaaaaaaaaaabbbbbb-so-lute-lyyyyyyyy!!!!!

It's ok to stick it a little bit to the newcomers, but NOT SO YOU'S COULD NOTICE!
 
Re: What\'s with this proposal from the AT group?

If this rule's enforced ...

I may be getting some extra tickets ....

not so's you could notice.
 
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