Which QB am I describing?

[beej67]

I'm simply saying that looking at both athletically I think there are very few people who would take Reggie over Josh given a choice.

How do you figure? Reggie was every bit as fast as Nesbitt, had as good an arm as Nesbitt, and IMO was more elusive than Nesbitt. And I don't think you can really differentiate their intangibles at this point either - both are very similar players.

All I'm saying is that either Nesbitt isn't that great, or Reggie wasn't that bad. Pick one. Because they play about the same.

 

[gth816f]

How do you figure? Reggie was every bit as fast as Nesbitt, had as good an arm as Nesbitt, and IMO was more elusive than Nesbitt. And I don't think you can really differentiate their intangibles at this point either - both are very similar players.

All I'm saying is that either Nesbitt isn't that great, or Reggie wasn't that bad. Pick one. Because they play about the same.

Beej, what are your thoughts on Reggie's play in the U[sic]GA games and what he said after them, specifically in that last year? Do you think that they are not the main reason so many people have such bad feelings towards him? I'm genuinely interested in knowing, because I really feel that they are pretty much the sole reason that so many people feel animosity towards him. Yes, he was inconsistent, but no one is going to deny that he had great athletic ability and led us to some great wins, despite playing crappily in a lot of other ones.

 

[BarrelORum]

beej, shut the **** up. You're on a roll for stupid ass posts. The kid has played all of 6 games in an offense he's never played in before. And you're comparing him to Reggie? Get a ****ing clue. He may not be the QB we need, but you don't know that and neither do I until we get into next season.

Half of Josh's problem is our oline can't block and that isn't helping him make reads.

 

[beej67]

beej, shut the **** up. You're on a roll for stupid ass posts. The kid has played all of 6 games in an offense he's never played in before. And you're comparing him to Reggie? Get a ****ing clue. He may not be the QB we need, but you don't know that and neither do I until we get into next season.

He may be the QB we need. As soon as he learns to make the mesh read, he'll almost assuredly be the QB we need. But to date, Reggie could do just as good a job out there.

I don't see how that's such a stretch.

You disagree that Nesbitt is fierce competitor? That he's fast? That he's a poor decision maker? That he's inaccurate?

 

[gth816f]

He may be the QB we need. As soon as he learns to make the mesh read, he'll almost assuredly be the QB we need. But to date, Reggie could do just as good a job out there.

I don't see how that's such a stretch.

You disagree that Nesbitt is fierce competitor? That he's fast? That he's a poor decision maker? That he's inaccurate?

EDIT: Just saw the redaction. Don't have nearly as big an issue with the thread now, though I do think that Nesbitt will have a great Tech career before all is said and done.

 

[jacketup]

Let me sum up two things:

1. beej67 is an idiot.

2. Reggie played, and Josh plays, behind a horrible offensive line.

 

[lonestarjacket]

How do you figure? Reggie was every bit as fast as Nesbitt, had as good an arm as Nesbitt, and IMO was more elusive than Nesbitt. And I don't think you can really differentiate their intangibles at this point either - both are very similar players.

All I'm saying is that either Nesbitt isn't that great, or Reggie wasn't that bad. Pick one. Because they play about the same.

As fast as Nesbitt? Wrong

As strong an arm as Nesbitt? Wrong again.

More elusive? Hard to tell.

As accurate? Hard to tell but I still give Nesbitt the slight nod.

As strong as Nesbitt (didn't mention that one but I will throw it in)? Waaay wrong. Reggie would go down often when Josh shrugs off a tackle.

Yeah, I am confident that given a choice of those two 9 out of 10 college coaches would take Nesbitt. And 10 out of 10 would take Nesbitt over Ball as a pro prospect (probably not at QB.)

 

[beej67]

As fast as Nesbitt? Wrong

As strong an arm as Nesbitt? Wrong again.

Dude, Reggie was really freaking fast. And he could chuck a ball 40 yards downfield on the run. Once Reggie got into space, he was gone. Do you remember his end-of-game scrambles vs Vandy, or vs UGA his junior year, or vs NC State?

He wasn't a good decision maker, but he was a competitor, and was fast.

As accurate? Hard to tell but I still give Nesbitt the slight nod.

Seen Nesbitt's completion percentage recently? It's pretty Reggie-esque.

As strong as Nesbitt (didn't mention that one but I will throw it in)? Waaay wrong. Reggie would go down often when Josh shrugs off a tackle.

Nesbitt is stronger than Ball, Ball has better juke moves than Nesbitt. I think that's a wash.

 

[aeromech]

beej, shut the **** up. You're on a roll for stupid ass posts. The kid has played all of 6 games in an offense he's never played in before. And you're comparing him to Reggie? Get a ****ing clue. He may not be the QB we need, but you don't know that and neither do I until we get into next season.

Half of Josh's problem is our oline can't block and that isn't helping him make reads.

+1, but I don't remember Reggie's offensive lines being anything to write home about either. I liked Reggie (go ahead and blast me); but he just didn't progress much over the 4 years he was here, I don't think this coaching staff will allow Josh to languish like that for 3 years. Only time will tell. On the positive, both guys are very competitive and neither suffers from a lack of effort or desire.

 

[gth816f]

+1, but I don't remember Reggie's offensive lines being anything to write home about either. I liked Reggie (go ahead and blast me); but he just didn't progress much over the 4 years he was here, I don't think this coaching staff will allow Josh to languish like that for 3 years. Only time will tell. On the positive, both guys are very competitive and neither suffers from a lack of effort or desire.

This is the key thing to remember, although he only gets three years of play including this one because we burned his RS last year(not sure how good of an idea that was, considering it didn't manage to fix his fumbling problem, but I guess Gailey wasn't too concerned with Tech's future...).

 

[H-town]

In the UVA game he really reminded me a lot of Reggie. His decision making skills were terrible, and it would be nice if he could get rid of the ball instead of taking a sack. Sounds pretty Reggie to me.

We'll see about the rest of the year though. He has some room to improve. And he can still beat UGA, although that is pretty doubtful now.

My biggest problem with this game is that it seems that we are actually getting worse. We are at the midpoint of the season, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of improvement. There aren't any new plays in the playbook that are being implemented. I guess CPJ is keeping the playbook simple until our O-line can do something more than lay on the ground. But we are at the most dificult part of the season, and I'm not so confident now.

 

[beej67]

My biggest problem with this game is that it seems that we are actually getting worse. We are at the midpoint of the season, and I'm not seeing a whole lot of improvement.

This is a concern.

We looked worse vs UVA than we did vs VT. Especially seeing how UVA is a drastically worse team than VT is.

 

[hdtvfan]

This is a concern.

We looked worse vs UVA than we did vs VT. Especially seeing how UVA is a drastically worse team than VT is.

I don't' think UVA is worse than VT at the moment. Maybe earlier, but not now.

 

[ElTechelero]

How do you figure? Reggie was every bit as fast as Nesbitt, had as good an arm as Nesbitt, and IMO was more elusive than Nesbitt. And I don't think you can really differentiate their intangibles at this point either - both are very similar players.

All I'm saying is that either Nesbitt isn't that great, or Reggie wasn't that bad. Pick one. Because they play about the same.

My opinions on this topic:
(1) Reggie is faster.
(2) Josh is more elusive, has better acceleration, and runs with more power, hands down. Who would you rather tackle? I played defense in college and I can tell you I'd much rather tackle Reggie. Josh is a ghost.
(3) Josh has a more accurate deep ball and doesn't get impatient in the pocket. He only runs when he has to run for his life.
(4) Sample size is WAY too small to make much of a comparison. All you can say right now is that these are two running QBs who have had some good games and some bad games.

This discussion seems premature to me.

 

[Ish]

Reggie Ball is absolutely, 100% not faster than Josh Nesbitt. I honestly don't know where this is coming from...maybe it's because Nesbitt is taller and looks much more fluid and smooth when he runs as opposed to Reggie, who was shorter and as a result looked like he was speedy gonzales out there. He had good speed for a running QB, but he's definitely not faster than Nesbitt.

 

[beej67]

I don't' think UVA is worse than VT at the moment. Maybe earlier, but not now.

I don't think UVA's defense is significantly better than VT's at this point, and the discussion is about our offense.

This discussion seems premature to me.

Valid point.

 

[gt23eric]

I agree with ISH. Nesbitt is faster than Ball.

 

[gtmg]

Fairly stupid comment. Josh a quiet leader who has his team's respect vs a loud mouth who many should have been playing behind Dbo on the team.

I never liked Reggie as our QB. This was a recruiting thing with Chan IMHO. He never won the job it was given to him. He and Carter were told one of them would be the starter. Neither was a D1 QB.

 

[golftango18yankeejuliet]

Reggie Ball is absolutely, 100% not faster than Josh Nesbitt. I honestly don't know where this is coming from...maybe it's because Nesbitt is taller and looks much more fluid and smooth when he runs as opposed to Reggie, who was shorter and as a result looked like he was speedy gonzales out there. He had good speed for a running QB, but he's definitely not faster than Nesbitt.

I agree that Josh is faster but I think that Reggie was a little shiftier. Arm strength to me is about even but overall strength definitely goes to Reggie. I don't even know what kind of attitude Josh has but he definitely wins that one going away.

 

[odw]

Interesting. OL looks like crap yet again, defense is dominated, only forces one punt, LBs heads are still probably spinning.

Oh I know, lets throw the QB under bus. Who cares if he was running for his life all day and wasn't able to set his feet once because he had atleast 2 guys in his face as soon as he looked down field. Yep, it must be the QBs fault.

Some of you guys don't have a clue. lol