Who actually enjoys watching this offensive style?

How do you feel about the triple option offense?

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ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
You still don't get it. The routes we run are dictated by the defense (zone vs man...press vs soft coverage). While it may seem we limit them to Go's/Fades or Digs/Curls, it's all determined by the look of the defense.

Let's try this. Tell me. What is the mystical route we're missing from our playbook's repertoire? Name it.
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Let me clarify a little...our route tree is limited b/c we just don't run it that much. Hence, Darren Waller's comments...

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But Waller says there's some truth to the idea he needs more polishing than rookies from pass-oriented college programs.

"At Tech, the passing game was really simple," he says. "It was really off play action. It wasn't about dissecting coverages or really finding holes in the defense. There are a lot of mental aspects of the game, just sitting down and being a student, that I needed to improve on. Because it's just something I didn't have to do in college."

So we're not asking our WR's to change their route based on Cover 2 or when a defense changes blitz packages pre-snap. It's block, block, block, block, block, go, block, block, block, curl, etc. At least, that's what I see when I watch the games.
 
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I love it when it works. However, even when it is working we have to throw in a different wrinkle from time to time. CPJ needs to let go of his ego and understand that our offense is stale to the players and predictable to our opponents. I wish we could run 70% triple option and 30% different looks. Use multiple receivers, empty backfields, tight formations with players that are more like a tight end. The talent is on the team, we just need to use it the right way. We have too many coaches that tow the party line for fear of getting fired. It is time to open up the offense and defense to keep the our opponents off balance.
 
I'm not sure cause I haven't done the math, but if you throw out the Clemson game (I'm not saying we should but) our rushing yards per game is probably pretty normal compared to most years. I'm thinking this year might could turn around in a hurry.
 
BuzzCzar said:
Yet we keep putting WRs into the NFL... strange..oh, maybe the NFL values blocking too
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Come to think of it, our offense has always done better when we had big tall physical receivers to block on the perimeter. We haven't seemed to have that the past year.
 
H-town said:
Let me clarify a little...our route tree is limited b/c we just don't run it that much. Hence, Darren Waller's comments...

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But Waller says there's some truth to the idea he needs more polishing than rookies from pass-oriented college programs.

"At Tech, the passing game was really simple," he says. "It was really off play action. It wasn't about dissecting coverages or really finding holes in the defense. There are a lot of mental aspects of the game, just sitting down and being a student, that I needed to improve on. Because it's just something I didn't have to do in college."

So we're not asking our WR's to change their route based on Cover 2 or when a defense changes blitz packages pre-snap. It's block, block, block, block, block, go, block, block, block, curl, etc. At least, that's what I see when I watch the games.
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Meh, what the hell does Waller know - he's just a whiner.
 
H-town said:
Let me clarify a little...our route tree is limited b/c we just don't run it that much. Hence, Darren Waller's comments...

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But Waller says there's some truth to the idea he needs more polishing than rookies from pass-oriented college programs.

"At Tech, the passing game was really simple," he says. "It was really off play action. It wasn't about dissecting coverages or really finding holes in the defense. There are a lot of mental aspects of the game, just sitting down and being a student, that I needed to improve on. Because it's just something I didn't have to do in college."

So we're not asking our WR's to change their route based on Cover 2 or when a defense changes blitz packages pre-snap. It's block, block, block, block, block, go, block, block, block, curl, etc. At least, that's what I see when I watch the games.
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There are ABSOLUTELY run and shoot option routed in our offense, where the receiver reads the coverage.

I'm less convinced we have hot routes for blitzes, and some of the other nuances.

I know we teach better blocking than almost any spread team.
 
H-town said:
Let me clarify a little...our route tree is limited b/c we just don't run it that much. Hence, Darren Waller's comments...

"
But Waller says there's some truth to the idea he needs more polishing than rookies from pass-oriented college programs.

"At Tech, the passing game was really simple," he says. "It was really off play action. It wasn't about dissecting coverages or really finding holes in the defense. There are a lot of mental aspects of the game, just sitting down and being a student, that I needed to improve on. Because it's just something I didn't have to do in college."

So we're not asking our WR's to change their route based on Cover 2 or when a defense changes blitz packages pre-snap. It's block, block, block, block, block, go, block, block, block, curl, etc. At least, that's what I see when I watch the games.
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Our passing game isn't as complex as a prostyle or air raid offense. But our routes absolutely change based on coverage. We typically have on pass a game where the qb and wr see things differently, ending with a ball thrown to nowhere or a qb scramble.

As far as I can tell we have no timing routes.
 
beej67 said:
There are ABSOLUTELY run and shoot option routed in our offense, where the receiver reads the coverage.

I'm less convinced we have hot routes for blitzes, and some of the other nuances.

I know we teach better blocking than almost any spread team.
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I think our hot routes are for the abacks. Maybe the wr on a corner blitz.
 
techdad said:
I love it when it works. However, even when it is working we have to throw in a different wrinkle from time to time. CPJ needs to let go of his ego and understand that our offense is stale to the players and predictable to our opponents. I wish we could run 70% triple option and 30% different looks. Use multiple receivers, empty backfields, tight formations with players that are more like a tight end. The talent is on the team, we just need to use it the right way. We have too many coaches that tow the party line for fear of getting fired. It is time to open up the offense and defense to keep the our opponents off balance.
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Did you happen to watch the game Saturday? Seems like you missed the no huddle and the play action short passing game. And the 7-7 that JT started the game with.
 
WracerX said:
I think our hot routes are for the abacks. Maybe the wr on a corner blitz.
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Most of our option routes are for A backs, because the slot is the one that options in most run-and-shoot schemes. I don't think we work a lot on reading blitzes and adjusting passes though - the general premise being that we keep defenses honest with the run game. Which, of course, isn't always the case.
 
It is the ONLY system that will allow us to be competitive against the teams with all the resources and advantages. We have had the best offense and 2 of the 3 best years since Bobby Dodd while running this offense. A change would be many steps back from a competitive point of view. For us to keep up, the new AD will have to give Johnson more resources to recruit better players and Assistant coaches. Benn going through this thing since 1965, seen it all. Just Saying.....:coolugh:
SkyBuzz
 
I like the TO, however the last time we really ran it was in 2012 when Tevin was QB, Vad and Justin do not run it... CPJ calls a DIve, and speed options, but we do not run the TO as much... that is why are offense is struggling..
 
The fact that other teams want a bye or cupcake before us is all the validation I need. Only other team that complains about it is Alabama, to my knowledge. Pretty good company imo.
 
There's some truth to the NFL prep aspect, but that wasn't the point of this thread. This thread was about whether it is fun to watch (my opinion is yes) and whether it works (the FACT is it does).
 
BigDanT said:
I'm not sure cause I haven't done the math, but if you throw out the Clemson game (I'm not saying we should but) our rushing yards per game is probably pretty normal compared to most years. I'm thinking this year might could turn around in a hurry.
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We've played good defensive teams this year, but the overall rushing production has been much poorer than previous years.
2016 - 227 yds/game (260 yds/game excluding Clemson)
2o15 - 256 yds/game
2014 - 342 yds/game
2013 - 299 yds/game
2012 - 311 yds/game
2011 - 317 yds/game
2010 - 323 yds/game
2009 - 295 yds/game
2008 - 273 yds/game

2008 - 2014 we averaged 309 yds/game.
 
Qtech said:
It is the ONLY system that will allow us to be competitive against the teams with all the resources and advantages. ....
SkyBuzz
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Even with the incompetent coaching of CCG, his offense managed to beat SoCal, Auburn (twice), Clemson, and UM a few times.
No this isn't an endorsement of CCG but to say this scheme is the "ONLY" system that we can win with isn't accurate.

With the right personnel, any system can work.
 
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