Kelly is our next DC

ThisIsAtlanta said:
Tubberville at the helm at Clemson would have a MNC by now in the same years as Dabo. There are probably a very small group of others who could do better than Dabo as well but most of them aren't moving. I don't think he was a terrible hire in retrospect, but let's not get carried away. The ceiling on that program is very high with immediacy.
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Oh, Hell No. Tubberville would have fired offensive and defensive coordinators a few times over to take the fall for his results, and would be looking for another position about right now. I'm not surprised he skipped town on Texas Tech--it's his standard operating principle.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Agreed. While true USC's QB was off, I think the looks and coverage by the D caused confusion and tight windows to operate in resulting in him being off moreso than wind/weather.
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We're focusing so much on the pass defense, for obvious reasons, but it's worth looking at the flip side as well - we seemed to be primarily focused on stopping the pass all afternoon (never loaded up the box), and held USC to under 100 yards rushing when they typically average 150.
 
Celeval said:
We're focusing so much on the pass defense, for obvious reasons, but it's worth looking at the flip side as well - we seemed to be primarily focused on stopping the pass all afternoon (never loaded up the box), and held USC to under 100 yards rushing when they typically average 150.
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The problem is that this is the scheme that we used for most of the season and it happened to work vs. USC. "Read and react" is not going to be a winning strategy for us going forward given our personnel.
 
scatman22 said:
The problem is that this is the scheme that we used for most of the season and it happened to work vs. USC. "Read and react" is not going to be a winning strategy for us going forward given our personnel.
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I'm almost positive we weren't runnnig 2-gap read-and-react against USC. To be honest, I think part of our success against the run was that the USC OL thought they were winning battles on the line by taking away one gap when all they were doing was opening up the gap our LBs were convering anyway.
 
AE 87 said:
I'm almost positive we weren't runnnig 2-gap read-and-react against USC. To be honest, I think part of our success against the run was that the USC OL thought they were winning battles on the line by taking away one gap when all they were doing was opening up the gap our LBs were convering anyway.
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Go back and watch the tape. We played fundamentally sound in the tackling game for sure, but we rushed 3 or 4 most of the game, got no pressure on the QB, and dropped everyone else into coverage. It worked vs. USC but we will get gashed in that scheme more times than not IMO.
 
Rushing 3 or 4 mostly and getting no pressure is not really a scheme.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
Rushing 3 or 4 mostly and getting no pressure is not really a scheme.
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Of course it is when it's done by design. That's why we were 9th in the ACC in TFL, 9th in the ACC in scoring defense, 7th in the ACC in sacks, and 10th in 3rd down defense.
 
scatman22 said:
Of course it is when it's done by design. That's why we were 9th in the ACC in TFL, 9th in the ACC in scoring defense, 7th in the ACC in sacks, and 10th in 3rd down defense.
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So wait, you actually think our intended scheme was "rush 3 or 4 mostly and get no pressure"?
 
scatman22 said:
Go back and watch the tape. We played fundamentally sound in the tackling game for sure, but we rushed 3 or 4 most of the game, got no pressure on the QB, and dropped everyone else into coverage. It worked vs. USC but we will get gashed in that scheme more times than not IMO.
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How does one game plan dictate what's going to happen in following games? As stated before CCK, said he studied the ND and saw that the most effective way to beat Wittak and limit the USC WRs was to do a max zone coverage. I'm pretty sure if he saw that blitzing the QBs was the best way to win he would have done that too.
 
scatman22 said:
Go back and watch the tape. We played fundamentally sound in the tackling game for sure, but we rushed 3 or 4 most of the game, got no pressure on the QB, and dropped everyone else into coverage. It worked vs. USC but we will get gashed in that scheme more times than not IMO.
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The announcers said we ran a very similar defensive scheme against USC to what ND did.
 
QQ.

Was our SOS tougher in the first 6 games (pre-Groh) or last 8 games (post-Groh):

First 6:
VT
Presby
UVA
Miami
MTSU
Clemson

Last 8:
BC
BYU
Maryland
UNC
Duke
ugag
FSU
USC
 
lonestarjacket said:
The simple ability to get the players to buy-in and get fired up to play is taken for granted too often.
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Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner!

You are correct, sir. The players, and apparently the other coaches, bought into CCK's plan. There is no guarantee that Tech will be able to find that same chemistry with anyone else as DC. Paper tigers don't win football games, and CCK has proven he can win. Give the man the job, and let's go sign all our 2013 commits.

With defense, this season would have been 10 wins. CCK's record as DC is 5-3, and that was starting in a deep hole with a broken shovel, with most of the fanbase trying to fill in the hole on top of him. Go hire another top-notch recruiter that coaches defense, and Tech will re-enter the national conversation.

I once again see hope for this program. The pieces are in place; it's time to execute. I am expecting 9 or 10 wins in 2013 with another trip to Charlotte. Go Jackets!
 
alpha said:
QQ.

Was our SOS tougher in the first 6 games (pre-Groh) or last 8 games (post-Groh):

First 6:
VT
Presby
UVA
Miami
MTSU
Clemson

Last 8:
BC
BYU
Maryland
UNC
Duke
ugag
FSU
USC
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Good point.

Before the season, it seemed that this schedule was front-loaded. However, I believe the last 8 were tougher than the first 6.
 
alpha said:
QQ.

Was our SOS tougher in the first 6 games (pre-Groh) or last 8 games (post-Groh):

First 6:
VT
Presby
UVA
Miami
MTSU
Clemson

Last 8:
BC
BYU
Maryland
UNC
Duke
ugag
FSU
USC
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Via Sagarin:
First 6:
VT 57
Presby 241
UVA 96
Miami 50
MTSU 89
Clemson 23
Average strength of opponent for first six opponents = 92.66666667

Last 8:
BC 117
BYU 26
Maryland 105
UNC 48
Duke 79
ugag 7
FSU 14
USC 20
Average strength of opponent for last eight opponents = 52

BYU was better than anyone in the first half other than Clemson, and there it was close. Even if you take Presbyterian out, the second half was harder. (52 vs 63).
So, yes we seemed to get better in the second half.
 
slugboy said:
Via Sagarin:
First 6:
VT57
Presby241
UVA96
Miami50
MTSU89
Clemson23
Average strength of opponent for first six opponents = 92.66666667

Last 8:
BC117
BYU26
Maryland105
UNC48
Duke79
ugag7
FSU14
USC20
Average strength of opponent for last eight opponents = 52

BYU was better than anyone in the first half other than Clemson, and there it was close. Even if you take Presbyterian out, the second half was harder. (52 vs 63).
So, yes we seemed to get better in the second half.
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You can't just do a simple average when Presby is such a huge outlier.
 
Diseqc said:
You can't just do a simple average when Presby is such a huge outlier.
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Surely, you did notice that I took them out and it was still a backloaded schedule.
Plus, we got upset in the first half of the season, and upset other teams in the back half.
 
ciegetanks said:
I say give CCK a 1 year deal. After all, it's not like our D can get much worse.
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I really have no idea if CPJ was using the bowl as an actual audition for CCK for DC, but there could be worse choices. It is certainly a very important decision by CPJ because of the failure of the previous two DC's in his tenure and we are going to need to show improvement next year if CPJ is going to have a shot at being here long term.

However, for those who had indicated earlier that we should consider Randy Shannon it looks like that option is not in play any longer as he is going to Arkansas as LB coach:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umia...ber-of-the-um-family-snagged-by-arkansas.html
 
00Burdell said:
Kelly isn't a retread. A retread is somebody who goes from one team to another but never really accomplishes anything. Besides, you have to at least be a coordinator or head coach to qualify as a retread - you have to have authority. Kelly is someone who has paid his dues as an assistant coach and may finallly 'get the call' to the big time.

I'm done with the big name outsiders who bring all their baggage and what not.
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???

"Kelly, a former defensive coordinator at three different schools, served as the Yellow Jackets' special teams coordinator in 2006 and 2007. He was instrumental in making Georgia Tech into one of the nation's best special teams units in 2007. That group went from 119th in the nation in kick return defense in 2006 to second in 2007. Under Kelly's guidance, punter Durant Brooks and place-kicker Travis Bell each earned first team All-ACC accolades. Brooks earned the prestigious Ray Guy Award in 2007 and recorded the highest career punting average in ACC history."

He's been a DC at 3 different schools. That was BoR's point. Somehow, Groh was a retread, but Kelly isn't.
 
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