Jeremi Hall Visiting USF

rain said:
.....so why the heck were we even involved with this kid? I mean, not being able to qualify at USF?...
That level of achievement should have been easy to identify a while ago.
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I'd bet most of the time, HS students are able to pull up their grades. Smart, top-notch DL are not in abundance.
 
yeah, im sure guys that cant get into USF will do "exceptionally well" at Tech. your inference at cheating is even worse

you seem to want the worst kind of behavior, and to what end? to have the guy flunk out after a few years for the sake of football? please, go be an Alabama or Georgia fan
 
If a kid's borderline, an exception makes a lot of sense. If he's not close, it doesn't do any good to throw him in the academic "deep end" when he's not ready.
 
The Champ said:
Academic exceptions have done well academically at Tech in the past. FB players get plenty of "help" once they get in.
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An exception can do well. An exception who is so bad he can barely meet the almost non-existent NCAA minimums?

You're right, he would need a lot of "help" once he got in. If that "help" is truly tutoring, he will probably still fail out because when you're talking about someone with grades hovering at NCAA minimums you're normally talking about a motivation and attitude issue, not an intelligence issue.

If that "help" is cheating, as I infer from your quotation marks, then I hope I don't have to explain why that would be a bad idea.
 
33jacket said:
if he qualified ncaa wise but not tech wise.....this is a classic example of why a potential exception system can be used. another classic example of also why we are a .500 program.
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No Shiite.

At least we get to play the holier-than-thou card.

I'm so sick of our crap program.
 
wesleyd21 said:
No Shiite.

At least we get to play the holier-than-thou card.

I'm so sick of our crap program.
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Go root for another team. GT is what it is. It ain't gonna change that for the sake of football, nor should it.

This kid was given every opportunity to earn his offer and he didn't do it. Why not try placing some responsibility where it truly belongs. That's what's wrong with young people today, they don't want to earn anything.
 
wesleyd21 said:
No Shiite.

At least we get to play the holier-than-thou card.

I'm so sick of our crap program.
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Then STFU and cheer for someone else. This kid isn't going to qualify at USF either... let that sink in for a minute before you go slit your wrists.
 
rain said:
.....so why the heck were we even involved with this kid? I mean, not being able to qualify at USF?...
That level of achievement should have been easy to identify a while ago.
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I imagine we just gave a good faith effort for a kid who happens to be the best friend of arguably our top recruit this year. I imagine the acceptance of the transfer from MD was the insurance policy for what the staff probably anticipated from the beginning.

wesleyd21 said:
No Shiite.

At least we get to play the holier-than-thou card.

I'm so sick of our crap program.
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While I share your sentiment to a certain degree, that's not what's going on in this particular case (if you believe the reports).

He's struggling to qualify for any school, not just GT.
 
I hate it for Mr. Hall and for GT; but let's not assume the guy didn't try. Some people try and just aren't good at school, that's why UGA sends so many players to Hargrave. Maybe we should debate whether GT should follow UGA's SOP and start signing guys for Hargrave, I personally vote no.
 
aeromech said:
I hate it for Mr. Hall and for GT; but let's not assume the guy didn't try. Some people try and just aren't good at school,....
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Exactly. But what I don't understand is if the kid can't even get into USF, why in the hell did our staff offer him in the first place? Surely his academic record indiacated he would never get into Tech, even as an exception. This further indicates that our recruiting policies/procedures suck and no wonder why the Hill won't grant PJ any leeway with recruits. We wasted the recruits time, and our time and money recruiting him.
 
aeromech said:
I hate it for Mr. Hall and for GT; but let's not assume the guy didn't try. Some people try and just aren't good at school, that's why UGA sends so many players to Hargrave. Maybe we should debate whether GT should follow UGA's SOP and start signing guys for Hargrave, I personally vote no.
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FWIW the service academies are pretty big users of prep schools to get kids ready for the academic and athletic rigors of the academies. So I for one don't throw out the idea that prep school is a bad thing for a school like Tech. If we have a kid who we didn't get on early enough to make sure he has the right math or is on a good trajectory I don't see a problem. To be clear I got no idea whether that would help this kid as I have no idea exactly where he is academically. Just speaking to the broader prep school issue.
 
could be the kid just doesn't have the academic talent

Heck, I could have "tried", "applied myself", etc. 24 hours a day when I was a kid and I wouldn't have had the talent to be a college lineman anywhere. I did have the talent to be a decent student.

It's not that hard envisioning someone with the opposite skill set.
 
Bogey said:
Exactly. But what I don't understand is if the kid can't even get into USF, why in the hell did our staff offer him in the first place? Surely his academic record indiacated he would never get into Tech, even as an exception. This further indicates that our recruiting policies/procedures suck and no wonder why the Hill won't grant PJ any leeway with recruits. We wasted the recruits time, and our time and money recruiting him.
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Most likely just got his SAT scores back. Not hard to make good grades at a Tri-Cities without learning anything. No way any coaching staff can predict an SAT score.
 
33jacket said:
if he qualified ncaa wise but not tech wise.....this is a classic example of why a potential exception system can be used. Another classic example of also why we are a .500 program.
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this!
 
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