Coffee is for Closers Paul!

BarrelORum said:
What exactly is the joke? I started a Commercial Construction company in the middle of 2009 in the worst building market in a century. I managed to double my business in one year. Doubled it again, and again each year of being in business. I'll do more work in the first half of this year than I did in the previous two. Would you like my resume? Because selling Atlanta and GT to a bunch of 17 year olds would be a ööööing walk in the park compared to my last 3 years.

Why do you guys treat this öööö like its sacred rocket science? It isn't. It's selling a product to a kid. Of which, we apparently suck at.
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it's amusing that the guy who is probably rudest, and most obnoxious poster on this board complains that the head coach is sarcastic during interviews and says they could do a better job of selling GT.
 
QuadF said:
it's amusing that the guy who is probably rudest, and most obnoxious poster on this board complains that the head coach is sarcastic during interviews and says they could do a better job of selling GT.
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You shoud meet me in person. I'm not only handsome but dog-on-it, people like me.
 
BarrelORum said:
You shoud meet me in person. I'm not only handsome but dog-on-it, people like me.
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If you give me more club seat tickets, I'll sell you to the board. I could do it, too, even with all your faults.
 
BarrelORum said:
You shoud meet me in person. I'm not only handsome but dog-on-it, people like me.
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:lol:

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ITT: BOR reveals he is an amazing salesman, then is unable sell anyone in the thread on his ideas. Which are free.
 
I agree with BOR and I'll add my words I think Paul Johnson is the worst salesman of GT than I can remember in my 75+ years. He could not sell hot peppers to a Mexican chief.
 
I honestly think there is a part of Johnson that doesn't believe he needs much talent because his system is so good.

And against most teams on our schedule he might be right. But then there are those 3 or 4 other games per year...
 
BarrelORum said:
I can't help it if my audience is stupid. What ideas of mine do you not buy?
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Really just the thought that everyone on our staff over the last five years has been too stupid, inexperienced, and inept to formulate the simple sales pitch you're proposing. Admittedly, it's not a bad idea, but do you have any evidence that they aren't trying it? It seems like something so obvious that it'd be any sane salesman's first thought, so in my mind you're bringing some serious charges to the doorstep of our coaching staff and AA by extension. It's pretty hard for me to imagine a recruit having to drive/fly all the way in to the dead center of the city of Atlanta and the coaches saying "see that skyline? ignore that öööö, this is a calculus book, that's all you're gonna know until you escape" or WTTE. Maybe a bit of hyperbole there, but for all the complaints we levy on our recruiting efforts, one has to eventually wonder what the mental picture is that some of us form when we hear that confounding term.

The sales-related work I've done in my short whirlwind career (contract proposal support, retailer-manufacturer-vendor supply chain integration) has been with a fortune 500 defense contractor and oddly enough the world's leading manufacturer of flooring products, which is vastly different from the kind of sales you need to do in CFB. Maybe direct retail experience is more applicable, if that is indeed the kind of sales experience you have, but in my sales world you generally don't get access to competitor bids, and detailed information about their capabilities is considered proprietary (or in some of my cases, classified / property of a foreign government). In CFB, this is clearly the very opposite case, and even if you don't believe GT suffers from it, you have to admit it changes the nature of the sales game. This isn't to say that I should be some sort of authority on the subject, just that I am familiar with sales enough not to be completely clueless.

TL;DR the problem is probably a little more complex than that.
 
The fact of the matter is if you have a sales pitch, but can't deliver it, you aren't a salesman. I've heard most of our coaches speak in person. Don't know about Pelton, but Roof is the only one who sounds convincing. PJ has a ton of charisma when he chooses. The rest of our staff sounds like incompetent desk Jockeys.
 
BarrelORum said:
Holy öööö, pay attention dumbass. Paul Johnson is a great coach. Not the issue. Paul Johnson can't recruit for öööö. That is going to be his downfall if he doesn't fix it.
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I don't think anyone disagrees with this.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
TL;DR the problem is probably a little more complex than that.
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I agree it's not an easy thing to get accomplished.

My problem is I can't imagine that our coaches are thinking outside the box when they recruit. Mainly because we don't hear about anything innovative they do to sell the program, city, etc.

It's kinda like we've said about the on-field strategery. When we've tried to beat UGA at their own game we haven't stood a chance. Why wouldn't it be the same on the recruiting trail?

I feel like GT and the city have a lot to offer in spite of the obvious drawbacks we've listed ad nauseum.
 
It would be interesting to see who is usually the recruiter for the really good guys that we land and the guys we close to landing. might give some good insight into which positions need a shakeup.
 
BarrelORum said:
What exactly is the joke? I started a Commercial Construction company in the middle of 2009 in the worst building market in a century. I managed to double my business in one year. Doubled it again, and again each year of being in business. I'll do more work in the first half of this year than I did in the previous two. Would you like my resume? Because selling Atlanta and GT to a bunch of 17 year olds would be a ööööing walk in the park compared to my last 3 years.

Why do you guys treat this öööö like its sacred rocket science? It isn't. It's selling a product to a kid. Of which, we apparently suck at.
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Not being argumentative, but aren't you assuming something? The product you're selling may be more marketable than the product the coaches are selling.
 
QuadF said:
It would be interesting to see who is usually the recruiter for the really good guys that we land and the guys we close to landing. might give some good insight into which positions need a shakeup.
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Per Rivals,

Buzz Preston: Custis, Devine, Messick

Sewak: No commits unless you count Douglas. Targets included: Trey Johnson, Jaylen Miller

Not really fair just happened to be the first two I pulled up.
 
KG01 said:
Per Rivals,

Buzz Preston: Custis, Devine, Messick

Sewak: No commits unless you count Douglas. Targets included: Trey Johnson, Jaylen Miller

Not really fair just happened to be the first two I pulled up.
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I can tell you that the lead recruiter for each player would be the one to introduce the signee at signing day. Preston had 3, Speed had 4, McCollum had 4, Bohannon had 1, Roof had 1 (Davis), and Owens had 1 IIRC.
 
daBuzz said:
Not being argumentative, but aren't you assuming something? The product you're selling may be more marketable than the product the coaches are selling.
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I don't sell a product, I sell a service that is ultimately ME. I'm also selling a service that is not in high demand and with a crap load of competition. Part of recruiting is selling yourself to 17 year olds. Again, staff does a crap job of it. How many times you hear a recruit in the last 5 years that was worth a öööö fall all over themselves talking about anyone on this staff? Typically they are talking about their experience t Tech, an engineering degree, etc. they see the entire package. No one is coming to Tech just to play for PJ.
 
BarrelORum said:
I don't sell a product, I sell a service that is ultimately ME. I'm also selling a service that is not in high demand and with a crap load of competition. Part of recruiting is selling yourself to 17 year olds. Again, staff does a crap job of it. How many times you hear a recruit in the last 5 years that was worth a öööö fall all over themselves talking about anyone on this staff? Typically they are talking about their experience t Tech, an engineering degree, etc. they see the entire package. No one is coming to Tech just to play for PJ.
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Barrel of Rain (BOR), you are such a ray of sunshine !
 
CPJ could walk over to the local Ford dealership, ask who their top salesperson was, hire him/her, and they would do better than Sewak.

Problem ööööing solved.
 
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