New FSU QB charged with battery

He punched a girl in the face again? That's like the second time in a week!
 
The news here is that he was charged. Prior to this we knew he was under investigation and we knew that he was suspended by FSU.
 
The bartender doesn't even flinch once from making drinks and taking money while this whole thing unfolded. He had a laser-like focus on not getting involved in any way.
 
I think the video sinks him - don't see how you can keep a kid when there's video out there of him assaulting a girl. Similarly to how much more attention was paid to the Ray Rice assault once the elevator video was released. It makes it a lot more real to everybody. Assuming he gets charged, I think it's a pretty safe bet we can forget about him until he resurfaces in an SEC West or UL uniform in 2017.
 
So am I the only one that saw her punch first?

Self-defense, plain and simple.
 
In his defense, she did look like she was talking... and he probably didn't want to hear her talk anymore, so what else was he to do?
 
05gtcorndog said:
the bartender doesn't even flinch once from making drinks and taking money while this whole thing unfolded. He had a laser-like focus on not getting involved in any way.
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deserves a raise
 
05GTCorndog said:
In his defense, she did look like she was talking... and he probably didn't want to hear her talk anymore, so what else was he to do?
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And again, she freakin' punched him. At this point I don't know that assault is a viable charge.
 
coit said:
So am I the only one that saw her punch first?

Self-defense, plain and simple.
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It's just one angle and no audio, but the sequence I see is:

1) They make contact that the girl is not happy with. She tells him something which I assume is "give me some space."
2) The guy pushes through anyway making more contact the girl isn't happy with.
3) The girl starts to verbally engage - looks angry.
4) The guy puts hands on her to push her away. Tough to see who made contact first with the bottom cutoff though.
5) Girl tries to shake loose. Can't. Makes a move that looks like something between an attempt to hit him and an attempt to break his hold. If I had to guess it was an attempt to hit him though.
6) He responds with a fairly brutal strike to the head.

I guess a good lawyer could make self-defense argument, but I can't see jurors looking past the fact that he's a collegiate athlete using an unreasonable amount of force against a girl who never really initiated any contact (although it appears she tried to).

But at the end of the day, there's public video of you punching a female in the head because she wasn't happy with the way you crowded her at a bar. Tough to recover from. And FSU is not going to want to deal with this after 2 years of Jameis and the risk of FSU QB becoming synonymous with woman beater/raper.
 
coit said:
And again, she freakin' punched him. At this point I don't know that assault is a viable charge.
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He had her hands restrained prior to her punching him. Someone comes in and shoves his right hand off of her left hand and then she throws the punch, probably because she's equal parts drunk and belligerent and wanting him to let her hand go. She's the one with the self defense story, if anyone involved deserves one.

In my opinion this is an old fashioned tale of "Woman does some incredibly dumb things, man does some even dumber things."
 
coit said:
And again, she freakin' punched him. At this point I don't know that assault is a viable charge.
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Still a weak woman, punching is excessive. You can leave, restrain, push off etc.
 
The order of the contact is pretty obvious once you watch it a few times. She's pushing on his right shoulder with her left hand, he moves his right arm to catch her left arm and she's restrained. When she raises her right arm either into a fist or to indicate the presence of something or someone behind her (can't tell), he grabs her right wrist with his left hand and further restrains her.
 
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