*OFFICIAL* National Signing Day Thread

I don't get it. Why is that? And does that mean we don't or can't compare to Duke, Miami, Vandy, Syracuse, WF, Boston College, etc?

We usually out-recruit all of those except Miami and now sadly Duke. All are universities which means universal curriculum and a major for literally anyone. I do wonder why the value of a GT degree seems to be a well kept secret among the general population.
 
We usually out-recruit all of those except Miami and now sadly Duke. All are universities which means universal curriculum and a major for literally anyone. I do wonder why the value of a GT degree seems to be a well kept secret among the general population.

How many of the "great" players give one öööö about a degree from anywhere? They typically are looking for a degree in football.
 
In the press conference, he talks about the numbers. He says he sometimes knows a current player is likely to leave before it becomes public. Sometimes there are players that might transfer from somewhere as a graduate student. He tells PWOs that if they look great in the Spring and are expected to play that they could get a scholarship. They are still recruiting one player for this year. All that has to be taken into consideration, but he doesn't ever want to over-recruit if there is a chance of having to cut someone.
 
Not a clue. I haven't been following too closely to recognize the names. Are the Scout guys lumping in the PWO dudes as "commits"?

Paul Johnson just said in his press conference that he's holding on to scholarships to offer to potential transfers and walk-ons who do good in the spring. Either he thinks he's got room left or he doesn't know how the 85 thing works or he's secretly got a list of people we'll cut if something better comes along. Pick your poison, they all mean we're not maximizing our recruiting.

Y'all are gonna get real tired of me. I should probably just put that in my sig next to a big cry.
 
Paul Johnson just said in his press conference that he's holding on to scholarships to offer to potential transfers and walk-ons who do good in the spring. Either he thinks he's got room left or he doesn't know how the 85 thing works or he's secretly got a list of people we'll cut if something better comes along. Pick your poison, they all mean we're not maximizing our recruiting.

Y'all are gonna get real tired of me. I should probably just put that in my sig next to a big cry.

...or he expects a player(s) to leave at some point before the fall.
 
I'm skeptical that the 19th or 20th player added to the recruiting class is going to be so great that it would be worth losing a possible senior transfer or depriving a surprise PWO of a scholarship. Regardless, it's a judgement decision as opposed to simply neglecting an available scholarship.
 
Weren't we over 85 after last year's class, and then we lost a few in the off-season (that presumably were known already by the coaching staff before it became public)? If we're at 85 now, but he was/is still holding some open for top prospects, I imagine they already know a couple scholarship spots that will be unused come fall.

Yeah we lost 2 guys, Chaz Cheeks and Thomas O'Reilly. I think they were 'excused' because they already had their degrees and weren't expected to contribute in 2015.
 
Paul Johnson just said in his press conference that he's holding on to scholarships to offer to potential transfers and walk-ons who do good in the spring. Either he thinks he's got room left or he doesn't know how the 85 thing works or he's secretly got a list of people we'll cut if something better comes along. Pick your poison, they all mean we're not maximizing our recruiting.

Y'all are gonna get real tired of me. I should probably just put that in my sig next to a big cry.

He probably knows certain folks are leaving, which explains the outstanding offers beyond hitting the 85 with our 18 signees. If he didn't hit his number to replace those known attrition guys, I'm with you.

If we're getting on him for not accounting for the unknown attrition guys, then that's dumb. You can really screw up your roster by guessing like that.
 
Paul Johnson just said in his press conference that he's holding on to scholarships to offer to potential transfers and walk-ons who do good in the spring. Either he thinks he's got room left or he doesn't know how the 85 thing works or he's secretly got a list of people we'll cut if something better comes along. Pick your poison, they all mean we're not maximizing our recruiting.

Y'all are gonna get real tired of me. I should probably just put that in my sig next to a big cry.

meh, it's not that cut and dried. He said we only have 13 scholarship seniors next year and he doesn't want to take a tiny class next year (or any year). So he's not necessarily holding on to scholarships for PWO's, but PWO's are guys that you give a scholarship to for a year, but not the next year.

I don't necessarily agree with him, especially because of our attrition rate. I say every year you max out and let the chips fall where they may next year. 13 scholarship seniors probably turns into 15-17 available scholarships due to attrition.
 
It's not a comparison, it's just a demonstration that there are lots of guys out there looking for more than just football. Stanford may not compare to us, but it also doesn't compare to USC in the same conference, or Alabama, or Texas, or any of the other untouchable programs who's recruits we're conceding we're not going to get.

Even though we're not going to end up stealing all of Stanford's recruits and getting top 15 classes, because I know that's not in the cards, we can do WAY better than this. There are more than 18 guys out there.



If a guy says Miami is his dream school, that's some smoke, don't you think? If a guy is a solid LSU commit, what's that look like to you? And if we know how to get a guy and we just won't do it, what does that make you think?

You can probably guess what it all means to me.

Really? This horse has been beating flat. Every February it has been "How can Stanford get 4* and we can't". I agree we can do a lot better, but Stanford and now Duke don't play by the same rules as we do. As far the 2 recruits, there wasn't any smoke until about a couple weeks again bc the previous regime was not interested in Finley. So that one was a hard pill to swallow. I have no explaination for Campbell
 
On Finley, Richt just wanted to remind CPJ that he was still his whipping boy. And he did.

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It's hard to compete with Stanford for a number of reasons.

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For those of you that bought into the hype that we were going to land 3 4+*s on the last week of the recruiting trail you have only yourself to blame for the let down.
 
So there's outrage that our current roster plus the NSD is only at 85? Sure, there's probably going to be attrition below that number, but there are also graduate transfers and post-NSD commits. NSD isn't the end of people who are added to the roster.

I don't know how CCG handled these things, but he never had that great of success. The 2007 class lacked any linemen and a few of the 4*'s from that class never stepped foot on any D1 field.
 
Johnson ought to have at least one kid each year bank his announcement until signing day or the day before. It would help with perception a lot to get a big recruit right at the end. It doesn't help perception when you whiff.
 
Johnson ought to have at least one kid each year bank his announcement until signing day or the day before. It would help with perception a lot to get a big recruit right at the end. It doesn't help perception when you whiff.

This requires getting a big recruit.
 
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