For those who think a new coach is the answer...

EffinDane said:
2/3s of the ACC would switch CPJ-era records with us

Two of the schools that wouldnt have won nattys
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I will always be a CPJ fan and I wish he had gotten a decent AD sooner. I just dont see 2014 or better happening again before his contract is up. Coaching changes are the norm and we have a very long tenured coach. Happens to the best of them.
 
smokey_wasp said:
I will always be a CPJ fan and I wish he had gotten a decent AD sooner. I just dont see 2014 or better happening again before his contract is up. Coaching changes are the norm and we have a very long tenured coach. Happens to the best of them.
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This is what UMd fans thought about Fridge. They even bounced him as defending ACC COY. If we part ways with CPJ, I just want a plan in place on how we improve. Not just ‘new coach’, but better recruiting, improved facilities, improved marketing, and some sort of identity. We have the last one right now, it just isn’t selling to prospects or fans.
 
WracerX said:
This is what UMd fans thought about Fridge. They even bounced him as defending ACC COY. If we part ways with CPJ, I just want a plan in place on how we improve. Not just ‘new coach’, but better recruiting, improved facilities, improved marketing, and some sort of identity. We have the last one right now, it just isn’t selling to prospects or fans.
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You think CPJ is going to be ACC COY anytime soon?
 
ee8384 said:
Using any coach in the SEC West as a comparison since Saban came to Bama is ridiculous. Someone was doing the same with Miles and LSU in another thread.
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I picked Auburn because they are Bama’s rival. I could’ve also picked FSU, who ran off a Natty winning coach.

Auburn has been and will continue to be in constant turmoil because they expect to win a Natty every year and that just isn’t going to happen.
 
ScionOfSouthland said:
Auburn won 10 games, beat Alabama, and finished top-10 last year. They went to a national title just 4 or 5 years ago. The qualms that Auburn fans have over Malzahn is that they are paying the money to be a national title contender every year and he’s shown that he’s more of an up and down coach. He was an idiot for micromanaging Lashlee and letting him run off. They have a very similar roster this year as last’s but different results. That’s what fans aren’t happy about.
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We won 10+ games, finished top-10 and was a couple of points from playoff in 2014.

Your 3rd sentence exactly makes my point. Their expectations are out of whack.
 
JackD said:
I don't understand this line of thinking at all. I've been watching tech football for about 20 years, and we've never been this bad. I think a better question is why don't you think we can do better?
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Never been this bad? Are you serious? We’ve been much worse a number of times.
 
coit said:
...explain Auburn.

Point being, it isn’t so easy to hit a home run in the coaching carousel.
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I think it's less about a new coach being the answer than it is about CPJ no longer being the answer. We're on a downward trend. It's possible another year could see improvement, but it's also possible we just fall further behind.
 
gtg970g said:
You think CPJ is going to be ACC COY anytime soon?
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Ralph had some wretched years before that good season. Md pulled the trigger anyway. Waiting cost them James Franklin and got them Randy Edsil (who turned us down).
 
coit said:
I picked Auburn because they are Bama’s rival. I could’ve also picked FSU, who ran off a Natty winning coach.

Auburn has been and will continue to be in constant turmoil because they expect to win a Natty every year and that just isn’t going to happen.
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A&M threw massive amounts of money to get Jimbo. That and having to live in the town where a former UF football player went balls deep on his wife had Jimbo looking for a move.
 
WracerX said:
... better recruiting, improved facilities, improved marketing ...
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These are things TStan is working on. They hired additional recruiting staff last year (and need to hire more). They have that initiative going to raise $125M for new facilities. I’m not sure what the marketing plan is, but I’m sure they are working on that too.

It takes time. It took Cutliffe several years to take Duke from doormat to conference title contender. Dabo needed some years to take Clemson to the next level.

Assuming TStan can keep the funds coming in, it’ll be a few years to bring GT up to where we want it to be.
 
bravejason said:
These are things TStan is working on. They hired additional recruiting staff last year (and need to hire more). They have that initiative going to raise $125M for new facilities. I’m not sure what the marketing plan is, but I’m sure they are working on that too.

It takes time. It took Cutliffe several years to take Duke from doormat to conference title contender. Dabo needed some years to take Clemson to the next level.

Assuming TStan can keep the funds coming in, it’ll be a few years to bring GT up to where we want it to be.
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Don't give me that bullshit. It's been 11 ööööing years
 
bravejason said:
These are things TStan is working on. They hired additional recruiting staff last year (and need to hire more). They have that initiative going to raise $125M for new facilities. I’m not sure what the marketing plan is, but I’m sure they are working on that too.

It takes time. It took Cutliffe several years to take Duke from doormat to conference title contender. Dabo needed some years to take Clemson to the next level.

Assuming TStan can keep the funds coming in, it’ll be a few years to bring GT up to where we want it to be.
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Those programs are far more competitive and talented now than when those coaches got there. The same is not true for us.
 
gtfan088 said:
I think it's less about a new coach being the answer than it is about CPJ no longer being the answer. We're on a downward trend. It's possible another year could see improvement, but it's also possible we just fall further behind.
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I guess you could say we are on a downward trend in the same way someone can look at temperatures being higher one year over the previous year and claim that proves global warming. We are certainly having our ups and downs, but we certainly have the capability of beating anyone with the team we have on the field now. Unfortunately, for that to happen everything has to go almost perfectly, and that just isn't happening.
 
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