Wanted: Jalen Carter

[Nehru Jacket]

Now that multiple players(not just the elite of the elite players) on the factory teams are getting large amounts of money, expensive cars, etc due to NIL, I would not be surprised to see a lot more of this kind of clusterf$&k going on around college campuses. Hopefully this incident opens peoples eyes to the danger of this uncontrolled situation. 18 to 22 year olds with free cash, powerful vehicles and no supervision is a recipe for disaster.

Yes 20 years ago there was a big problem with UGA football players and motor scooters. They are no longer tooling around on motor scooters.

 

[THWG247]

At the end of the Knox news article, it notes that UGA just posted a job for a Director of player development - Bryant Gantt’s position. Does anyone know his whereabouts? Guessing down in South America with a large sum of money so no one can ever put him under oath.

Buried in the Clark County landfill?

 

[Nehru Jacket]

If you live in jawja, that will be your tax dollars.

The state of Georgia has plenty of money in their coffers. Last year I received a check from the state because they said they had too much.

 

[THWG247]

I would imagine that the two people who survived the wreck could shed a lot of light on what happened before the wreck. Was Jalen partying with them? Drunk? Details about the race?

 

[Nehru Jacket]

I would imagine that the two people who survived the wreck could shed a lot of light on what happened before the wreck. Was Jalen partying with them? Drunk? Details about the race?

Have we established that Carter was in his vehicle alone?

 

[GoGATech]

Isn't GSP called in for every auto accident that results in a fatality? That's how I've always seen it happen here. Idk if they take over investigation or just handle the active scene, but they are always there.

 

[georgytech]

So sad. This is what UGA fans asked for with Kirby- the opposite of St. Richt. But Richt had his long list of shady characters playing for him as well. It's a culture issue in Athens.

Seems to be a " cultural" issue across a broad swath of football from high school to the pros.
How the basketball player at Bama is still on the team & playing is insane.

 

[ScionOfSouthland]

Smart’s “gee golly, Gantt heard about street racing an hour and a half away in Atlanta so we brought in campus police to teach our boys the way of the good lord” excuse is obviously bogus. This goes deeper than we know today.

Bradley - keep digging. Get Gantt’s cell phone records and his expense reports.

I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if scenarios like this are the real reason why Kirby got FOIA rules changed when he started at Georgia.

Georgia made a dumb law to protect UGA from a non-problem

www.sbnation.com

 

[Supersize that order mutt]

At least it's going national now. There was a WSJ about it earlier this week, and now a USA article about it ... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ot...r&cvid=ff553cd093bb49d791f1c90d62f160b1&ei=14

 

[Supersize that order mutt]

Another AJC article about it ---


Georgia’s Kirby Smart failing at big part of his job

Caption
Credit: Hyosub.Shin@ajc.com

MIKE CHECK BLOG
By Michael Cunningham, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
March 2, 2023

Kirby Smart is very good at winning games, but that’s only part of his job. Georgia’s football coach also has a moral and ethical responsibility to protect the welfare of his players and the community. He’s supposed to ensure that his program is a positive representation of the state’s flagship university.

Smart is bad at that part of his job. That’s judging by his standards, not mine.
“I’ve obviously done a poor job with this group of connecting and making sure they listen and understand things,” Smart said after six Bulldogs players were arrested from February-April 2019. “They have to learn as young men that you can’t break the rules, you can’t break the law. Obviously our guys have not done a good job of that, and that all falls on me. We’re going to do a great job of moving forward to get these guys in the right place to make the right decisions.”

Four years and two national championships later, some of Smart’s players still are in the wrong places making the wrong decisions. That means Smart still is doing a poor job of getting through to them. And now the consequences of his failures are much, much worse.
In 2019, Smart’s players were accused of fighting in bars, minor traffic violations and possession of marijuana. Those are illegal actions, but ultimately, not harmful. Now Smart’s players allegedly are involved in street racing, with one incident leading to the tragic death of two people.

UGA football staffer Chandler LeCroy and player Devin Willock died in a car crash Jan. 15 in Athens. Each new detail of that tragic event makes Smart’s program and Athens-Clarke County police look worse. It may not be over yet. There could be more revelations as police get around to properly investigating what they initially tried to pass off as a single-vehicle crash, despite evidence to the contrary.
It turns out that Bulldogs star Jalen Carter was at the scene of the fatal crash when it happened. Carter, 21, was charged Wednesday with street racing and reckless driving. Carter said he’s innocent of the charges and will be exonerated.

The AJC reported that surveillance cameras on the night of the accident showed Georgia linebacker Jamon Dumas-Johnson’s car leaving the area at the same time as vehicles driven by Carter and LeCroy. Dumas-Johnson, 21, was charged last week with street racing and reckless driving for an unrelated incident five days before the crash. Dumas-Johnson allegedly led police on a high-speed chase in Athens.
Smart hasn’t commented about the incidents beyond issuing a statement expressing concern. I’m less interested in what Smart says than what he does. Smart must figure out how to curtail the irresponsible behavior by the people in his charge. They are endangering themselves and the public.
The program’s problems are fueled by a volatile mix of youth, fast cars, entitlement and alcohol (police say LeCroy was drunk at the time of the crash). Smart needs to focus on fixing his program, not sending his fixer to help players out of legal jams. Smart’s goal should be saving lives, not avoiding negative headlines.
The latest incidents involving UGA football are part of an escalating pattern of vehicle-related transgressions by players.
Weeks after the Bulldogs won the 2021 national championship, linebacker Nolan Smith was charged with speeding 44 mph over the limit in a construction zone and arrested for driving with a suspended license. Smith played in the first nine games in 2022 before sustaining a season-ending injury. Javon Bullard missed a game last season following his arrest by UGA police on DUI charges. Bullard played in UGA’s 14 other games last season.
The charges against Carter and Dumas-Johnson are misdemeanors. But their alleged actions posed a serious threat to everyone who was near them on the roads at the time of their alleged actions. That’s especially true because they were driving high-horsepower machines.
Smart shouldn’t police which models of vehicles his players drive. He should be warning them against driving recklessly, but ultimately, Smart’s players make their own choices. UGA educates its athletes about the pitfalls of alcohol and drug abuse. It’s up to those players to use that information to make smarter decisions.
What Smart can do is create real consequences when those choices go badly. Players might resist the urge to drive like fools if they know they’ll miss multiple games if they get caught. Instead, Smart employs a staffer who serves as a liaison between the program and police.
If a Georgia football player isn’t arrested in the first place, then there can be no public scrutiny of how Smart handles the aftermath.
That’s how coaches like it. They are accustomed to having total control of their programs with little external examination. Now Smart has lost control of the narrative because two members of his program died in a crash and others are accused of racing vehicles in the streets. As Smart said in 2019, it’s on him to make sure his players understand they can’t break laws and rules.
I’m not saying that Smart should suspend players and staffers every time they get a traffic ticket. However, they should face significant consequences for driving infractions. Smart should send a clear message that if you want to keep your job, then slow down.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing that Smart employs a staffer to look out for the interests of players when they have contact with police. After all, cops are allowed to lie to citizens to get them to incriminate themselves. But if Smart’s players escape legal trouble, then his internal discipline had better be a true disincentive against reckless behavior rather than perfunctory punishment.
Georgia supporters should want that, too. They should be careful about losing their moral compass and sense of humanity as negative media coverage surrounds the football program. Right or wrong shouldn’t be a sliding scale that’s based on what’s happening with a rival’s program. Worse things happening elsewhere shouldn’t be an excuse for Georgia not to do better.
Smart is great at coaching the Bulldogs on the field. The result is back-to-back national championships. But the reckless behavior of people in Smart’s program since the Jan. 9 national title game reveal that Smart is bad at the other part of his job.

 

[ScionOfSouthland]

Another AJC article about it ---


Georgia’s Kirby Smart failing at big part of his job

Caption
Credit: Hyosub.Shin@ajc.com

MIKE CHECK BLOG
By Michael Cunningham, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
March 2, 2023

Kirby Smart is very good at winning games, but that’s only part of his job. Georgia’s football coach also has a moral and ethical responsibility to protect the welfare of his players and the community. He’s supposed to ensure that his program is a positive representation of the state’s flagship university.

Smart is bad at that part of his job. That’s judging by his standards, not mine.
“I’ve obviously done a poor job with this group of connecting and making sure they listen and understand things,” Smart said after six Bulldogs players were arrested from February-April 2019. “They have to learn as young men that you can’t break the rules, you can’t break the law. Obviously our guys have not done a good job of that, and that all falls on me. We’re going to do a great job of moving forward to get these guys in the right place to make the right decisions.”

Four years and two national championships later, some of Smart’s players still are in the wrong places making the wrong decisions. That means Smart still is doing a poor job of getting through to them. And now the consequences of his failures are much, much worse.
In 2019, Smart’s players were accused of fighting in bars, minor traffic violations and possession of marijuana. Those are illegal actions, but ultimately, not harmful. Now Smart’s players allegedly are involved in street racing, with one incident leading to the tragic death of two people.

UGA football staffer Chandler LeCroy and player Devin Willock died in a car crash Jan. 15 in Athens. Each new detail of that tragic event makes Smart’s program and Athens-Clarke County police look worse. It may not be over yet. There could be more revelations as police get around to properly investigating what they initially tried to pass off as a single-vehicle crash, despite evidence to the contrary.
It turns out that Bulldogs star Jalen Carter was at the scene of the fatal crash when it happened. Carter, 21, was charged Wednesday with street racing and reckless driving. Carter said he’s innocent of the charges and will be exonerated.

The AJC reported that surveillance cameras on the night of the accident showed Georgia linebacker Jamon Dumas-Johnson’s car leaving the area at the same time as vehicles driven by Carter and LeCroy. Dumas-Johnson, 21, was charged last week with street racing and reckless driving for an unrelated incident five days before the crash. Dumas-Johnson allegedly led police on a high-speed chase in Athens.
Smart hasn’t commented about the incidents beyond issuing a statement expressing concern. I’m less interested in what Smart says than what he does. Smart must figure out how to curtail the irresponsible behavior by the people in his charge. They are endangering themselves and the public.
The program’s problems are fueled by a volatile mix of youth, fast cars, entitlement and alcohol (police say LeCroy was drunk at the time of the crash). Smart needs to focus on fixing his program, not sending his fixer to help players out of legal jams. Smart’s goal should be saving lives, not avoiding negative headlines.
The latest incidents involving UGA football are part of an escalating pattern of vehicle-related transgressions by players.
Weeks after the Bulldogs won the 2021 national championship, linebacker Nolan Smith was charged with speeding 44 mph over the limit in a construction zone and arrested for driving with a suspended license. Smith played in the first nine games in 2022 before sustaining a season-ending injury. Javon Bullard missed a game last season following his arrest by UGA police on DUI charges. Bullard played in UGA’s 14 other games last season.
The charges against Carter and Dumas-Johnson are misdemeanors. But their alleged actions posed a serious threat to everyone who was near them on the roads at the time of their alleged actions. That’s especially true because they were driving high-horsepower machines.
Smart shouldn’t police which models of vehicles his players drive. He should be warning them against driving recklessly, but ultimately, Smart’s players make their own choices. UGA educates its athletes about the pitfalls of alcohol and drug abuse. It’s up to those players to use that information to make smarter decisions.
What Smart can do is create real consequences when those choices go badly. Players might resist the urge to drive like fools if they know they’ll miss multiple games if they get caught. Instead, Smart employs a staffer who serves as a liaison between the program and police.
If a Georgia football player isn’t arrested in the first place, then there can be no public scrutiny of how Smart handles the aftermath.
That’s how coaches like it. They are accustomed to having total control of their programs with little external examination. Now Smart has lost control of the narrative because two members of his program died in a crash and others are accused of racing vehicles in the streets. As Smart said in 2019, it’s on him to make sure his players understand they can’t break laws and rules.
I’m not saying that Smart should suspend players and staffers every time they get a traffic ticket. However, they should face significant consequences for driving infractions. Smart should send a clear message that if you want to keep your job, then slow down.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing that Smart employs a staffer to look out for the interests of players when they have contact with police. After all, cops are allowed to lie to citizens to get them to incriminate themselves. But if Smart’s players escape legal trouble, then his internal discipline had better be a true disincentive against reckless behavior rather than perfunctory punishment.
Georgia supporters should want that, too. They should be careful about losing their moral compass and sense of humanity as negative media coverage surrounds the football program. Right or wrong shouldn’t be a sliding scale that’s based on what’s happening with a rival’s program. Worse things happening elsewhere shouldn’t be an excuse for Georgia not to do better.
Smart is great at coaching the Bulldogs on the field. The result is back-to-back national championships. But the reckless behavior of people in Smart’s program since the Jan. 9 national title game reveal that Smart is bad at the other part of his job.

Great first half, then backs off in the second. Shame… I usually like how Cunningham doesn’t pull punches. That bulldog money is hard to deny.

 

[Skydog]

So wait. There was a 3rd car that night driven by Dumbas-Johnson who had just been charged with reckless driving and street racing 5 days earlier. This just keeps getting "better."

 

[savbandjacket]

Isn't GSP called in for every auto accident that results in a fatality? That's how I've always seen it happen here. Idk if they take over investigation or just handle the active scene, but they are always there.

SCRT is called in for anything on a state run highway and at option of local authorities for county/municipal roads for fatal wrecks.

 

[gtphd]

uGA is not the state’s flagship university.

 

[Vespidie]

Seriously. Gantt knows about everything that was going on and was going to pay players fines. Chase the paper trail at Clark county court on how many times he paid players fines then request documentation on who gave him$ to pay fines. I know ncaa is toothless, but paying players legal fines with school funds sounds like something they could find as a violation.

We don’t really believe that a ‘paper trail’ related to the payment of traffic citations are going to have anything tying gagger U to it do we? I do agree that it’s going to take an outside 3rd party(s) to find out the true shenanigans occurring. Lots of open record requests on the horizon.

 

[coit]

uGA is not the state’s flagship university.

Georgia State?

 

[thegtstunner08]

Smart backs UGA culture after fatal crash, arrests

Georgia coach Kirby Smart insists his program does not have a culture problem despite a pair of high-profile arrests of players, including Jalen Carter's booking over a Jan. 15 crash that killed a Bulldogs football player and a recruiting staff member.

www.espn.com

 

[thegtstunner08]

I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if scenarios like this are the real reason why Kirby got FOIA rules changed when he started at Georgia.

Georgia made a dumb law to protect UGA from a non-problem

www.sbnation.com

Amazing what they stooped to get a Natty. Their recruiting got better when Smart arrived. A lot of these kids from the past three years would have gone to Bama if it weren't for Smart. I mean, they have always got good players but Kirby must sell something good over there and now we know.

 

[thegtstunner08]

We don’t really believe that a ‘paper trail’ related to the payment of traffic citations are going to have anything tying gagger U to it do we? I do agree that it’s going to take an outside 3rd party(s) to find out the true shenanigans occurring. Lots of open record requests on the horizon.

They don't have a law school for nothing.

 

[LaFlavor]

uGA is not a university.

FTFY