“Escorted to their cars” ajc article

andrew said:
GSU Paintballer when?

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He posted on here like a month ago
 
11 million reasons why this is personal. Ten years from now we may still be talking about the damage to GT FB from this contract (The way we talk about the Hewitt damage).

Hopefully we will get past this sooner rather than later and we will put all this behind us.

I think what is MOST UPSETTING is we paid for PREMIUM when Collins should have been a bargain. If this guy really "loved" GT then he would have came here on an incentive based contract. Instead he "negotiated" from the standpoint that he would make $$$ and he was doing GT a "favor" by coaching at this ****hole.

Stan not only allowed this he appeared to facilitate this. Some of us are wondering if this is the "GREATEST CON" in ACC FB history.
 
law_bee said:
11 million reasons why this is personal. Ten years from now we may still be talking about the damage to GT FB from this contract (The way we talk about the Hewitt damage).

Hopefully we will get past this sooner rather than later and we will put all this behind us.

I think what is MOST UPSETTING is we paid for PREMIUM when Collins should have been a bargain. If this guy really "loved" GT then he would have came here on an incentive based contract. Instead he "negotiated" from the standpoint that he would make $$$ and he was doing GT a "favor" by coaching at this ****hole.

Stan not only allowed this he appeared to facilitate this. Some of us are wondering if this is the "GREATEST CON" in ACC FB history.
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I never would have believed it at the time…that even Brian Van Gorder would have been a better hire.

This has definitely been the biggest coaching disaster in Georgia Tech history.
 
law_bee said:
11 million reasons why this is personal. Ten years from now we may still be talking about the damage to GT FB from this contract (The way we talk about the Hewitt damage).

Hopefully we will get past this sooner rather than later and we will put all this behind us.

I think what is MOST UPSETTING is we paid for PREMIUM when Collins should have been a bargain. If this guy really "loved" GT then he would have came here on an incentive based contract. Instead he "negotiated" from the standpoint that he would make $$$ and he was doing GT a "favor" by coaching at this ****hole.

Stan not only allowed this he appeared to facilitate this. Some of us are wondering if this is the "GREATEST CON" in ACC FB history.
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There have been some VERY BAD contracts for football coaches across CFB. Good news is ours in the grand scheme of things compared to other schools, isn't terrible. What IS terrible is that we were not in a position to make a 7 year guaranteed contract and to your point, nor should we have based on Collins resume and desire to come here (he came to us!).
 
law_bee said:
11 million reasons why this is personal. Ten years from now we may still be talking about the damage to GT FB from this contract (The way we talk about the Hewitt damage).

Hopefully we will get past this sooner rather than later and we will put all this behind us.

I think what is MOST UPSETTING is we paid for PREMIUM when Collins should have been a bargain. If this guy really "loved" GT then he would have came here on an incentive based contract. Instead he "negotiated" from the standpoint that he would make $$$ and he was doing GT a "favor" by coaching at this ****hole.

Stan not only allowed this he appeared to facilitate this. Some of us are wondering if this is the "GREATEST CON" in ACC FB history.
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Not trying to debate the past, but considering the kind of coach all of us want in our effort to right our sinking ship, do you think we'll be able to get a quality coach to come on board at this point without offering something as guaranteed as we previously gave Collins? Think we can get a top coach to sign on with an incentive based deal?
 
EagleSting said:
When Georgia Tech announced their dismissals in a news release Monday, school President Ángel Cabrera praised both athletic director Todd Stansbury and football coach Geoff Collins in statements for their efforts on behalf of the institute.

He noted Collins’ commitment to his players. He said of Stansbury that the Tech alumnus is and will always be an admired and respected member of the Tech community and that his dedication to Yellow Jackets athletes and love for Tech are admirable. It was because of the team’s poor on-field performance that they were being fired, Cabrera’s statement read.

Earlier that day, however, after he had met with both men in successive meetings to inform them of their terminations, their treatment did not express gratitude or respect. After being fired in his office, Stansbury and Collins were escorted to their cars to leave campus without being able to return to their offices and had to surrender their phones immediately, two people familiar with the situation told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

While their dismissals surely did not come as a surprise after weeks of speculation that their jobs were in danger for the underperformance of Collins’ football team, the manner in which they were handled after being dismissed surely did. It struck a nerve with others.
Tech great Bill Curry, who coached Stansbury and had had interactions with Collins, said that since he didn’t know personally that it had happened, he was assuming that such an action didn’t actually take place.

“But if it did, I would be utterly shocked and dismayed,” he said.
Asked for comment, an institute spokesman replied in an email that the school doesn’t comment on those sorts of details of personnel actions. During the tenure of former Tech President G.P. “Bud” Peterson (Cabrera’s immediate predecessor), such action was rare, according to a person familiar with Peterson’s policies.

It is not the norm within athletics. For instance, when Collins fired three assistant coaches at the end of last season, they were given all the time they needed to collect their belongings and were not monitored, according to the person with knowledge of Collins’ post-dismissal handling. The assistant coaches’ phones were not returned until January 2022, more than a month after they had been let go.

While in the relative past, former basketball coach Paul Hewitt (fired in 2011) and former football coach Chan Gailey (fired in 2007), both dismissed for performance reasons like Collins and Stansbury, were not walked out of the building or forced to turn over their phones, a person familiar with those events told the AJC. However, the same person said that he was “a little surprised, but not shocked” that it happened in that way Monday. He surmised that it was a protocol for the institute’s highest office, as people fired there often may have access to the school’s intellectual property or sensitive information.
Bob Vecchione, the CEO of the National Association of Collegiate Athletic Directors of Athletics, said in email that “this action does not strike me as unusual,” also theorizing that it probably was based on institute protocol.
Tech graduate and major donor Steve Zelnak wrote in an email that he was not aware that the coach and AD were escorted to their cars, but that such a procedure is not an unusual practice in the corporate world.
When explained the circumstances with Collins and Stansbury, an expert in the human-resources field said that he also thought that the procedure might be part of institute protocol.
Peter Cappelli, director of the Center for Human Resources at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School, wrote in an email that the practice of walking out fired employees and not letting them return to their workplaces typically is done to limit the risk of those former employees causing a disturbance or damage. But choosing that procedure also carries a different kind of risk.
“But the people who are watching think, ‘Wow, something really bad must be going on around here for the organization to do this. I wonder how widespread it was,’” Cappelli wrote. “You should also care about what these ex-leaders are going to say about the place if people ask them, and they will ask after this.”
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Perhaps that outfit being led by those georgia grads advised the prez on how to "transition" them out. You know, stir up the Jackets nest just for the fun of it. As for protocol, I doubt seriously Tech fires many people. Getting on staff is similar to living off the government tit, you know, once your in the club your on the payroll for life.
 
law_bee said:
Stan not only allowed this he appeared to facilitate this. Some of us are wondering if this is the "GREATEST CON" in ACC FB history.
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The whole Peterson, Curry, Stansbury, O’Leary, Collins circle jerk needs to be banished from the face of the earth.

Start with Peterson, the worst and most unethical President GT has ever had. Botched student dismissals, riots on campus, ethics issues with his leadership and rampant among the ranks, his inappropriate involvement of GT in national politics, poor hiring of ADs and major sports coaches, etc. Besides that Peterson was just a Grade A tool.

It’s hard to believe that such a legacy could become pervasive at GT. Cabrera needs to get the broom out and eradicate that disease from GT before it damages us further. Go HAM Cabrera!
 
Liberty said:
The whole Peterson, Curry, Stansbury, O’Leary, Collins circle jerk needs to be banished from the face of the earth.

Start with Peterson, the worst and most unethical President GT has ever had. Botched student dismissals, riots on campus, ethics issues with his leadership and rampant among the ranks, his inappropriate involvement of GT in national politics, poor hiring of ADs and major sports coaches, etc. Besides that Peterson was just a Grade A tool.

It’s hard to believe that such a legacy could become pervasive at GT. Cabrera needs to get the broom out and eradicate that disease from GT before it damages us further. Go HAM Cabrera!
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Unfortunately, Peterson is still on campus.
 
Liberty said:
The whole Peterson, Curry, Stansbury, O’Leary, Collins circle jerk needs to be banished from the face of the earth.

Start with Peterson, the worst and most unethical President GT has ever had. Botched student dismissals, riots on campus, ethics issues with his leadership and rampant among the ranks, his inappropriate involvement of GT in national politics, poor hiring of ADs and major sports coaches, etc. Besides that Peterson was just a Grade A tool.

It’s hard to believe that such a legacy could become pervasive at GT. Cabrera needs to get the broom out and eradicate that disease from GT before it damages us further. Go HAM Cabrera!
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O'Leary? What does he have to do with all the others?
 
GT flunkout said:
O'Leary? What does he have to do with all the others?
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O’Leary and that group were the ones that ramrodded Collins in here. Stansbury was O’Leary’s AD at UCF, Stansbury was coached by Curry. Peterson is just a tool. A tool that was used by the others because he really didn’t give a öööö about GT athletics so he didn’t give a öööö about hiring Sasquatch or Stansbury.
 
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