35 Head Coaches make more than Paul Johnson

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Johnson's resume is on par or better than most of them, and he's doing it with 2 and 3 star players. I think Georgia Tech is getting more than their money's worth.

Johnson outcoached Dan Mullen in the Orange Bowl last year, and Mullen is 16 on the list coaching top 20 recruiting classes.

So next time you complain about Paul Johnson's contract, just think of how much money you're going to pay the next coach to underachieve.
 
I don't think anybody wants to fire him and then hire someone cheaper. People want continued success. It's kinda stupid to tell them don't complain about mediocrity because otherwise it's more expensive.
 
who is complaining about his contract. We didn't even sniff the orange bowl b/f he got here (and that is even in 1990 championship year).

The rational part of my brain tells me this will be the most successful period of GT football in my lifetime.

Before PJ we were 4-4 or close to it in conf for ~8 straight years and now we have 2 conf losses and it is a huge disappointment.
 
I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Are we about to have a metrics discussion?
 
So he's the 36th highest paid coach? I ain't complaining. Most years, Tech has performed at about that level, and a couple of years have gone far above it.

I ain't hearing many complaints about CPJ's contract. What I'm hearing complaints about are:
* An O-line with experienced players who can't block.
* Losing to UNC/Duke two years in a row, which is unheard of for CPJ
* If things don't turn around, losing out on a bowl for the first time since early in O'Leary's tenure
* When 5th year seniors leave, we seem to not be able to have anyone even close to ready.

Honestly, the response to this losing streak around here has been downright measured. CPJ earned a lot of leeway with last year, and rightfully so. He also raised expectations among both the fanbase and the media. This is also a good thing, but brings added pressures to live up to those expectations.
 
With the cards he is dealt at GT, he is the perfect fit for Tech. GT is not going to pay 5 mil for a head football coach, unless 10 years from now it is the norm. It is a tough place to win football games.
 
Honestly, Vad Lee hurt us more this year than in 2013. Had we been able to play with Thomas in 2013, we likely have a stellar 2014 and he can better overcome injuries and inexperience in 2015. We would be 4-1, maybe even 5-0 right now.
 
smokey_wasp said:
So he's the 36th highest paid coach? I ain't complaining. Most years, Tech has performed at about that level, and a couple of years have gone far above it.

I ain't hearing many complaints about CPJ's contract. What I'm hearing complaints about are:
* An O-line with experienced players who can't block.
* Losing to UNC/Duke two years in a row, which is unheard of for CPJ
* If things don't turn around, losing out on a bowl for the first time since early in O'Leary's tenure
* When 5th year seniors leave, we seem to not be able to have anyone even close to ready.

Honestly, the response to this losing streak around here has been downright measured. CPJ earned a lot of leeway with last year, and rightfully so. He also raised expectations among both the fanbase and the media. This is also a good thing, but brings added pressures to live up to those expectations.
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Good post. I'm just tired of the culture in college football where a break from the constant "Should ________ be fired?" discussion is only as long as the current win streak. There's something very sad about the idea of hiring a coach and the first question in most people's minds is "How long do we give him to win a national title before we fire him?"
 
Considering that over the past 8 years we are probably about the 35th best team on average, this seems about right.
 
The Jacket said:
Good post. I'm just tired of the culture in college football where a break from the constant "Should ________ be fired?" discussion is only as long as the current win streak. There's something very sad about the idea of hiring a coach and the first question in most people's minds is "How long do we give him to win a national title before we fire him?"
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I agree with that. I like continuity. If you've got a guy who wins at a decent clip and fits the institution well, you're well served to hang on to him. Problem is, every fanbase wants the next Urban or Saban. There's only two of those guys and they would only even consider taking a job at a handful of schools. Even really good coaches like Stoops and Miles haven't sniffed natl. titles in years, and have had down years. But you hold on to them if you're smart, knowing they will keep your program above water and in a really special year when everything aligns, they're capable of winning big. Or you could be Tennessee and Texas, and throw money at coaches every 3 years to satisfy your annoying fanbase, but never find the right guy.
 
smokey_wasp said:
I agree with that. I like continuity. If you've got a guy who wins at a decent clip and fits the institution well, you're well served to hang on to him. Problem is, every fanbase wants the next Urban or Saban. There's only two of those guys. Even really good coaches like Stoops and Miles haven't sniffed natl. titles in years, and have had down years. But you hold on to them if you're smart, knowing they will keep your program above water and in a really special year when everything aligns, they're capable of winning big. Or you could be Tennessee and Texas, and throw money at coaches every 3 years, but never find the right guy.
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Correct. And Richt is the obvious guy that always comes up where continuity is concerned. The issue there is that Georgia's "turn", so to speak, has come and gone on multiple occasions and they've missed it each time, failing to win the games that would have otherwise put them into a title match. 2002 seemed to indicate that they'd be that sort of team, then after the way they ended 2007 they appeared to finally reach that point, they won the preseason national title in 2008 and since then they've choked away every opportunity to become a truly elite program.

From that standpoint I understand why many Georgia fans (taking into account their overwhelming idiocy) call for his head. But if they fire him then the most likely result is that they'll go the way of Tennessee or Texas as you mentioned. And for that reason, I hope their QB woes lead to losses against Tennessee, Florida, Auburn and us. That could maybe result in enough outcry for him to get the ax.
 
Who has called for his head? Why are the defenders out feigning a perceived threat that simply doesn't exist? Look, there is no way to defend how unbalanced his classes are that has forced us to play a lot of true and redshirt freshmen. The injuries certainly haven't helped, but we went into this year with two a-backs, one receiver, and zero b-backs with any experience in the system. That's on Paul. Hopefully, he'll learn from it. So far, this year has been a disaster.
 
GT1992 said:
Who has called for his head? Why are the defenders out feigning a perceived threat that simply doesn't exist? Look, there is no way to defend how unbalanced his classes are that has forced us to play a lot of true and redshirt freshmen. The injuries certainly haven't helped, but we went into this year with two a-backs, one receiver, and zero b-backs with any experience in the system. That's on Paul. Hopefully, he'll learn from it. So far, this year has been a disaster.
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Dude. Seriously? The people who whine about how he can't get it done here and how much he sucks aren't implying that they think he should be allowed to continue doing so.
 
CPJ has done some great things for our team, and some greater things on the academic side for our S/As.

That does not mean a critical eye can not be cast upon his last 2 years vs puke/unc, or his overall record vs vt, um, FSU, ugag. Done pretty well vs cu.
 
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