$8 million deal

supersenior said:
In the sense that his team isn’t paying him.
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Webster gives me: "taking part in an activity (as a sport) in order to make money." Looks like a fit to me.

But OK, then, fine. Have it your way. He's an amateur athlete. But this isn't even close to the most a "non-professional athlete" got for selling their NIL. Simone Biles, Michael Phelps and Lindsay Vonn all say "Hi."
 
A NIL Collective is a legal bagman

ROI for the Collectives doesn't matter. They aren't really trying to setup NIL opportunities that are market driven even though there will be some legit opportunities available. But that really isn't the purpose… they are selling "come to our school and play”

Pay structure is according to the player’s social media account… player success = more likes and follows = more money. It's all based on performance metrics and clicks/views, which the max amounts are not attainable.

Nobody is paying the kid $8M.
 
1982Jacket said:
Webster gives me: "taking part in an activity (as a sport) in order to make money." Looks like a fit to me.
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That’s their definition for professional? That’s way too vague. You could argue that peewee players who want to make it to the nfl/nba/whatever are professionals then.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
$8 million is more than half of NFL players make… good lord
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I haven't read the Supreme Court case, and I probably wouldn't understand it if I did, and I don't know much about this. But, I'm wondering why the same argument couldn't be made for high school stars. They work. Their work results in more tickets and radio ads being sold, etc.

For instance, private high schools give scholarships to great athletes. So, these athletes do have financial value to the private high schools. So, why shouldn't they get paid? What makes a guy a "student" his senior year in high school and a millionaire a few months later when he gets to college?

If players are up for auction, won't Texas and Texas A+M always end up with the best players? Why will other schools keep trying to pay for an athletic department just to have the privilege of giving Texas and Texas A+M teams to beat?

Even the NFL realizes that it needs to give the team with the worst record the opportunity to pick the best player in the next draft, or else the NFL would lose competitive balance and quit being entertaining to fans.

What should be done about this? What can keep this from killing college sports? I don't know.
 
coit said:
Not really a good comparison. Tiger had already won the Jr Amateur 3 times and the US Amateur 2 times. And had finished 40th in the Masters in his first attempt.

This kid is a high school junior who has done nothing of the sort.

Surely you aren’t defending this out of control NIL crap because it is killing what was left of college football?
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Bah. Nothing wrong with the comparison. Tiger may have been more accomplished but it was still a ballsy call by Phil Knight at the time that turned out to be one hell of a good investment, despite what all of the "get off my lawn" old men like you and me were saying about it at the time.

Do I defend this "out of control NIL crap"? No. I think it's pretty foolish but I don't think it is "killing what is left of college football". That's just more hyperbole. Colleges profited off college athletes to the tune of billions of dollars for decades and once the court ruling from EA Sports went against them, the NCAA saw the writing on the wall and went way too far in the opposite direction IMO.

To my observation, it appears that the NIL stuff is a dick-measuring contest with each alumni base trying to outdo the others to bring in top recruits...in the hopes of winning a championship. But I'll say this....I believe Bryce Young received a $1 million NIL deal before he ever started a game at Bama. Whoever made that deal is probably feeling pretty good about their investment at this point, if that contract had any kind of wording about him being obligated to rep their product/company later when he becomes an NFL player. If so, I would say they got a bargain if that kid doesn't get hurt.
 
daBuzz said:
To my observation, it appears that the NIL stuff is a dick-measuring contest with each alumni base trying to outdo the others to bring in top recruits...in the hopes of winning a championship. But I'll say this....I believe Bryce Young received a $1 million NIL deal before he ever started a game at Bama. Whoever made that deal is probably feeling pretty good about their investment at this point, if that contract had any kind of wording about him being obligated to rep their product/company later when he becomes an NFL player. If so, I would say they got a bargain if that kid doesn't get hurt.
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I’m with you on that for the most part. But, with these kinds of payments been legal and acceptable, I don’t see how we or any other 2nd tier team are ever going to get a real game changing player. They are going to be locked up by the SEC, Clemson, B1G, etc, etc, with all the rest being bottom feeders.
 
CiraldoForever said:
Even the NFL realizes that it needs to give the team with the worst record the opportunity to pick the best player in the next draft, or else the NFL would lose competitive balance and quit being entertaining to fans.

What should be done about this? What can keep this from killing college sports? I don't know.
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College football and especially the SEC needs to understand what makes the NFL the dominant TV sport in the land is competitive balance. Every team plays by the same rules and budget. Every fan base has hope and come back engaged, year after year. College football has already consolidated to a few teams + the SEC. Once UT and OU join the SEC, the golden goose is dead. Nobody will bother watching as its pretty much pointless. Frankly I hope it all collapses and the SEC has only itself to play. Lets see how interesting that will be.
 
supersenior said:
That’s their definition for professional? That’s way too vague. You could argue that peewee players who want to make it to the nfl/nba/whatever are professionals then.
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I literally cut and paste. I'm not smart enough to make up something myself.
 
GTWannaBee said:
I just can’t imagine having so much money that I would choose to spend $8 million of it to ensure a kid (he’s still a junior in high school) would play football for the team I root for. That’s just insane to me given all of the charities and causes that are begging for money right now. This has definitely gotten out of hand.
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It's probably that all of this kid's teachers' salaries for his entire 12-year school career wouldn't dent that $8MM
 
gt2690b said:
cam newton disagrees
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Yeah, but Cam put them over. That defense was just outstanding. That was a perfect example of the football gods giving one to Auburn. But, yes, if ever a player did it all it was Cam that year.
 
kirby is getting a contract extension & he’s happy with it. But he’s holding off. He is not signing until everyone involved in the NIL Collective are on board and signed. He wants his players paid. This is the future.
 
Colleges & universities need to get out of this arms race NOW!
Let the NFL fund these guys in a minor league. The ones that just want to play for the sake of playing & love of the game I would watch but I WILL NOT WATCH guys these guys that feel entitled. They are ruining what was once a great game. I blame tv & media for their part in all this.
College football is now dead to me just like the pro sports are. Hoops too.
Now get the hell off of my lawn!
 
OptionJacket said:
Yeah, but Cam put them over. That defense was just outstanding. That was a perfect example of the football gods giving one to Auburn. But, yes, if ever a player did it all it was Cam that year.
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And that defense was run by a young up-and-comer named Ted Roof. I wonder what ever happened to that young man
 
georgytech said:
Colleges & universities need to get out of this arms race NOW!
Let the NFL fund these guys in a minor league
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LOL. This has been going on since the SCOTUS ruled in favor of UGA/OK (back in the mid 80s) allowing in part more TV appearances.

Of course, it is on hyper speed now w/the portal and NIL coming together to wreck havoc. But, a big chunk of these institutions are quite fine w/the above board paying of athletes. Question is whether this just speeds up the timeline for college football to split into a super duper league of 24 teams or so that are essentially AAA ball for the NFL and the rest (which would include GT) compete in something resembling amateur athletics.

A question I've asked a bunch of times: why would the NFL pay/fund something that the colleges do for free?
 
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