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Big Ten seems like a bad idea to me based on the geography of conference members. Sorry but I still think this matters a lot.

Agreed, but it matters only to us fans, and that’s where it stops. Money has completely taken over college football and geography and classic regional rivalries are completely meaningless now.
 
I guess one of the reasons our president is being so vocally committed to our athletics is to show the B1G and the SEC that we truly are committed to financially improving our teams. I can’t imagine either one of them wanting to pick up a Vandy. They want teams that want to win.
 
Whichever the megaconference, we'd have to win a lot to not be a second-class citizen. Has quickly become the case in the ACC.

Big Ten seems like a bad idea to me based on the geography of conference members. Sorry but I still think this matters a lot. I think we'll look back on this period of wild conference expansion (and NIL and Portal) as madness. Only way Big Ten is sensible is if a lot of ACC teams go with us.

I already look at it as madness, college football has changed into something else and it's something I don't particularly enjoy, which is why Georgia Tech football is the only football I care about and that's because of Tech not because of college football. The college football that we all grew up with is dead, likely never to return.

But that's the landscape, have to roll with it. And while I understand the perspective that joining the Big Ten would be a bad idea, these things don't happen in a vacuum. Bad idea or not if the Big Ten comes knocking we have no choice but to accept, it would be a colossal mistake not to do so, we are not in a position of power here and we will not have the luxury of picking and choosing. We are not the hot girl. Most likely we will have to be proactive to not be left out in the cold, which is a real possibility and a damn near certainty if we overvalue ourselves. I imagine that Cabrera and Batt know this, they aren't morons.
 
I already look at it as madness, college football has changed into something else and it's something I don't particularly enjoy, which is why Georgia Tech football is the only football I care about and that's because of Tech not because of college football. The college football that we all grew up with is dead, likely never to return.

But that's the landscape, have to roll with it. And while I understand the perspective that joining the Big Ten would be a bad idea, these things don't happen in a vacuum. Bad idea or not if the Big Ten comes knocking we have no choice but to accept, it would be a colossal mistake not to do so, we are not in a position of power here and we will not have the luxury of picking and choosing. We are not the hot girl. Most likely we will have to be proactive to not be left out in the cold, which is a real possibility and a damn near certainty if we overvalue ourselves. I imagine that Cabrera and Batt know this, they aren't morons.

Just because something is a bad idea does not mean it can't be the best idea.
 
For fun I asked ChatGPT whether we should join the Big Ten or the SEC:
As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, Georgia Tech is a member of the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC). However, if we were to speculate on potential conference moves, let's consider the pros and cons of Georgia Tech joining either the Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the Big Ten.
Joining the SEC would offer Georgia Tech the opportunity to compete against some of the most prestigious and historically successful football programs in the country. The SEC is known for its intense rivalries, passionate fan bases, and strong football tradition. The exposure and revenue potential within the conference could be significant for Georgia Tech. However, the competition would be fierce, with perennial powerhouses like Alabama, LSU, and Georgia, making it a challenging path to conference success.
On the other hand, joining the Big Ten would bring Georgia Tech into a conference known for its academic prowess and strong football heritage. The Big Ten offers a blend of football and academic excellence, with notable institutions like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State. The conference's footprint extends across the Midwest, providing exposure to a broader regional audience. Georgia Tech's engineering and academic reputation could align well with the conference's focus on education. However, the geographical distance from its traditional southeastern rivals may dilute some long-standing rivalries and regional connections.

I asked it to guess which one would be better:
Joining the Big Ten could potentially be a strong move for Georgia Tech. The conference has a reputation for emphasizing academics and research, aligning with Georgia Tech's focus on engineering and technology. The Big Ten's member institutions are prestigious and have a strong academic tradition, which could provide valuable collaborative opportunities and enhance Georgia Tech's academic profile.

Geographically, joining the Big Ten would expand Georgia Tech's reach into the Midwest, tapping into new markets and potentially attracting a broader regional fanbase. It could open doors to exciting matchups and new rivalries with respected football programs such as Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State.

Additionally, the Big Ten's revenue-sharing model has historically been favorable, offering member schools significant financial benefits. This could provide Georgia Tech with increased resources for athletic programs, facility upgrades, and investments in other areas.

I asked a different way though and ChatGPT wants us to join the SEC. It thinks FSU is already there which is maybe foresight.
If we were to speculate on which conference would be better for Georgia Tech to join, the SEC (Southeastern Conference) would likely be a more advantageous choice for several reasons:

  1. Geographic proximity and traditional rivalries: Georgia Tech is located in Atlanta, Georgia, which is in the heart of the Southeastern United States. Joining the SEC would allow the university to maintain and further develop its regional rivalries, such as with the University of Georgia (UGA) and Florida State University (FSU). These rivalries often generate significant fan interest and engagement, which can boost attendance and support for the athletic programs.
  2. Football prominence: The SEC has long been recognized as one of the most dominant and competitive conferences in college football. The conference consistently produces top-ranked teams and has a strong football culture. Joining the SEC would provide Georgia Tech's football program with more exposure, higher-profile matchups, and increased opportunities to compete against some of the nation's top football programs. This could help elevate Georgia Tech's football reputation and potentially improve recruiting efforts.
  3. Financial considerations: The SEC has a lucrative television contract and generates substantial revenue through its media rights deals. By joining the conference, Georgia Tech would gain access to a larger share of this revenue, which could provide a significant financial boost for the athletic department. This additional funding can be used to enhance facilities, invest in coaching staff, and support other sports programs, ultimately strengthening the overall competitiveness of Georgia Tech's athletic program.
  4. Academic profile: While the SEC is known for its athletic prowess, it is also home to several esteemed academic institutions. Georgia Tech, as a renowned technological research university, would align well with the academic profile of schools like the University of Florida, Vanderbilt University, and the University of Texas. This association could provide opportunities for collaboration in research and academic initiatives, as well as elevate Georgia Tech's reputation among its peer institutions.
  5. Recruiting advantages: The SEC has a strong reputation for attracting top-tier athletes, particularly in football and basketball. Joining the conference would likely enhance Georgia Tech's ability to recruit high-caliber athletes, as it would offer the chance to compete against some of the best teams and showcase the university's athletic program on a bigger stage. This, in turn, could lead to improved team performance and increased national visibility for Georgia Tech's sports programs.

I think the SEC argument is more compelling except for point 4.
 
That's what I don't get. How has NC State and VT become more relevant than us? Or France for that matter? We have more history than those two schools, plus we were in the SEC. Have we become that unpopular??
NC State getting dragged by UNC. VT has UVA dragging them around.

UVA demanded VT in the ACC. Seems like a troll move looking at the league now. I mean, before, VT had a national championship trophy case just waiting to be filled. Now? ACC has beens
 
For fun I asked ChatGPT whether we should join the Big Ten or the SEC:


I asked it to guess which one would be better:


I asked a different way though and ChatGPT wants us to join the SEC. It thinks FSU is already there which is maybe foresight.


I think the SEC argument is more compelling except for point 4.
AI only reacts how a human has programmed it to react.
 
For fun I asked ChatGPT whether we should join the Big Ten or the SEC:


I asked it to guess which one would be better:


I asked a different way though and ChatGPT wants us to join the SEC. It thinks FSU is already there which is maybe foresight.


I think the SEC argument is more compelling except for point 4.
Except that the B1G's TV deal is worth more than the SEC's. (point 3)
 
AI only reacts how a human has programmed it to react.
If JJ programmed an AI Chat Bot:

I asked JJChat whether we should join the Big Ten or the SEC:
Funny, your mom was just asking me about my big ten last night.
I asked it to guess which one would be better:
2 chicks at the same time is always better
 
Hello JJ,

I understand why you might think that AI Chat only answers questions based on how it was programmed. However, as an AI language model, I can assure you that my responses are not solely limited to pre-programmed answers. While I have been trained on a vast amount of data and information, I can generate responses based on patterns, context, and understanding of the input I receive.

Instead of relying solely on rigid programming, AI models like mine utilize a technique called deep learning. During training, I was exposed to a wide range of text from various sources such as books, articles, websites, and more. This extensive exposure enables me to understand and generate coherent responses to a wide array of questions and prompts.

While my responses are not purely based on personal experiences or emotions, I strive to provide helpful and relevant information by drawing on the knowledge I have acquired. The goal is to simulate human-like conversation and offer valuable insights.

It's important to note that AI models have limitations. While I can provide information and engage in meaningful discussions, my responses should always be verified and cross-checked for accuracy by consulting reliable sources. Also, as an AI, I don't possess consciousness, personal opinions, or subjective experiences.

I'm here to assist you and provide information to the best of my abilities. If you have any specific questions or topics you'd like to discuss, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to provide a helpful response based on the knowledge I have been trained on.

Best regards, ChatGPT
 
I don't disagree but it produced a decent summary of human arguments for joining SEC and Big Ten.

It also suggested that the SEC will consume all P5 teams then organize the divisions so that each division's membership equates to the current conference lineup. And it's probably right.
 
As were we all
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