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Buzzilla said:
Tech was independent before and it didn't work out very well but maybe 2nd time around could be better. I vote for no conference. Let's go independent and try to get on the schedule of as many of the major programs as possible. UGA and Clemson is a good start.

It's better than staying in this milquetoast romper room of a conference. Tech will be fine regardless.
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Would we forego a TV deal? I think it would be really hard to get our games on TV outside of a conference.
 
QuadF said:
I think we're pretty much SEC or bust. The B10 has tv money, but their fans aren't going to travel to BDS - how much money do we lose by having no fans from opposing teams? Having opposing teams actually travel to BDS is a lot of money and it keeps it interesting to play teams that we have history with instead of a bunch of teams we don't care about.
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If we joined the Big X I think our fans would be in the minority for many conference home games. There are a ton of Big 10 alums all around the country, including the southeast. They will travel very well.
 
andrew said:
If we joined the Big X our fans would be in the minority for most conference home games. There are a ton of Big 10 alums all around the country, including the southeast. They will travel very well.
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Based on what? Bowls? or non-conference away games?
 
QuadF said:
Based on what? Bowls? or non-conference away games?
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Admittedly just pure speculation based on my knowledge of and personal experience with Big X schools. I may have exaggerated a bit but I think we'll have more away fans buying tickets overall in the Big X than in the ACC.
 
andrew said:
Would we forego a TV deal? I think it would be really hard to get our games on TV outside of a conference.
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You are correct that it would be hard to get some of our games on TV. But frankly, what's new? Georgia Tech football TV coverage has sucked for years. Unless we are playing a marquee name, the Tech games are relegated to bottom tier coverage if you can find it at all. We replay this crap every year waiting till the last minute to find out what bottom tier network is carrying our games. I have better luck just watching a bootleg on youtube most of the time. I mean is Bally's even solvent and operating at this point?

Furthermore, the TV model is rapidly changing moving more and more to streaming. I genuinely think it's time for some out of the box thinking, pun intended. The current trajectory of mega-conference TV rights cartels is 1) obviously limiting 2) not sustainable and 3) isn't going to be favorable to Tech specifically as we have been repeatedly treated as an afterthought.

Virtually every entertainment media category has been upended by internet streaming and is still rapidly evolving as the competition for eyeballs grows and grows. The media giants are dying and its showing.

Using the music industry as an example, an artist can now manage everything about their music, recording, production, brand, promotion, distribution, etc. from their own computer from anywhere in the world. Georgia Tech is more than capable of putting together a streaming broadcast platform on a small budget if necessary and manage all of it with subscriptions and advertising and/or individual contracts with other schools for a piece of the broadcast rights on a annual renewal basis.

I believe the time is rapidly approaching where programs like Tech will need to decide to live as free men or wither as hollow, mistreated servants.

I know what I would choose.
 
andrew said:
If we joined the Big X I think our fans would be in the minority for many conference home games. There are a ton of Big 10 alums all around the country, including the southeast. They will travel very well.
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Perhaps at first. But after we win a few marquis games versus the likes of Michigan/USC/tehOsU that ought to help put GT butts in the seats.
 
This all is starting to sound like a bunch of incessant whining. Is anyone here really going to be like ermegherd we're playing Ohio State and Purdue, that's it, I've had enough, I'm done watching GT football since we can't play NC State anymore.

It's life, öööö changes, roll with it, support the Jackets, maybe don't open the estrogen valves to full flow right out of the gate.
 
Buzzilla said:
You are correct that it would be hard to get some of our games on TV. But frankly, what's new? Georgia Tech football TV coverage has sucked for years. Unless we are playing a marquee name, the Tech games are relegated to bottom tier coverage if you can find it at all. We replay this crap every year waiting till the last minute to find out what bottom tier network is carrying our games. I have better luck just watching a bootleg on youtube most of the time. I mean is Bally's even solvent and operating at this point?

Furthermore, the TV model is rapidly changing moving more and more to streaming. I genuinely think it's time for some out of the box thinking, pun intended. The current trajectory of mega-conference TV rights cartels is 1) obviously limiting 2) not sustainable and 3) isn't going to be favorable to Tech specifically as we have been repeatedly treated as an afterthought.

Virtually every entertainment media category has been upended by internet streaming and is still rapidly evolving as the competition for eyeballs grows and grows. The media giants are dying and its showing.

Using the music industry as an example, an artist can now manage everything about their music, recording, production, brand, promotion, distribution, etc. from their own computer from anywhere in the world. Georgia Tech is more than capable of putting together a streaming broadcast platform on a small budget if necessary and manage all of it with subscriptions and advertising and/or individual contracts with other schools for a piece of the broadcast rights on a annual renewal basis.

I believe the time is rapidly approaching where programs like Tech will need to decide to live as free men or wither as hollow, mistreated servants.

I know what I would choose.
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Right now we get $30 million/year from our TV deal with the ACC. To say that we can forego that, take on the cost of operating our own streaming service (which will be very expensive as we have none of the pieces currently in place to do something like that), and come out ahead or even given the size of our fanbase is extremely optimistic in my opinion.

Also, I think you are misunderstanding what's happening in the music industry. While it's true that technically an artist can do all of those things, the reality is that almost none of them do. They all put their music on major streaming giants such as Spotify, Google Play Music, etc., because the cost and difficulty of doing all of that stuff on your own at scale is prohibitively high.
 
juraitwaluzka said:
This all is starting to sound like a bunch of incessant whining. Is anyone here really going to be like ermegherd we're playing Ohio State and Purdue, that's it, I've had enough, I'm done watching GT football since we can't play NC State anymore.

It's life, öööö changes, roll with it, support the Jackets, maybe don't open the estrogen valves to full flow right out of the gate.
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This is all starting to sound like incessant whining? Now? Like it didn’t for the past 13 years you were on the board?
 
Regardless of how this all shakes out, the death of regionally based college football conferences and rivalry's makes me disproportionately depressed. Sure, if we somehow go to BIG10 we when the "business" side of it. But I don't watch college football and attend games for the business side of it. I'm a fan of hoping in a car and traveling to Charlottesville or Clemson or even freakin Winston-Salem for an away game tailgate. Talking to stangers when you see them wearing the team from two states over's hat when you bump into them. If that gets lost in all this, and in Oct of 2030 we have a Oct. slate of Minnesota - UCLA - Iowa State - Rutgers lined up, I don't understand why that's supposed to be compelling. Maybe the feeling change when it inivitally becomes reality. I doubt it.
 
andrew said:
If we joined the Big X I think our fans would be in the minority for many conference home games. There are a ton of Big 10 alums all around the country, including the southeast. They will travel very well.
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Disagree. We have a lot of fans who do not go to games because our opponents suck. I confess to it being difficult to get motivated to see us play most of the ACC because the matchups are usually uninteresting outside of UM, FSU, Clemson, and sometimes VT.
 
andrew said:
Right now we get $30 million/year from our TV deal with the ACC. To say that we can forego that, take on the cost of operating our own streaming service (which will be very expensive as we have none of the pieces currently in place to do something like that), and come out ahead or even given the size of our fanbase is extremely optimistic in my opinion.

Also, I think you are misunderstanding what's happening in the music industry. While it's true that technically an artist can do all of those things, the reality is that almost none of them do. They all put their music on major streaming giants such as Spotify, Google Play Music, etc., because the cost and difficulty of doing all of that stuff on your own at scale is prohibitively high.
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$30Mil ain't what it used to be.

I believe the Georgia Tech brand is worth a helluva lot more than that. And the upside potentially a great deal more.
 
andrew said:
From your lips to God's ears.
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Its going to take time to rebuild the fan base outside us hardcore types who show up no matter what. Everybody points to the attendance of the Big Boys but forgets what happens when they are down for several years. I went to a USCw game back in 2018 in the LA Colosseum (night game vs CO) and the attendance was surprisingly low considering how good USC had been not too long before that.
 
GoGATech said:
It's the other way around. That dude wrote that entire article based off that tweet, which was bogus.
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Regardless of which came first, this is the complete tweet sequence ---
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