ACC ded

QuadF said:
I think we're pretty much SEC or bust. The B10 has tv money, but their fans aren't going to travel to BDS - how much money do we lose by having no fans from opposing teams? Having opposing teams actually travel to BDS is a lot of money and it keeps it interesting to play teams that we have history with instead of a bunch of teams we don't care about.
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Significant numbers of Big 10 fans already live in the Atlanta area with limited opportunities to see their teams. Northern fans can easily fly to Atlanta and enjoy warmer weather. We will have more visiting fans than attend now.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
Significant numbers of Big 10 fans already live in the Atlanta area with limited opportunities to see their teams. Northern fans can easily fly to Atlanta and enjoy warmer weather. We will have more visiting fans than attend now.
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Some fans we used to tailgate with attended Penn State.
 
THWUGA said:
TL;DR: The ACC is dead. Just a matter of time now.

The adjusted revenue distribution plan should be used by GT to get out with a negotiated penalty. That's not what we signed up for when we agreed to the GOR, it's a material breach. Sue us. Let's drag it out in the courts until the ACC actually falls apart and the lawsuit becomes moot. Get this öööö over with, and be the first to make a move.

Well, second to make a move, after Maryland was the smartest of these fools a few years ago.
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This is actually a really good idea. Vote against the proposal, and then leave if it takes effect for this reason.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
What until Dabo Swinney’s recruiting classes are put under scrutiny by Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, and some bigwig SEC coaches. They will sick the NCAA on him and he will be put in his place. You have to remember, Georgia Tech had an overall winning record against Clemson until about 10 years ago. Clemson is no powerhouse. And Florida State is a very little school that with a rare exception died with Bobby Bowden. I still remember Oregon destroying them. They will never be great again.
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Coming from a poster who is usually one of the most logical on here, I am not getting your logic here. Why wouldn’t programs like Clemson and FSU, and others want to go where they get money to compete?

Neither of them may ever be “great” again, but both have large fanbases, state of the art facilities, and boosters who will do what it takes to compete. Calling a 50,000 student huge school in a major market “very little” makes no sense. Clemson used to be Tech’s whipping boy, but we have some catching up to do there.
There is simply no way for ACC teams to continue on the current path and expect relevance. Something has to change going forward. I hope GT decision makers buy into that logic.
 
I read this thread and I don't like any of the future options. I think we are going to be a complimentary piece in a bigger plan. For instance, the B1G won't target us, but we end up being part of a package that works for them.

Given we won't get in the SEC I guess my best hope is:

1) We are one of 4 southern teams to the BIG.
2) That would give us 3 conference games a year.
3) Then we would get 3 more from the Indiana schools, OSU, and MD, which are not intolerably farther away than some of our conference opponents now.
4) We get one with the 4 schools out west (assuming Oregon and Washington join).
5) Then we would have 2 games a year with the rest of the league that are flat out nothing to us regarding any sort of actual conference affinity.

Like I said, I don't like any option, just trying to find something tolerable. One trip every other year out west would be rare enough to be a novelty. We would only have one really ööööty trip a year but maybe since that would be among so many teams it would be a novelty.

This is too good to happen because we will end up with whatever the scheduling leftovers are, like with our new ACC yearly opponents. We would probably have more ööööty upper midwest games.

The smaller sports would travel in similar proportions. Maybe they could do west coast road trips to 2 schools every other year or something similar. I don't know how baseball would work with that, can't go away for 6 games at a time.
 
I personally think the Big Ten is the better fit socially, academically, sports-wise, and for future generations. I think the Big Ten is very well run. The SEC is getting by due to superior football talent and money, NIL May drain those coffers. The Big Ten appears to have more strategic leadership.
 
GTCrew4b said:
I personally think the Big Ten is the better fit socially, academically, sports-wise, and for future generations. I think the Big Ten is very well run. The SEC is getting by due to superior football talent and money, NIL May drain those coffers. The Big Ten appears to have more strategic leadership.
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Agree. The BIG is what the ACC could have looked like if run by competent people instead of Swofford. And we would draw way more attendance numbers playing BIG opponents than ACC opponents outside of Clemson and FSU. The BIG has alum all over the southeast (Jax, BHam, Charlotte, ATL) so we would draw them to Bobby Dodd due to distance to their schools. But more than likely we end up in Conf USA or the Sunbelt due to our lack of vision prior to Cabrera.
 
savbandjacket said:
This is actually a really good idea. Vote against the proposal, and then leave if it takes effect for this reason.
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Anybody remember if Maryland ever paid their exit fee? I'm guessing they didn't. As suggested, maybe its worth bolting then letting them sue GT and hoping the conference dissolves before the case makes it to court.
 
Do not give these self-appointed ACC big boys their adjusted revenue plan. Stick together. Let them leave if they want and cash their checks as they move on. Nothing would be easier for these smug schools than to stay in the ACC but get closer to an SEC size check without playing against an SEC type schedule, competing against half of a conference who gets CUSA money. That would be the worst outcome imaginable.
 
00Burdell said:
Anybody remember if Maryland ever paid their exit fee? I'm guessing they didn't. As suggested, maybe its worth bolting then letting them sue GT and hoping the conference dissolves before the case makes it to court.
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www.usatoday.com

ACC, Maryland reach settlement on exit fee: $31.4M, not $52.2M

The ACC will keep the sum of $31,361,788 previously withheld.
www.usatoday.com

They negotiated to pay about 30 million instead of the 50 million they owed. That was before the current deal, of course.
 
00Burdell said:
Ummmm I don’t think ESPN is going to make the same payout to the ACC if a quarter of the teams - the 4 highest revenue generators - leave.
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Maybe. People seem to think those teams add above the median value of the SEC, which is $30 mil per year more than the acc today. That contract is going to be bank in 2035.
 
WracerX said:
Maybe. People seem to think those teams add above the median value of the SEC, which is $30 mil per year more than the acc today. That contract is going to be bank in 2035.
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I may be wrong, but I see Disney/ABC/ESPN eventually rethinking the billions they are throwing around. They have already separated out the business units further. Fanbois working for ESPN are gonna have to earn their way so these jumbo contracts are gonna be hard to come by going forward.
 
00Burdell said:
Ummmm I don’t think ESPN is going to make the same payout to the ACC if a quarter of the teams - the 4 highest revenue generators - leave.
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Another thought on this is does espn still get the broadcast rights to Clemson/FSU if they don’t renegotiate the contract that is already in their favor?

Say Bama @ Clemson is the premier sec game of the week. But CBS can’t grab that game, even though they have first pick of SEC games. That would be a pretty good deal for espn. Paying acc rates for sec matchups.
 
JJacket said:
I may be wrong, but I see Disney/ABC/ESPN eventually rethinking the billions they are throwing around. They have already separated out the business units further. Fanbois working for ESPN are gonna have to earn their way so these jumbo contracts are gonna be hard to come by going forward.
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Yeah, I think jumping conferences may not be as big a money grab as in the past.
 
andrew said:
The only reason the ACC still exists in its current state is that contract with the long duration. It's functioning as intended.

If the schools wanted to be in the ACC and it was just the television contract that was making people upset, we could renegotiate it. The reason we're not renegotiating is that renegotiating requires voting to dissolve that contract and as soon as that happens a bunch of schools will bolt rather than negotiate a better contract.
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I don’t know if this is true, but it makes sense. I would think the same logic applies to changing the fee split.
 
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