Bill Shanks interviews PJ

GTCrew said:
Its predominantly old guys who still live in the state that would be fine with 1-11. Like me.
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I'm not that old and I think this way. My dad's an auburn grad tho, I came out of the womb with this line of thinking.
 
Now that I know how he feels, I'm glad he's gone. I'd rather have a coach who wins two games but believes he can win the national championship at Tech one day, than a coach who wins seven games, but believes he can never win a national championship at Tech.

I always liked him, but he sounds more like a Paul Johnson man than a Tech man. All he did was talk about Tech's disadvantages, not a word about what makes Tech great. Maybe that's why he didn't recruit better.

He says the alums don't know the Foundation doesn't help athletics. Seems to me that it was part of his job to tell people about stuff like that. Says he was hired to win games, not put people in the NFL. Seems like a big time college coach can't do one without doing the other.

Love to know who all the Power Five schools seriously talking with him about jobs are. Six or eight while he was at Tech and two since he retired? Why didn't he take one of those offers and get away from Mission:Impossible and get that 80,000 seat stadium he wanted?
 
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson. Georgia Tech is a top tier athletic institution with a reputation that reaches around the globe.

Meanwhile, Alabama is known around the world (sports world I guess) as the equivalent in football.

If Alabama tried to compete with Georgia Tech in academics, you guys would all die laughing.

I think a lot of you don't realize what the typical 5 star kid is like. And I don't mean 5 star quarterbacks, I mean 5 star athletes. They barely qualify, get drool on their ACT, and have to have their high school coaches stay on their butts just to keep them eligible for HIGH SCHOOL.

Saban creates an entire staff who's job is to baby these guys until they're mature enough to go to class on their own and get their degree is general studies or recreational management. Those guys wouldn't stand a dog's chance of staying eligible at GT.

The key to winning is to do it different or do it better. I give GT all the credit in the world for doing it different with Johnson, and it paid off. But as I've said many times, you're never going to beat Georgia at their own game. You have to beat them the GT way, by being smarter. And like him or not, Johnson was smarter (talk to his peers in the coaching community if you disagree).

Collins is a great recruited and has been a successful defensive coordinator, but what worked at Temple won't work at Tech. He needs to hire an OC who thinks differently and isn't cookie cutter. Doesn't matter if it's run or pass, it can't be the same thing everyone else does.

GT will always be competitive because it attracts kids of the highest character, and those kinds of kids are hard to beat.
 
veerbone said:
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson. Georgia Tech is a top tier athletic institution with a reputation that reaches around the globe.

Meanwhile, Alabama is known around the world (sports world I guess) as the equivalent in football.

If Alabama tried to compete with Georgia Tech in academics, you guys would all die laughing.

I think a lot of you don't realize what the typical 5 star kid is like. And I don't mean 5 star quarterbacks, I mean 5 star athletes. They barely qualify, get drool on their ACT, and have to have their high school coaches stay on their butts just to keep them eligible for HIGH SCHOOL.

Saban creates an entire staff who's job is to baby these guys until they're mature enough to go to class on their own and get their degree is general studies or recreational management. Those guys wouldn't stand a dog's chance of staying eligible at GT.

The key to winning is to do it different or do it better. I give GT all the credit in the world for doing it different with Johnson, and it paid off. But as I've said many times, you're never going to beat Georgia at their own game. You have to beat them the GT way, by being smarter. And like him or not, Johnson was smarter (talk to his peers in the coaching community if you disagree).

Collins is a great recruited and has been a successful defensive coordinator, but what worked at Temple won't work at Tech. He needs to hire an OC who thinks differently and isn't cookie cutter. Doesn't matter if it's run or pass, it can't be the same thing everyone else does.

GT will always be competitive because it attracts kids of the highest character, and those kinds of kids are hard to beat.
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I'm sorry, we don't have enough juice to distribute to the CPJ-not-GT fans. But we've really appreciated your participation and support over the past eleven years, and now we wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and allegiances.
 
veerbone said:
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson. Georgia Tech is a top tier athletic institution with a reputation that reaches around the globe.

Meanwhile, Alabama is known around the world (sports world I guess) as the equivalent in football.

If Alabama tried to compete with Georgia Tech in academics, you guys would all die laughing.

I think a lot of you don't realize what the typical 5 star kid is like. And I don't mean 5 star quarterbacks, I mean 5 star athletes. They barely qualify, get drool on their ACT, and have to have their high school coaches stay on their butts just to keep them eligible for HIGH SCHOOL.

Saban creates an entire staff who's job is to baby these guys until they're mature enough to go to class on their own and get their degree is general studies or recreational management. Those guys wouldn't stand a dog's chance of staying eligible at GT.

The key to winning is to do it different or do it better. I give GT all the credit in the world for doing it different with Johnson, and it paid off. But as I've said many times, you're never going to beat Georgia at their own game. You have to beat them the GT way, by being smarter. And like him or not, Johnson was smarter (talk to his peers in the coaching community if you disagree).

Collins is a great recruited and has been a successful defensive coordinator, but what worked at Temple won't work at Tech. He needs to hire an OC who thinks differently and isn't cookie cutter. Doesn't matter if it's run or pass, it can't be the same thing everyone else does.

GT will always be competitive because it attracts kids of the highest character, and those kinds of kids are hard to beat.
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I began my GT fandom with Paul Johnson. But after a decade I’m not just gonna pick another team. We will win games again and run variants of the spread option or spread. Stay on the wagon. You might like it.
 
veerbone said:
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson. Georgia Tech is a top tier athletic institution with a reputation that reaches around the globe.

Meanwhile, Alabama is known around the world (sports world I guess) as the equivalent in football.

If Alabama tried to compete with Georgia Tech in academics, you guys would all die laughing.

I think a lot of you don't realize what the typical 5 star kid is like. And I don't mean 5 star quarterbacks, I mean 5 star athletes. They barely qualify, get drool on their ACT, and have to have their high school coaches stay on their butts just to keep them eligible for HIGH SCHOOL.

Saban creates an entire staff who's job is to baby these guys until they're mature enough to go to class on their own and get their degree is general studies or recreational management. Those guys wouldn't stand a dog's chance of staying eligible at GT.

The key to winning is to do it different or do it better. I give GT all the credit in the world for doing it different with Johnson, and it paid off. But as I've said many times, you're never going to beat Georgia at their own game. You have to beat them the GT way, by being smarter. And like him or not, Johnson was smarter (talk to his peers in the coaching community if you disagree).

Collins is a great recruited and has been a successful defensive coordinator, but what worked at Temple won't work at Tech. He needs to hire an OC who thinks differently and isn't cookie cutter. Doesn't matter if it's run or pass, it can't be the same thing everyone else does.

GT will always be competitive because it attracts kids of the highest character, and those kinds of kids are hard to beat.
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Huh? Bobby Ross did it. George O'Leary did it. Don't give me that " what worked at Temple won't work at Tech" nonsense. It can be done and it will again!
 
veerbone said:
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson.
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veerbone said:
Look guys. I'm an outsider. I came in with Paul Johnson, and I checked out with Paul Johnson. Georgia Tech is a top tier athletic institution with a reputation that reaches around the globe.

Meanwhile, Alabama is known around the world (sports world I guess) as the equivalent in football.

If Alabama tried to compete with Georgia Tech in academics, you guys would all die laughing.

I think a lot of you don't realize what the typical 5 star kid is like. And I don't mean 5 star quarterbacks, I mean 5 star athletes. They barely qualify, get drool on their ACT, and have to have their high school coaches stay on their butts just to keep them eligible for HIGH SCHOOL.

Saban creates an entire staff who's job is to baby these guys until they're mature enough to go to class on their own and get their degree is general studies or recreational management. Those guys wouldn't stand a dog's chance of staying eligible at GT.

The key to winning is to do it different or do it better. I give GT all the credit in the world for doing it different with Johnson, and it paid off. But as I've said many times, you're never going to beat Georgia at their own game. You have to beat them the GT way, by being smarter. And like him or not, Johnson was smarter (talk to his peers in the coaching community if you disagree).

Collins is a great recruited and has been a successful defensive coordinator, but what worked at Temple won't work at Tech. He needs to hire an OC who thinks differently and isn't cookie cutter. Doesn't matter if it's run or pass, it can't be the same thing everyone else does.

GT will always be competitive because it attracts kids of the highest character, and those kinds of kids are hard to beat.
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The one problem with that is I don't think anyone HONESTLY measure us against UGA or Bama. Some Tech fans do but it is an irrational emotion due to living in the same state with the dawgies.

We want to be better than Duke, UVA, Wake, etc. Be competitive or better than Tenn, USC and mid tier SEC schools. We don't need 5 star players but should get more 4 stars than Johnson did. You get to that consistent level and then if you sign a special QB or have a great year then you are competitive with Clemson and UGA.

I think O'Leary finished in the top 25 for 5 straight years. That is a great goal for GT. No one expects us to finish in the top 10 for 5 straight years. Both Gailey and Johnson were close to that level but not quite there: it was a game or two here or there. Gailey's "miss" was likely due to his risk free style and QB play; Johnson's was due to recruiting.
 
Walton said:
The one problem with that is I don't think anyone HONESTLY measure us against UGA or Bama. Some Tech fans do but it is an irrational emotion due to living in the same state with the dawgies.

We want to be better than Duke, UVA, Wake, etc. Be competitive or better than Tenn, USC and mid tier SEC schools. We don't need 5 star players but should get more 4 stars than Johnson did. You get to that consistent level and then if you sign a special QB or have a great year then you are competitive with Clemson and UGA.

I think O'Leary finished in the top 25 for 5 straight years. That is a great goal for GT. No one expects us to finish in the top 10 for 5 straight years. Both Gailey and Johnson were close to that level but not quite there: it was a game or two here or there. Gailey's "miss" was likely due to his risk free style and QB play; Johnson's was due to recruiting.
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The best assessment of Tech football I've read.
 
OK, O Leary had success, but it was a down period for college football as a whole, and no one outside of Atlanta doesn't consider Colorado the 1990 national Champs.

There won't be another period like that again. The bluebloods are committed to spending whatever it takes to stay on top.
 
veerbone said:
OK, O Leary had success, but it was a down period for college football as a whole, and no one outside of Atlanta doesn't consider Colorado the 1990 national Champs.

There won't be another period like that again. The bluebloods are committed to spending whatever it takes to stay on top.
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Um that’s dumb ass. They totally consider it split
 
Walton said:
The one problem with that is I don't think anyone HONESTLY measure us against UGA or Bama. Some Tech fans do but it is an irrational emotion due to living in the same state with the dawgies.

We want to be better than Duke, UVA, Wake, etc. Be competitive or better than Tenn, USC and mid tier SEC schools. We don't need 5 star players but should get more 4 stars than Johnson did. You get to that consistent level and then if you sign a special QB or have a great year then you are competitive with Clemson and UGA.

I think O'Leary finished in the top 25 for 5 straight years. That is a great goal for GT. No one expects us to finish in the top 10 for 5 straight years. Both Gailey and Johnson were close to that level but not quite there: it was a game or two here or there. Gailey's "miss" was likely due to his risk free style and QB play; Johnson's was due to recruiting.
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I don't agree with this sentiment. I absolutely believe GT can finish in the Top 10 for 5 straight years.

But the real reason for my response is to point out that while O'Leary did finish in the Top 25 for 5 straight years (with finishes of 25, 9, 20, 17, 24), what's more amazing is that his is the longest streak for final AP finishes in GT history. We finished ranked 10 of the 15 years from 1942 to 1956. Because of those 5 years of not being ranked ('45, '48-'50, and '54), we never had a ranked streak of more than 3 years until GOL came along. When you think about how many games we won in the 40's and 50's, that's kind of amazing.
 
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CiraldoForever said:
Now that I know how he feels, I'm glad he's gone. I'd rather have a coach who wins two games but believes he can win the national championship at Tech one day, than a coach who wins seven games, but believes he can never win a national championship at Tech.

I always liked him, but he sounds more like a Paul Johnson man than a Tech man. All he did was talk about Tech's disadvantages, not a word about what makes Tech great. Maybe that's why he didn't recruit better.

He says the alums don't know the Foundation doesn't help athletics. Seems to me that it was part of his job to tell people about stuff like that. Says he was hired to win games, not put people in the NFL. Seems like a big time college coach can't do one without doing the other.

Love to know who all the Power Five schools seriously talking with him about jobs are. Six or eight while he was at Tech and two since he retired? Why didn't he take one of those offers and get away from Mission:Impossible and get that 80,000 seat stadium he wanted?
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^Spot-on analysis. You could tell he was resigned to being a barely-above-0.500 coach with his popular 'meh' sayings like "It's never as good or as bad as it seems" and "It is what it is".

Ever hear Saban, Dabo, Spurrier, Urban or other championship-winning coaches mutter mediocre-acceptance, head-down crap like that?

PJ was a not-me guy. Mediocre recruiting, asinine play calls on 4th down, blown 20-pt home leads to the mutts....nothing was ever the guy's fault in a press conference.

It's good to have a guy here who embraces our advantages and believes we can be better rather than Coach IIWII.
 
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