Can the AA afford $1.8 million?

This is a curious thread to have after a win. I'll hold off judgement until the end of the regular season.
 
FWIW Law I think you're wrong. DRad is looking at this from a longer view and I think there are some things he needs to see or he will make a change. Not saying this year or that there's a specific record in mind, but if he thinks not making a move will hurt the program, he'll make one.
 
The situation is more than W's and L's. It about the state of mind of the fanbase. There's obviously at least a small faction that will never be happy with the current coach. The question is now how big will that faction grow with a 6th loss to UGA. It's about the fanbase and the RIGHT W's and L's.
 
the issue has been and WILL ALWAYS be can we upgrade.

If DRad runs Gailey off and brings in HIS guy I can accept that. But my feeling is if we go DOWN as a program he should be fired along w/ the coach that brings us down.

It was great going 7-1 and going to ACCCG, would have loved to go 14-0 and win MNC but it did not happen.

I also remember our record looking like Dukes.

I see where Hart at F$U is not being "resigned" as AD. I think the AD position has to be accountable when they replace a head coach. If CG leaves voluntarily then I would give DRad more latitude but fi he runs CG off he BETTER bring in an upgrade.

I remember losing to Furman. I also have seen some big wins over Auburn x 2 (ask UF if this is significant), Miami x 2, and VT.

If DRad can bring in someone who can do that and beat Ugag then sign him up.

But if DRad runs CG off then he should understand that his job will be tied to the guy he hires.

I think that is reality. The same people running CG into the ground will be calling for DRad's head if we go below .500 in the ACC in consecutive years.
 
ncjacket said:
FWIW Law I think you're wrong. DRad is looking at this from a longer view and I think there are some things he needs to see or he will make a change. Not saying this year or that there's a specific record in mind, but if he thinks not making a move will hurt the program, he'll make one.
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If you were DRad why would you ever fire CG in the current environment. It would be a huge risk that could cost you your job/reputation.

If DRad is smart he will ride CG either down below .500 or until CG leaves on his own.

To be successful at GT you will have to recruit better than CG and manage/coach better than CG (and that includes w/ Tenuta).

O'leary's success came after Fridge arrived and appeared to stall when Fridge left.

DRad can keep the status quo and keep cashing those checks. Just ask UNC what happenned when Mack Brown left? There program was in better shape than GT but now they are going on 5 yrs? of below .500 in the ACC.

If we get the right recruits (top notch QB) then GT can go far under the current coaching. That Arizona kid may be the one or maybe even Nesbitt.

We are finally getting kids from ATL. This did not happen under O'leary. GT is headed in the right direction.

I would be shocked if DRad put his career/reputation on the line to rock this boat, but on my job I see people do STUPID and/or FOOLISH things EVERYDAY.
 
If you're wondering why law_bee feels the way he does just remind yourself where he went to law school...
 
The reason we are having this discussion, aside from the fact that most are disappointed with Coach Gailey and his penchant for losing winnable games, is that NCAA athletics has become such a business that the Head Coach must be able to put a$$es in the seats. Gailey does not appear to be able to do that. The Tech Nation has yet to buy into the program with either ticket sales or A-T Fund contributions. They perceive, and I believe rightly so, that the program is stagnant. Unless, and until Coach Gailey shows otherwise--by first beating Georgia and playing in and winning a major bowl against a strong, reputable program--there is no reason to believe he can, or will ever do it.
 
Yukonwreck said:
The reason we are having this discussion, aside from the fact that most are disappointed with Coach Gailey and his penchant for losing winnable games, is that NCAA athletics has become such a business that the Head Coach must be able to put a$$es in the seats. Gailey does not appear to be able to do that. The Tech Nation has yet to buy into the program with either ticket sales or A-T Fund contributions. They perceive, and I believe rightly so, that the program is stagnant. Unless, and until Coach Gailey shows otherwise--by first beating Georgia and playing in and winning a major bowl against a strong, reputable program--there is no reason to believe he can, or will ever do it.
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There are many legitimate criticisms of Gailey. This is not one of them.

GT is selling more season tickets now and for more money than it ever did under GOL. I won't give Chan credit for the increase; the number of football-interested tech alumni has simply increased. He hasn't, however, driven away fans or dried up the A-T fund. Those are pure Buzzoff fabrications.
 
floridajacket said:
There are many legitimate criticisms of Gailey. This is not one of them.

GT is selling more season tickets now and for more money than it ever did under GOL. I won't give Chan credit for the increase; the number of football-interested tech alumni has simply increased. He hasn't, however, driven away fans or dried up the A-T fund. Those are pure Buzzoff fabrications.
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You have to say the Tech fund also helped. Does GT cap the number of season tickets available? Also, how many season tickets were sold and how does that compare to other universities?
 
GTKyle said:
You have to say the Tech fund also helped. Does GT cap the number of season tickets available? Also, how many season tickets were sold and how does that compare to other universities?
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I'm not sure but the Tech fund may have reduced the number of season tickets from last year. It only makes sense with such a big price increase. Still, if that happened, it would be the first time in a long time that the number of season tickets went down.

As for number of season tickets, I would guess Tech is around 35,000 while UGA would be around 80,000. It's hard for a school with a small alumni base in a big city to attract a lot of fans. Miami, for example, has about the same attendance we do with much, much more success on the field.
 
GTKyle said:
..Does GT cap the number of season tickets available? ...
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Yes, I think the cap is about 55,000 or so. If you want to buy more than 55,000 they'll work out a deal with you though. :laugher:

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
 
Law, the issue is whether the support and enthusiasm and money is there for the program. Gailey caught everyone's attention last year with the run to the ACCCG. But he lost some of it with another loss to ugag. What DRad has to evaluate is whether we're on the crest of the wave of support for the program or whether we're on the downside. If Gailey starts to be a drag on the program he's gone. And it doesn't take losing seasons for that necessarily. You can call it stupid if you like, but DRad is paid to make the decision before it's critical.

Oh, and I have to tell you, this "who would be better" stuff drives me crazy. Just as we could find a DC if Tenuta left, we can find a HC if Gailey is gone. Whether he will be better or worse can't be predicted. So not making a change because you're afraid the next guy might not be better is the stupid choice imo. If DRad thinks it's time, that won't be a consideration, nor should it be.
 
I'm not sure but the Tech fund may have reduced the number of season tickets from last year.
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We sold more season tickets this year than last year.
 
floridajacket said:
As for number of season tickets, I would guess Tech is around 35,000 while UGA would be around 80,000. It's hard for a school with a small alumni base in a big city to attract a lot of fans. Miami, for example, has about the same attendance we do with much, much more success on the field.
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UGa has 92,000 seats. 18,000 are for students and 8500 for visitors.
 
GTKyle said:
$1.8 million is approximately what it would cost to buyout CCG's contract after this season.
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The way I see it, you have to spend money to make money. Even a partially successful new coach could make that 1.8 back for us in a few years.
 
The way I see it, you have to spend money to make money. Even a partially successful new coach could make that 1.8 back for us in a few years.
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We already have a partially successful coach, one that already puts butts in seats, and one who we can feel extremely certain isn't going to choke and give us a losing season - and don't kid yourself, a losing season would dramatically reduce the number of butts in seats.

Say Chan wins 9, loses to UGA, Dan fires him, and hires some schmuck coordinator who only wins 4 the next season. Attendance would plummet, the AA would be back in the red, and the only people in the stands would be Buzzoffers waving "F U Chan" flags happy in their misery.

Chan should not be fired unless we've got a guaranteed "great" coach to replace him with, or we absolutely have to fire him for "too-many-losses-to-UGA" reasons, which unfortunately may end up happening this year anyway.
 
GTWannaBee said:
The situation is more than W's and L's. It about the state of mind of the fanbase. There's obviously at least a small faction that will never be happy with the current coach. The question is now how big will that faction grow with a 6th loss to UGA. It's about the fanbase and the RIGHT W's and L's.
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This post is so inane, it's scary. :eek:
 
Things to consider:

1) the top-notch recruits we are finally getting seem to really like Gailey
2) All GT losses over the last 4 years were to bowl-bound teams.
3) GT has one of the best ACC records over the last several years.
 
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