CFP Format & Fixes Thread

GTLiebs said:
As opposed to punishing teams for simply existing in conferences deemed lesser? I get what you mean about deserving and all, but the problem is that if the byes are completely controlled by subjective ranking, it still won't in reality be about who deserves to have it. At that point, the only way a team like GT could achieve a bye is to go undefeated and hope there aren't any 1 (or even 2) loss SEC/Big 10 teams to jump us with their more "deserving" conference slate.

I'll definitely agree with you that 16 (or 8 would be my preference) that results no bye BS at all is better.
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He’s not a Braves fan, he’ll never get it. Time for the head pat and bless your souls.
 
Remove the byes and trim back to 8 teams. Otherwise we are going to end up with march madness part duex in the effort to achieve perfection. Just accept the fact that anyone not in the SEC or BIG gets shafted.
 
There is no reason to expand it more. There are only 4 time slots on a weekend. More means at least one 8 game weekend. That will just mean some shitty side games with no ratings. It is all about teevee. Going past 16 means some teams would have to play FIVE games to win it. That is almost half the regular season.

As far as I know Clemson is STILL the only ranked OOC team that the SEC has beat, but they have done it 3 times. They are likely to go 1-1 this coming week because UGAG doesn't have their QB and ND looked a LOT better vs. us than they did.
 
With the way conferences are set up, and with ESPN throating the SEC all season long, you're probably not going to get a much better system than what's in place right now. Nobody should be surprised by blowouts in any round of any playoff system. 6 of the last 10 national championship games were decided by three scores or more. Another one was decided by 15. There hasn't been a single score game since 2018. And this is after the pretenders have supposedly been winnowed out. If you're expecting even half of the games to be nail biters, no matter what the format is, you're going to be disappointed.

I would have loved for one of the ACC teams to pull it out, but watching TN get their shit kicked in brought joy to my cold, dead heart.

Focusing on fixes to the post season is just treating the symptom anyway. The problem lies with with things like the SEC instructing their officials to put their thumbs on the scales and the ESPN mouthpieces like Herbstreit putting the SEC's dick all the way into their collective mouths. If the goal is a level playing field, multi-year contracts with the players, a third party, national officiating organization with no ties to ESPN or any conference, leveling the TV payouts to the conferences, and coach and player salary caps are where you start.
 
Honestly, Clemson really should have been the 5th seed, thats probably the only change Id make.
 
LaFlavor said:
With the way conferences are set up, and with ESPN throating the SEC all season long, you're probably not going to get a much better system than what's in place right now. Nobody should be surprised by blowouts in any round of any playoff system. 6 of the last 10 national championship games were decided by three scores or more. Another one was decided by 15. There hasn't been a single score game since 2018. And this is after the pretenders have supposedly been winnowed out. If you're expecting even half of the games to be nail biters, no matter what the format is, you're going to be disappointed.

I would have loved for one of the ACC teams to pull it out, but watching TN get their shit kicked in brought joy to my cold, dead heart.

Focusing on fixes to the post season is just treating the symptom anyway. The problem lies with with things like the SEC instructing their officials to put their thumbs on the scales and the ESPN mouthpieces like Herbstreit putting the SEC's dick all the way into their collective mouths. If the goal is a level playing field, multi-year contracts with the players, a third party, national officiating organization with no ties to ESPN or any conference, leveling the TV payouts to the conferences, and coach and player salary caps are where you start.
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JTS said:
Conferences should be seeded to determine the bracket. The conference championship should be the first round of the playoff that feeds into the bracket.
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Use this, and go to 12 conferences of 12 teams each, all roughly regional. Teams play 11 in conference games and 1 OOC.
 
JTS said:
Conferences should be seeded to determine the bracket. The conference championship should be the first round of the playoff that feeds into the bracket.
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Then, make it a breach of contract for any media entity with broadcasting rights to reference, create their own, etc. a preseason/midseason or non-CFP committe sourced poll. The CFP committee should be barred from using any such preseason/midseason poll prior to Week 8 (or whenever they roll out their own for the first time).

Ditch the "quality loss" bullshit.
 
Each D-1 conference that meets a minimum number of members sends their champion to the playoffs. Each conference can determine their champion however they want (regular season record, championship game, highest ranked team, etc...). For conferences that use a championship game, it is effectively the first round of the playoffs.

There should be one at-large which will cover independents and others.

Conferences and at large should be seeded prior to any championship games.
 
For the first time since Jim Phillips took over as ACC commissioner, he finally has a great idea for the future of the CFP. Problem is, it would only be for 1 year - 2025. Starting in 2026, the B1G & sec no longer need the ACC, B12, ND and G5 reps to approve CFP changes.

But for 2025, the below is a good idea.

“Conference championship weekend is important, with a lot of TV revenue at stake. Phillips suggests having second and third-place teams battle it out, likely being a play-in game. A regular season champion would be declared and get the conference’s AQ spot in the CFP.”

So in 2024, SMU would have been AQ. Clemson-Miami would have played for a shot at the 2nd ACC team getting in.

www.on3.com

Jim Phillips suggests major change to College Football Playoff, conference championship formats

ACC commissioner Jim Phillips suggested a major change to conference championship weekend, mixed with the College Football Playoff.
www.on3.com www.on3.com
 
USCJacket said:
For the first time since Jim Phillips took over as ACC commissioner, he finally has a great idea for the future of the CFP. Problem is, it would only be for 1 year - 2025. Starting in 2026, the B1G & sec no longer need the ACC, B12, ND and G5 reps to approve CFP changes.

But for 2025, the below is a good idea.

“Conference championship weekend is important, with a lot of TV revenue at stake. Phillips suggests having second and third-place teams battle it out, likely being a play-in game. A regular season champion would be declared and get the conference’s AQ spot in the CFP.”

So in 2024, SMU would have been AQ. Clemson-Miami would have played for a shot at the 2nd ACC team getting in.

www.on3.com

Jim Phillips suggests major change to College Football Playoff, conference championship formats

ACC commissioner Jim Phillips suggested a major change to conference championship weekend, mixed with the College Football Playoff.
www.on3.com www.on3.com
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Clever but I don't like it. Conference champions would often come down to ugly tiebreakers under that scheme, like who is ranked highest in the polls. And often the champion would be the team that dodged toughest opponents. Conference champions should have to earn it by playing for the championship.

Then again, college football used to not have conference championship games and it worked just fine. Maybe we shouldn't care too much about conference championships. Conferences are losing their meaning in the expansion era, expanding so much that they lose any regional or other coherent identity.
 
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