CFP Format & Fixes Thread

Clever but I don't like it. Conference champions would often come down to ugly tiebreakers under that scheme, like who is ranked highest in the polls. And often the champion would be the team that dodged toughest opponents. Conference champions should have to earn it by playing for the championship.

Then again, college football used to not have conference championship games and it worked just fine. Maybe we shouldn't care too much about conference championships. Conferences are losing their meaning in the expansion era, expanding so much that they lose any regional or other coherent identity.

The NFL has kept adding in wild cards and diminishing the value of a divisional championship and, IMO, has now watered it down too much. You play home and home round-robin in your division so if you win it, you deserve a first round bye. Narrowing it down to where only the top team in each conference gets a bye when you have unbalanced schedules is a joke.
 

Phillips said the ACC could consider giving its regular-season champion a bye, and have the teams that finish second or third in the league standings play in the ACC championship game.

He said another possibility is having the top 4 teams play on the final weekend of the regular season: first place versus fourth place, and second place vs. third place, with the winners playing the following weekend in the ACC championship game.

Jesus. This looks like an active attempt at getting only one team in CFP. Jesus.
 



Jesus. This looks like an active attempt at getting only one team in CFP. Jesus.
It’s actually Phillips playing chess while media blow hard Sankey is playing checkers. It more or less guarantees the worst P4 league (ACC) 2 teams in the CFP for at least 1 more year. While also saying Sankey is being combative if not agreed upon.
 
It’s actually Phillips playing chess while media blow hard Sankey is playing checkers. It more or less guarantees the worst P4 league (ACC) 2 teams in the CFP for at least 1 more year. While also saying Sankey is being combative if not agreed upon.
It’s ööööing retarded is what it is. A conference championship game where the #2 and #3 teams play an extra game to decide who is actually #2? It’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

JRjr
 
It’s ööööing retarded is what it is. A conference championship game where the #2 and #3 teams play an extra game to decide who is actually #2? It’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

JRjr
Not true. Conference schedules (regardless of conference. See Texas) are not created equal now. There are no divisions anymore. So #1-#3 are all subjective. So it’s actually a brilliant idea by Phillips. It guarantees a weak ACC 2 teams in the CFP for at least 1 more year. This will piss Sankey off.
 
Not true. Conference schedules (regardless of conference. See Texas) are not created equal now. There are no divisions anymore. So #1-#3 are all subjective. So it’s actually a brilliant idea by Phillips. It guarantees a weak ACC 2 teams in the CFP for at least 1 more year. This will piss Sankey off.
What? How does it gaurantee shit? If anything it weakens the #1 seed that didn’t win a championship game. You think if we were a 3 loss ACC team last season, finished third, and beat SMU in the ACC Losership game we’d be automatically in?? It’s not a ööööing championship game anymore. This is actually one of the most retarded things I’ve read.
 
The NFL has kept adding in wild cards and diminishing the value of a divisional championship and, IMO, has now watered it down too much. You play home and home round-robin in your division so if you win it, you deserve a first round bye. Narrowing it down to where only the top team in each conference gets a bye when you have unbalanced schedules is a joke.
The actual games show this to be wrong.

There was maybe one game that was not competitive till the last quarter.

Of the 2 teams with byes, 1 won and 1 lost.

Lots of lower seeds upset higher seeds and lots of higher seeds won.

It’s been a great playoff with more interesting games than several years of college football playoffs put together.
 
The actual games show this to be wrong.

There was maybe one game that was not competitive till the last quarter.

Of the 2 teams with byes, 1 won and 1 lost.

Lots of lower seeds upset higher seeds and lots of higher seeds won.

It’s been a great playoff with more interesting games than several years of college football playoffs put together.

Did I say anything about competitiveness?

But since you bring it up, the NFL has built their system on promoting parity, so "on any given week" you see "weaker" teams win.

So wat's the point of a 17 (soon to be 18) game season? Just throw them all in up front, randomly seed and make the entire season be a playoff.

MLB is the worst. Play 162, win a division and get knocked out by a wild card with 2 starting pitchers that won 83 games. Real excitement.

CFB is heading down this path. Regular season means nothing, just generate cash from the playoffs.
 
Did I say anything about competitiveness?

But since you bring it up, the NFL has built their system on promoting parity, so "on any given week" you see "weaker" teams win.

So wat's the point of a 17 (soon to be 18) game season? Just throw them all in up front, randomly seed and make the entire season be a playoff.

MLB is the worst. Play 162, win a division and get knocked out by a wild card with 2 starting pitchers that won 83 games. Real excitement.

CFB is heading down this path. Regular season means nothing, just generate cash from the playoffs.
Viewership going up, so not many fans are butthurt like you.

About last year's playoffs:
NFL Playoff Games: The NFL playoffs and conference championship games have drawn the highest viewership average on record since 1988. The AFC Championship game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens averaged 55.47 million viewers, while the NFC Championship game between the San Francisco 49ers and the Detroit Lions averaged 56.69 million viewers. These figures represent significant increases from the previous year.
 
Viewership going up, so not many fans are butthurt like you.

About last year's playoffs:
NFL Playoff Games: The NFL playoffs and conference championship games have drawn the highest viewership average on record since 1988. The AFC Championship game between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens averaged 55.47 million viewers, while the NFC Championship game between the San Francisco 49ers and the Detroit Lions averaged 56.69 million viewers. These figures represent significant increases from the previous year.

Playoff viewership. And viewership should be measured in share, not total numbers, to account for total viewer population.
 
Playoff viewership. And viewership should be measured in share, not total numbers, to account for total viewer population.
You are simply wrong

2023: The NFL had a significant increase in viewership, marking one of the most-watched seasons in league history.

2024: The league experienced a slight decrease in viewership, averaging 17.5 million viewers per game across all networks, which is a 2.2% drop from 2023. Despite this dip, the NFL continued to dominate television ratings.

2025 (to date): As of January 2025, the NFL’s viewership numbers are still strong, with game broadcasts averaging 17.3 million viewers through Week 10, which is the highest figure since 2015. However, this figure does not include viewership from international games on NFL Network or exclusive streaming broadcasts on Peacock and ESPN+.
 
To avoid the rust problem the bye can cause for the four best teams I would propose going to sixteen teams. And, rather than adding more at large teams (this year that would have been Alabama, Miami, Ole Miss and South Carolina), I would include all nine conference champions. So, the Committee simply ranks teams, and for each conference champion not in the top sixteen you have to drop one of those sixteen teams. I would not give conference champions automatic top four seeds.

This year it would have looked like this:
1 - Oregon vs 16 - Ohio, 8 - Indiana vs 9 - Boise State
4 - Penn State vs 13 - Army, 5 - Notre Dame vs 12 - Clemson
2 - Georgia vs 15 - Jacksonville State, 7 - Tennessee vs 10 - SMU
3 -Texas vs. 14 - Marshall, 6 - Ohio State vs 11 - Arizona State

The top 4 lose byes but get a home game against a pretty weak opponent - they don’t have to play a team that played a week earlier while they have been off three and a half weeks. They get the $$$ from parking, tickets, concessions and the benefit to the local economy. Every conference champion gets their shot. You get the David vs Goliath games that have always sparked March Madness interest. And, you still have some compelling games in Week 1.
 
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