CG quoted as saying recruiting is not a problem

TechNUTT,
As usual you full of crap.
FSU went after Wimbush as hard as they have ever went after a player. Roof just did a magnificent job on Recardo.
If you think that we only get players because UGAG or FSU doesn't want them then you are just plain ignorant....which is pretty damn obvious to a lot of us.

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Originally posted by FAN OF BOBBY DODD:
Beeware why don'you respond to all Tech said. Is it because he has your number on this.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I already showed that a large part of what he said was a flat out falsehood...no further response is warrranted for the conspiracy freak.
You O'leary bashers are just unappreciative pissants because he wouldn't kiss your arses.
And if you really are a fan of Bobby Dodd then you already know that Buck is certainly no Bobby Dodd.

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beeware, in all honesty you haven't proven anything other than your upset and angry. You make good points, but go about it in the wrong way IMO. You bash others for having opinions, and you get upset if anyone doesn't agree with your opionion. It's ok for you to have a differing opinion, but it's not alright for anyone else.

Roof and Coach O'leary did a great job recruiting. Instead of saying what you think is true or not why don't you ask Wimbush or his family. They are super people. They'll tell you straight up why Reco came to GT. You sit in LW. His family is on the north side of LW always wearing buttons. His older brother looks just like him. Very nice guy.
 
Terr,
Instead of your constant cryin' an' whinin'...shouldn't you be giving us some super-secret report on how green the grass is at BDS??

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beeware, can't you come up with something new?

For all stingtalkers, how was my post to beeware "cryin' and whinin'?"
 
GTT your post was right on as usual; Beeware no one is comparing CG to BD, and probably won't until he starts punting on third down at times. I grew up on Dodd coaching Tech football and saw him coach during my freshman year. Quit using the tired old debating tactic of begging the question and get on to something of more substance and relevance. By the way, have you started circulating a petition to have drownproofing reinstituted as a graduation requirement?

THWG!! FEAR THE JACKETS!!

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Original Topic: "CG quoted as saying recruiting is not a problem"

You guys started out on a tangent and stayed there.

I heard CG make that exact comment on one of the two radio call-in shows before the Vandy game. UConn newspaper guy must have ripped of 790. The caller seemed concerned that Tech has only 3 commitments and they were out of state. It was obvious from the context and tone of his voice that CG was only trying to ease the callers concern, not conveying any hidden meaning or agenda. If he made any meaningful comment like "Don't worry, UgaG only has 3 and by the way F$U has just 4 and one of those is a kicker", the NCAA would have given Tech a call before he got back to his office from the restaurant that the show is broadcast from. He was only trying to say that our problem at that time was to start the season and have success on the field.
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We were told when Buck was named head coach that it didn't matter how long he stayed with Miami....that it wouldn't hurt recruting because all the recruits would flock to Tech to play for Buck...especially since Buck was from Georgia that he would really recruit well in Georgia.
At least so far this has not been the case....the recruits seemed to run the other way and we had a hard time even getting our quota last year even though we had 8 committs to start with.
And now, we have few early committs....some other teams already have up to 15 committs and we have 3 or so....and not many of the Georgia recruits even list TECH as a possibility.
Coach O'leary and his tremendous staff were great recruiters.....just look out on the field. Coach O'leary and staff had made tremendous inroads in Georgia.
So a lot of the unappreciative pissants that constantly bash Coach O'leary are trying to downplay his recruiting ability since Buck looks like a bust so far in recruiting. Well it won't play because anyone with two eyes can look out on the field and see what a recruiter that O'leary was.
So far at least, Buck doesn't appear to have a clue. Let's hope that winning with O'leary's players will help Buck recruit.
Bottom line is the line of drivel that we were sold about how all the recruits would flock to Buck because he was a pro coach is just that....drivel.
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We will win with Buck or in spite of Buck....at least as long as O'learys recruits last.
 
Beware, with all due respect, I'm really starting to realize how incredibly clueless you are. Do you not realize that O'Leary was a primary reason we went 8-5 last year? I think that's obvious to everyone but you.
I only have one question for you.
What difference does it make to have the ability to lure a player to your school, if, by the time they play for a year or two, your dumbass playcalling and overall asshole attitude has made them care less than a damn about playing for you?
You're writing Chan Gailey off before even giving him a chance. I think that's pretty stupid.
 
Beeware, no one was selling us on how recruits would flock to Gailey. I think you must have bought it anyways.

All I heard was how our recruiting WOULD be hurt...because of:

1. O'Liar and his little bio scandal
2. O'Lame and his horribly disappointing 8-5 record
3. O'Leaving QUITTING and going to ND

If you didn't notice, Gailey didn't do much recruiting. He kept his commitment to the Dolphins, and had his assistants try to patch things up. O'Leary left us with some great talent fromyears past, but this year he really screwed up our recruiting class.

I think our assistants did an INCREDIBLE job to keep the recruits we have, especially ones like Bridges that are seeing quality PT as a true freshman.
 
Jacket1515 on top of that beeware is already giving O'leary credit for any of Gailey's success.

O'leary brought GT back from the pitts. He's gone now. We have a new coach. All the bashing doesn't help Georgia Tech what so ever.

To be honest most people outside of the coaches themselves don't know how many commitments we have anyway.

Totally agree with CP. I heard the call and Coach Gailey's comment just like a lot of people here. CP Jacket is right the Coach Gailey was getting the focus back at the task at hand that he could really talk about and that was playing and winning a game on Sat.
 
The bottom line is that Coach O'leary was a great recruiter and a great coach...he brought a great staff in and he recruited a great team....just look on the field Saturday.
For you unappreciative pissants to try to deny this is ludicrous....just as ludicrous as trying to claim that Buck is Bobby Dodd before he had even coached a single game or recruited a single player.
Buck may or may not be a good coach....he may or may not be a good recruiter....he may or may not do a good job at TECH....but to deny what O'leary has already accomplished at TECH is the mark of a bunch of small-minded, anal-retentive, unappreciative pissants.
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Coach O'leary did do a great job recruiting and did do a great job coaching most of the time he was here. IMO a GREAT DEAL OF THE time he was here at Tech. I didn't see a great team on the field last year against Clemson, Maryland, UVA, FSU, and UGA. I don't think a lot of that was due to talent. Some of it was and injuries, but a lot of it had to do with coaching. Those were 5 bad games. The coaches knew it and players knew it. It's in the past. The team rebounded and Coach Mac with the rest of the coaches and players did a great job in Seattle. They should all be commended.

There have been some font being unappreciative of O'leary sure, but not many at all. Most I've seen are very appreciative of him as a person and as a coach.

One things for sure is there is one that is very unappreciative or anything and everything Coach Gailey does. Sure Coach is just getting started while having a lot to prove, but one person on two boards isn't giving him a chance. He's unappreciative of every single thing he does and has done. It sounds like deep hatred.

I have no worries about last years recruiting class. Think the coaches did a great job under the circumstances. Really like what I saw out of ALL the players recruited, the ones committed both early and late. Bridges, Reis, and Gillium are making impacts on the field now. To continue to bash the recruiting class is simply being unappreciative of the coaches bringing in the players we have while putting down the players recruited at GT. Mathews, McNair, Gillium, Reis, Pullen, Brazina, and the entire crowd of Jackets are here to win championships and get a degree for Georgia Tech.
 
Beeware, a couple of points about your post. First, before you start preaching to everybody the gospel from the book of O'leary, you need to get a couple of things straight. First, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but O'leary himself was not God's gift to recruiting. As a matter of fact, he almost stunk at it. Ask anyone who is/was close to the program who will give you an honest answer (and I have talked to multiple people), and they will tell you that all O'leary ever did was show up and put the piece of paper in front of their faces. I do credit O'leary, however, with putting together a solid staff of recruiters who were very good at their job. Secondly, part of O'leary's success was due to exactly what Technician stated earlier. Georgia was having problems with Donnan and GT was on the up and up. I'm not saying the FSU's, the Clemson's and all the other good recruiting schools didn't go after our guys...they did. It just so happened that we had an excellent staff and the in-state card to play. Lastly, you absolutely cannot discredit Gailey's recruiting ability based upon last season.
"At least so far this has not been the case....the recruits seemed to run the other way and we had a hard time even getting our quota last year even though we had 8 committs to start with."
With the entire "scandal" that was going on at the time, virtually no one could have made that a solid recruiting class. I remember watching our verbals drop like flies as each athlete was contacted. The fact is, the program was in turmoil at the time and to ask these young kids to come to GT instead of FSU or anywhere else for that matter was a hard sell.
 
TERR,
As usual you are completely mistaken...I have NEVER bashed this recruiting class. I am very appreciative of the players we got. It is a complete figment of your imagination for you to say that I have bashed this class...I have not.
What I have said is that I see NO evidence that Buck is some grand recruiter...and we did miss some key recruits that kept an open mind until after he was hired and then went elsewhere. The recruiting class is not as good as it would have been if O'leary had stayed, or especially if the Seattle Bowl staff had been retained as they SHOULD have been. But that is not taking anything away the players we got in this recruiting class.
Terr, I knew you couldn't spell...but it becoming apparent that you don't read that well either.
 
cwjacket - great post. O'Leary and and more importantly his staff did a great job of recruiting at Tech and it remains to be seen how Gailey and his staff will perform - I will certainly with hold judgement. My biggest concern at this point is not the ability but the recruiting STRATEGY that this staff appears to be taking. Everything I have heard points to a national, academic recruiting strategy. It is almost impossible to win consinstently with that strategy, ask Duke, Northwestern, Stanford, basically anyone except ND.
 
Originally posted by beeware:
The recruiting class is not as good as it would have been if O'leary had stayed
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">He DIDN'T stay. He deserted us. Or have you forgotten? The Seattle Bowl staff you love so much would have left us too, if O'Leary didn't get busted.

The fact remains, the recruits left us because of O'Leary. They were his recruits to begin with, or his assistants. Some were quoted as saying they wanted to follow him to ND. Others went with Kelley. Others simply said they didn't know what they wanted to do.

We had a number of factors working agaist us:
1. We didn't name a coach until very late in the process.
2. There was a MAJOR scandal at Tech that rocked the face of sports forever...we're still seeing the repercussions.
3. The coach the originally recruited the kids left the school he was hyping so much, not even bothering to coach his last game there. What does that tell the kids?
4. No one knew if any of the assistants were going to be around or if they were following GOL. If you're a recruit, it helps if you know who you're going to play for.

You say we have no evidence that Gailey is a good recruiter...I say that salvaging the class we have is evidence enough. His assistants are good recruiters, you can't deny that. They are all well known for recruiting. I'm very satisfied with the state of our program, and it's recruiting.
 
Personally I think we will be fine in the recruiting area. Georgia is number four or five on the list of states with players that are recruited while Texas, Florida, California, and Ohio are either ahead of or even with Georgia. Chan looks like he can recruit Texas already and we have several recruits from Florida looking at us.

The main problem for Tech is our offered degrees... we don't have Forest Technician, Sports Management, Chair Stacking Tech, or some of the other degrees that some of the other Southern Universities offer. If a kid wants a great education and a degree that is worth it's weight in gold Chan will have no problem recruiting that kid to Tech.

Some of you are a little hard on Coach Gailey and he really should be given a chance before we proclaim he cannot recruit.

Also how can we be last on SAT's when so many kids are Honor Students (at least according to the bumper stickers on their parents car)?

Peace.

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Originally posted by Technician:
Let's face it. O'Leary got big name recruits in the state of Georgia like Daryl Smith, Hobie Holiday and Recardo Wimbush because it was already rumored that Donnan was out of favor at UGA. The dawgs didn't look as strong, the 'Noles didn't go after these guys as strong, Tech was at least winning, so they went with us.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Baloney. Donnan was a great recruiter and not even Dooley thought he was "out of favor" right up until Adams fired him.

O'Leary was an absolute tonic for GT football. He's gone now, beeware.
 
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