Chadwell and his spread option

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We are all hearing a lot of buzz around Chadwell as a potential HC candidate. Curious to know from the scheme gurus on this board on how his offense is that different from Monken's at Army or other triple option derivatives.
 
MACHETE said:
We are all hearing a lot of buzz around Chadwell as a potential HC candidate. Curious to know from the scheme gurus on this board on how his offense is that different from Monken's at Army or other triple option derivatives.
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No scheme expert here but I saw a lot of pitch plays out of shotgun. Maybe that’s because they want to throw more but have the ability to run those type of run based option plays. Very interesting
 
MACHETE said:
We are all hearing a lot of buzz around Chadwell as a potential HC candidate. Curious to know from the scheme gurus on this board on how his offense is that different from Monken's at Army or other triple option derivatives.
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Chadwell’s offense centers around the backfield with a variety of different looks that showcases 20 and 21-personnel. A running back typically lines up next to the quarterback, while one tailback is behind the signal-caller in a pistol formation. The offensive line has pulling guards with inside and outside zone blocking. The quarterback will read the defensive end within an RPO to determine whether a handoff should be made, to attack the perimeter in the run game or to find a one-on-one matchup in the passing game.

“The jobs that I have taken over have been rebuilds. I had to go in there and really try to completely change the mindset and a culture.” — Jamey Chadwell

FWIW: Chadwell beat Monken this year. Here is the FB game you should be able to see the difference in schemes.
 
GTCrew said:
He is going to get a shot and is going to make this post look stupid.

You probably would have said the same thing about friedgen's offense in the early 1980s.
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Don’t presume to know what I did or didn’t know in the mid 1980s. I was one of the boots on the ground at the time and I knew more than I will ever post here.

If you think I’m off base about my view of Chadwell then fine. We can debate publicly in the Court of Stingtalk.

But don’t question my right to express an opinion in this forum. I paid my dues to Georgia Tech and I’ll put my resume up against your or anyone else’s anytime.
 
00Burdell said:
Don’t presume to know what I did or didn’t know in the mid 1980s. I was one of the boots on the ground at the time and I knew more than I will ever post here.

If you think I’m off base about my view of Chadwell then fine. We can debate publicly in the Court of Stingtalk.

But don’t question my right to express an opinion in this forum. I paid my dues to Georgia Tech and I’ll put my resume up against your or anyone else’s anytime.
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MACHETE said:
We are all hearing a lot of buzz around Chadwell as a potential HC candidate. Curious to know from the scheme gurus on this board on how his offense is that different from Monken's at Army or other triple option derivatives.
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I remember listening to an interview with Chadwell. He basically said that his offense looks a lot like the CPJ flexbone, but it didn't share any history. Basically it evolved some similar concepts but started from a completely different place.

I think Chadwell is a brilliant football coach. I just question if our boosters and (half of our) fans base can deal with another option coach.

Personally, I would love it.

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Definitely check out a Coastal game before you make a judgement. It's a very cool system. I personally think it looks a lot more like a modern RPO (what you'll see today at Clemson and Bama) than CPJ's system. For one, there is a lot more passing in his system. But there are still some similarities under the surface to a traditional option attack.

TL;DR - I don't really understand lumping in Chadwell with the "pure option" crowd based on what I've seen so far, but I'm happy to go watch more tape.
 
00Burdell said:
Don’t presume to know what I did or didn’t know in the mid 1980s. I was one of the boots on the ground at the time and I knew more than I will ever post here.

If you think I’m off base about my view of Chadwell then fine. We can debate publicly in the Court of Stingtalk.

But don’t question my right to express an opinion in this forum. I paid my dues to Georgia Tech and I’ll put my resume up against your or anyone else’s anytime.
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fatmike91 said:
I remember listening to an interview with Chadwell. He basically said that his offense looks a lot like the CPJ flexbone, but it didn't share any history. Basically it evolved some similar concepts but started from a completely different place.

I think Chadwell is a brilliant football coach. I just question if our boosters and (half of our) fans base can deal with another option coach.

Personally, I would love it.

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F that other half. I want orange bowls, ACC championships, and mutt humiliation back. The other half isn't as smart as their degrees lead on.
 
GTROY said:
Definitely check out a Coastal game before you make a judgement. It's a very cool system. I personally think it looks a lot more like a modern RPO (what you'll see today at Clemson and Bama) than CPJ's system. For one, there is a lot more passing in his system. But there are still some similarities under the surface to a traditional option attack.

TL;DR - I don't really understand lumping in Chadwell with the "pure option" crowd based on what I've seen so far, but I'm happy to go watch more tape.
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Agreed. They average 258 yards per game this season in the air and 200 on the ground. It's a much more balanced and modern offensive approach IMO.
 
GTROY said:
TL;DR - I don't really understand lumping in Chadwell with the "pure option" crowd based on what I've seen so far, but I'm happy to go watch more tape.
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There are those who find Bob Davie's commentary illuminating. Seems to me that Chadwell represents something we hoped Paul Johnson's tenure would lead towards, at least as far as on-field philosophy/scheming/"identity" are concerned.
 
GTROY said:
Definitely check out a Coastal game before you make a judgement. It's a very cool system. I personally think it looks a lot more like a modern RPO (what you'll see today at Clemson and Bama) than CPJ's system. For one, there is a lot more passing in his system. But there are still some similarities under the surface to a traditional option attack.

TL;DR - I don't really understand lumping in Chadwell with the "pure option" crowd based on what I've seen so far, but I'm happy to go watch more tape.
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Any coach who runs one option play per game sadly gets lumped in like that by some.
 
GTROY said:
Definitely check out a Coastal game before you make a judgement. It's a very cool system. I personally think it looks a lot more like a modern RPO (what you'll see today at Clemson and Bama) than CPJ's system. For one, there is a lot more passing in his system. But there are still some similarities under the surface to a traditional option attack.

TL;DR - I don't really understand lumping in Chadwell with the "pure option" crowd based on what I've seen so far, but I'm happy to go watch more tape.
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Is it like what Pat White ran at West Virginia? So the Rich Rod offense?

It is an option offense just out of the shotgun but most people really only know enough to know that running your offense from under center is not cool.
 
Walton said:
Is it like what Pat White ran at West Virginia? So the Rich Rod offense?

It is an option offense just out of the shotgun but most people really only know enough to know that running your offense from under center is not cool.
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Sounds like what friedgen had Shawn Jones run to perfection. Defending friedgen was like playing whack a mole. No way to plug all the holes.
 
GTCrew said:
Sounds like what friedgen had Shawn Jones run to perfection. Defending friedgen was like playing whack a mole. No way to plug all the holes.
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Like how I have to bring along a half dozen of my buddies when I go to your mom's. Even then, rolls count as holes, and there are a lot left unplugged.
 
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