Chadwell and his spread option

MACHETE said:
We are all hearing a lot of buzz around Chadwell as a potential HC candidate. Curious to know from the scheme gurus on this board on how his offense is that different from Monken's at Army or other triple option derivatives.
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A lot more shotgun, a lot more passing, but defense can read the option better if not blocked correctly (which Coastal doesn't seem to have a problem with.)
 
I would also view some games from his time at Charleston Southern. His current offense at Coastal is modified a little bit to accommodate his QB. Charleston Southern is a tiny private college with an enrollment of 3,400 or so, and they were very good when Chadwell was there. I think the only time Charleston Southern every made the FCS playoffs was under his watch. If he can recruit that, surely he can recruit GT?

Here's one of him taking down #1 Coastal Carolina back in 2015 or so. You'll see a little bit of everything - pitches, passes, qb keeps. Often times it looks like the veer in shotgun but it's more than that -



Many a GS fan nearly rioted when Chadwell was passed over for HC and GS proceeded to make their own CGC hire. But GS ran a pretty similar look under Fritz that almost beat GT and took UGA to overtime. Chadwell's version is also known as midline option, speed option..



There's a lot to be excited about with Chadwell's version of the option, imo
 
Very informative, thanks all. Now the question is, do we want this offense at GT and will recruits want to play in it?
 
fatmike91 said:
I remember listening to an interview with Chadwell. He basically said that his offense looks a lot like the CPJ flexbone, but it didn't share any history. Basically it evolved some similar concepts but started from a completely different place.

I think Chadwell is a brilliant football coach. I just question if our boosters and (half of our) fans base can deal with another option coach.

Personally, I would love it.
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If you look at the stats you will see that they throw the ball much more that Coach Johnson ever did on the flats. Chadwell does run the Spread Midline Option when he runs the ball. But that is really it as far as being close to CPJ. He also has RPOs he that he calls and they are more effective than CDP RPOs ever were.

2022 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers Stats (team is 4-0)
Passing
Grayson McCall 70.4% 1001yds 11TDS 1Ints 191.2

Rushing
CJ Beasley 60 345yds 5.8 1TDs
Reese White 36 245yds 6.8 1TDs

Receiving
Sam Pinckney 22 336yds 15.3 1TDs
Jared Brown 14 253Yds 18.1 2TDs
Tyson Mobley 11 129yds 11.7 3TDS
 
Coastal Carolina head football coach Jamey Chadwell joined "The Rally" to break down the improvements made to the Chanticleers' offense and defense for the 2022 season


 
2020 CCU Offensive Breakdown
This is an in depth study of how Coastal Carolina University was able to use their triple option attack, along with deadly play action, to rise to a top 25 team in the nation in 2020. CCU has just recently made the jump to FBS in the past few years and has already had a top 25 finish.

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2020 CCU Offensive Breakdown by X and O Film Junkie | CoachTube

This is an in depth study of how Coastal Carolina University was able to use their triple option attack, along with deadly playaction, to rise to a top 25...
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Walton said:
Is it like what Pat White ran at West Virginia? So the Rich Rod offense?

It is an option offense just out of the shotgun but most people really only know enough to know that running your offense from under center is not cool.
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Im convinced that if CPJ had run the exact same offense out of shotgun it would have been less effective and the casual Tech/other fan would have liked it more.

I still think we need something to level the playing field as advantages for factories continue to grow. We’ve got to be running something different, whatever that may be.
 
MACHETE said:
Very informative, thanks all. Now the question is, do we want this offense at GT and will recruits want to play in it?
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Running under center triple option is not cool by today's football standards, but disguising it with some RPO is. Having the media label an offense with "triple option" or something thereof is akin to cancel culture in the recruiting world. Chadwell has avoided that. The media has labeled his offense as fun - because well, it is.
 
GTFLETCH said:
If you look at the stats you will see that they throw the ball much more that Coach Johnson ever did on the flats. Chadwell does run the Spread Midline Option when he runs the ball. But that is really it as far as being close to CPJ. He also has RPOs he that he calls and they are more effective than CDP RPOs ever were.

2022 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers Stats (team is 4-0)
Passing
Grayson McCall 70.4% 1001yds 11TDS 1Ints 191.2

Rushing
CJ Beasley 60 345yds 5.8 1TDs
Reese White 36 245yds 6.8 1TDs

Receiving
Sam Pinckney 22 336yds 15.3 1TDs
Jared Brown 14 253Yds 18.1 2TDs
Tyson Mobley 11 129yds 11.7 3TDS
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This is a good quote from Chadwell. I think he would do great here.

“The reason why we like to run the offense that we do, you don’t have to have the best linemen in the country to win games,” Chadwell said. “You don’t have to have the best receivers in the country to win games. Every job that I have had has been a rebuild. We’ve had to develop and recruit talent that fits your system.

“Part of the reason that we like to do the offense, is it gives you a chance to win games. We were probably the eighth most talented team out of ten in our league — and won the league this year. Part of that is because you get kids to buy into your scheme and your system, and they fit that. We can do a variety of different things. Recruiting is not hard for it, you just have to find the right guys that want to fit into what you do.”
 
charlestonscjacket said:
This is a good quote from Chadwell. I think he would do great here.

“The reason why we like to run the offense that we do, you don’t have to have the best linemen in the country to win games,” Chadwell said. “You don’t have to have the best receivers in the country to win games. Every job that I have had has been a rebuild. We’ve had to develop and recruit talent that fits your system.

“Part of the reason that we like to do the offense, is it gives you a chance to win games. We were probably the eighth most talented team out of ten in our league — and won the league this year. Part of that is because you get kids to buy into your scheme and your system, and they fit that. We can do a variety of different things. Recruiting is not hard for it, you just have to find the right guys that want to fit into what you do.”
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How many years in was this quote? Says hes bottom 3 in talent in the league at that point.
 
G776T said:
How many years in was this quote? Says hes bottom 3 in talent in the league at that point.
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Probably his Charleston Southern days. Coastal Carolina hasn't been bottom 3 in the league since he's been there.
 
Walton said:
Is it like what Pat White ran at West Virginia? So the Rich Rod offense?

It is an option offense just out of the shotgun but most people really only know enough to know that running your offense from under center is not cool.
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There is definitely some of that included. We even run some read option out of the shotgun some this year, although the quality of the reads makes me wonder how serious we are about it. Watching Chadwell's offense, you'll see some of that, with some diamond-based triple option, and a fair bit of run-pass option stuff as well.
 
We need good coaching and players who can execute. Get that first and the scheme doesn't need to be anything tricky or "different from the others".

We shouldn't need a gimmicky scheme to make FGs, get punts off in less than 3 seconds, have passes connect with WRs, make open-field tackles, etc.
 
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