Chan had better be careful....

cyclejacket said:
We have played 40 seasons since Bobby Dodd retired. Unfortunately, I can name the years we beat them without looking it up. We have won 11 times over that 40 year period, a winning percentage of 27.5%.
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I do not guess I need to point out the massive change in the college game since Dodd was coach.

The student-athlete is quite different now...and definitely has a different focus. Back then...a college degree was worth more than the NFL.
 
If you want to look at our record against UGA in recent times, how about the 3-4 record the previous coach had? We were 5-7 during the Ross + O'Leary tenures with 0-3 during Lewis years. When we have a good coach we seem to be able to play right there with them.

Gailey is the only HC we have ever had to lose 5 in a row to UGA.

Jim Donnan only had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games at UGA. Gailey has only had 1 season in 5 years with 8 or more wins. JIM FREAKIN DONNAN!!!! If this doesn't prove it is easier to win at UGA then nothing will. Strictly speaking as a coach and not as a person, Gailey's flaws seem to have paralleled Donnan's in a lot of ways.
 
With the risk of bieng called a defeatest. When the mutt's have had GOOD COACHING IN PLACE we have NEVER been able to beat them with any consistentcy.
I believe there are many different reasons for it and all have been discussed in this fourm so no need to go over it again.
If you can show me one time in HISTORY we have been able to beat them more than 3 out of 10 under those circumstances I'd love to see it.

BTW The mutt's hated GOL because he beat them 3 times but They hated Donnan more because HE had the PLAYERS to beat us and didn't.
 
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JTS said:
If you want to look at our record against UGA in recent times, how about the 3-4 record the previous coach had? We were 5-7 during the Ross + O'Leary tenures with 0-3 during Lewis years. When we have a good coach we seem to be able to play right there with them.

Gailey is the only HC we have ever had to lose 5 in a row to UGA.

Jim Donnan only had 1 season where he won fewer than 8 games at UGA. Gailey has only had 1 season in 5 years with 8 or more wins. JIM FREAKIN DONNAN!!!! If this doesn't prove it is easier to win at UGA then nothing will. Strictly speaking as a coach and not as a person, Gailey's flaws seem to have paralleled Donnan's in a lot of ways.
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And O'Leary never beat Ray FREAKING Goff. One time with a 14 point lead at halftime. Ain't statistics fun!
 
JTS said:
Gailey is the only HC we have ever had to lose 5 in a row to UGA.
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That is ridiculous....I agree. We definitely should have won 2 of those 5.

I think in 4 of those 5 games the game plan has been solid and the playcalling has been solid. Unfortunately, RB was always too emotional for this game and he plays even worse when he loses his head....and shame on the coaching staff for not having more flexibility in terms of personnel at this position.

That is water under the bridge now...and more is going forward than going backward....I will not agree with anyone 100% of the time and there is no silver bullet.
 
JTS, Coach Dodd lost to them 5 in a row 59 thru 63.
I can't remember for sure the dates but that isn't the only other time.
 
That is ridiculous....I agree. We definitely should have won 2 of those 5.
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I'd call this year a definite, and each of the previous two years a 50/50, purely on QB play, so yeah. I'll buy that. Shoulda won 2 of the 5.

JTS, Coach Dodd lost to them 5 in a row 59 thru 63.
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Fire Dodd!
 
RickyReck said:
JTS, Coach Dodd lost to them 5 in a row 59 thru 63.
I can't remember for sure the dates but that isn't the only other time.
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You are correct.

Amended to: First to go 0-5.
 
RickyReck said:
JTS, Coach Dodd lost to them 5 in a row 59 thru 63.
I can't remember for sure the dates but that isn't the only other time.
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Not so fast my young friend, on the contrary, Dodd's 1961, 1962 and 1963 teams all beat Georgia. I am pretty sure it was Billy the Kid Lothridge that was the quarterback and he just ate Georgia's lunch.
 
Dodd lost to UGA 1957-1960 (4 games), beat them 61-63 and loss to them 64-66, but he never lost 5 in a row to them. When you guys can't even get historical facts straight, it makes everything you say look foolish. You could at least check your facts in the media guide, but you probably don't give enough to the AT fund to get one.
 
Back to the original point of the thread, the Pittsburg interview is an even bigger blow to his support at GT. The Miami interview could be rationalized away as a unique sitiuation, as Wes did on 790. 2 interviews can not.

I still feel that many of his biggest supporters weren't that sold on him as a coach, but loved that he had embraced GT and was here for the long haul, to build a progam. This crowd is not going to be so loyal anymore.
 
GTwig, I apoligise for not giving as much as you that must be the reason my copy is stained but you're right I did mis read the record it was 64 thru 68.
I want you to know without fail I'll right a bigger check next year. I hope you'll find it in your heart to forgive me.
I guess I do need a new pair of glasses,if I can afford it.
 
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goldmember said:
Back to the original point of the thread, the Pittsburg interview is an even bigger blow to his support at GT. The Miami interview could be rationalized away as a unique sitiuation, as Wes did on 790. 2 interviews can not.

I still feel that many of his biggest supporters weren't that sold on him as a coach, but loved that he had embraced GT and was here for the long haul, to build a progam. This crowd is not going to be so loyal anymore.
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Not true.

The big problem is many people just cannot accept the fact that football is a career for coaches and players....unlike the fact it is something emotional (a game) for us as fans. We already have a career.

Just like it made since for Calvin to leave the Georgia Tech family early....it could make since for any coach to do so.

CG's current package is a lot of money...he would make just over $5 million over the next 5 years. However....two companies that he knows and is comfortable with is talking packages worth $15-$20 million probably over 5 or 6 years. That is a substantial difference that can financially secure his family for 2 generations....and his kids are grown so they do not even have to endure a family move.
 
mm42 said:
I've been a loyal GT employee for 20 years, but if someone comes to me with a job that would triple my pay, I will be listening. I guess that means I have no character.
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Do you not think that gailey has sat down in a living room or two and made statements to recruits and their parents giving them the impression that he will be around for a good, long time?

Well, then why do you (referring to gailey) make statements that you won't be going anywhere anytime soon if you don't mean it? That's called character.
 
I don't see how it's any harder to rationalize the 2nd interview than the 1st. Chan actually had better success at Pittsburgh than Miami anyways, and the fans probably like him more.
 
LongforDodd said:
Do you not think that gailey has sat down in a living room or two and made statements to recruits and their parents giving them the impression that he will be around for a good, long time?

Well, then why do you (referring to gailey) make statements that you won't be going anywhere anytime soon if you don't mean it? That's called character.
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you have no clue what he tells recruits.
 
well the best we can hope for is that it works out favorable for both sides......
A friend of mine who used to be a manager for Ross Perot's old IT Company told me once.....That he used to encourage his subordinates to interview for a new job at least once a year. He said it did two things for them.
1. Opened their eyes to new opportunities & exposed them to something better (job & or higher income)
2. It made them realize that their position wasn't as bad as what they thought & they were a happier employee having gone through that exercise...Grass isn't always greener (somewhere else).
That was some time ago. Pretty radical of an idea if you ask me...But he said the out come in the long run was positive for both sides. I hope we can say the same when the dust settles w/ Tech & Gailey.

Anyway, in summary. I hope that things move forward at a rapid pace so everyone involved will know the reality of what we're facing. Good luck to Chan. Best of Luck to GT....hope the negative impact of the "job shopping" on the recruits is ZERO or kept to a small number....B/c you know our enemies are using it against us as we speak (type).
 
goldmember said:
I don't think he get's the job and he is erodinng support from within his base. Some of his strongest supporters respect him as much for his character and loyalty as much as they do his coaching ability. This is bothering that crowd more than his QB development.
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I'm ambivalent on Chna but don't think this hurts us in anyway unless he leaves and most of his staff goes with him. We need contunuity and stability at all levels. If we lose 3-4 assistants this late, it would very damaging. losing chan is not a huge deal if we have a Whisenhunt, jimbo, type hire who keeps the vast majority of the staff in place.

I fear we hire Paul Johnson and he cleans house and we have 2-3 years of mediocrity which we have to accept as we wait to see if he can succeed at GT. Hiring a HC who wants to bring his won staff in at this time should not be an option unless we're talking Spurrier, Tubberville, etc. and I'm sure the big name uys are not options.

IOW, I'm concerned if he leaves as there is great risk with the synergy of the program, recruiting now, and to next year's team's potential.
 
I know I'm a nobody, but if Chan goes, Fisher will be in here in a matter of hours not days.

Mark it down. Dreams of Whisenhunt or Paul are just that.
 
GTCrew or hivered what's your take on why the other schools looking this year haven't been on Paul Johnson?
 
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