Chris Hatcher

..because clearly he's brought Vanderbilt to THE NEXT LEVEL and clearly away from the mire of MEDIOCRITY.

lol.

There are many replacements I could deal with. Bobby Johnson is not one of them.
 
gatorbuzz said:
He'd be 80 miles from his family (and his wife's) - we'd never lose this guy. Family is a big deal to Chris.



Hatcher's not itching to leave Statesboro. If we stick with Gailey another year I think Hatcher is still an option - though his value will be higher. If we make a change not involving Hatcher we'll miss our opportunity.
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Unless he has some incredible love for GT, I think he owuld be gone in less than 5 years. He left his alma mater where he was a hero. He goes to his dream job at GSU and after one season if he would even consider leaving then you better believe the second an SEC school called and offered him a 50% raise, he would be so gone from GT.

I would love to have a lifer at GT but I don't see how anyone stays for life at GT unless they truly love the school and understand exactly what it is. Hatcher is a Southern football coach. south CAR, Clemson, Auburn, Bama, TN, UGA, UF, FSU, etc. would all be much more appealing to him than GT.

I think we would start slowly with him, maybe 6-6, 7-5 and then we would flourish to 10-2 or so. And then he would leave to be HC at auburn or Bama or UT.

GT needs someone with Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame type credentials that knows and actually likes the concept of a student athlete.

Just my opinion of course.
 
thwg said:
GT needs someone with Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame type credentials that knows and actually likes the concept of a student athlete.

Just my opinion of course.
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I kind of agree with you, but there is really no way of knowing about somebody. I don't think ND fits into your point very well as it is one of the highest profile jobs in all of college sports.

I'm not so sure that if a coach turned Stanford and N'Western into over night successes, those coaches might not stick around when there is more money and prestige on the line.

Even if a coach left after a few 10-2 type years, the program would still be much better for having such a coach as our program would be getting national recognition and a higher profile. Leaving the program much better off than when you came is a success IMO.

Hell, even St. Gailey tried to jump ship last year for a "better" job.
 
Unless he has some incredible love for GT, I think he owuld be gone in less than 5 years. He left his alma mater where he was a hero. He goes to his dream job at GSU and after one season if he would even consider leaving then you better believe the second an SEC school called and offered him a 50% raise, he would be so gone from GT.
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That's reality, though. The big bonus for getting Chan was supposed to be that he might end up a lifer, having already pretty much done everything at every level, but then last year came around and dispelled that.

Long term retention does not need to be a deciding factor on who we hire. That's just how modern football is.
 
beej67 said:
That's reality, though. The big bonus for getting Chan was supposed to be that he might end up a lifer, having already pretty much done everything at every level, but then last year came around and dispelled that.

Long term retention does not need to be a deciding factor on who we hire. That's just how modern football is.
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I mean, Miles may leave LSU. They already lost Saban. If they can't keep a coach why are we worried about doing it? We need a coach who's commited ot builidng a program that will get him noticed and targeted by the bigger boys. If we do that, we should have good years, and leave the program ready for the next guy to push further.
 
beej67 said:
..because clearly he's brought Vanderbilt to THE NEXT LEVEL and clearly away from the mire of MEDIOCRITY.

lol.

There are many replacements I could deal with. Bobby Johnson is not one of them.
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He's pretty dang close. Achieving mediocrity at Vanderbilt is a helluva success. You do realize they haven't gone bowling since like '82? Vandy has improved drastically since Bobby Johnson took over. They beat Wake and they're bowling.
 
knox said:
They beat Wake and they're bowling.
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Wait, umm, hold on. I think I've got a response here someplace. Oh yeah...

knox said:
I doubt anyone here sees the Car Care, Nut, or Music City bowl as a good thing.
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:P

Just yanking your chain, Knox.

Nevertheless, the big complaint against Gailey isn't that he can't make a bowl game. It's that he can't "Turn the Corner" and can't beat Georgia. If that's the complaint, then you gotta stick that in the hiring criteria. Vandy has neither turned a corner, nor have they beaten Georgia, and they get as many cracks at em as we get.
 
thwg said:
Unless he has some incredible love for GT, I think he owuld be gone in less than 5 years. He left his alma mater where he was a hero. He goes to his dream job at GSU and after one season if he would even consider leaving then you better believe the second an SEC school called and offered him a 50% raise, he would be so gone from GT.

I would love to have a lifer at GT but I don't see how anyone stays for life at GT unless they truly love the school and understand exactly what it is. Hatcher is a Southern football coach. south CAR, Clemson, Auburn, Bama, TN, UGA, UF, FSU, etc. would all be much more appealing to him than GT.

I think we would start slowly with him, maybe 6-6, 7-5 and then we would flourish to 10-2 or so. And then he would leave to be HC at auburn or Bama or UT.

GT needs someone with Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame type credentials that knows and actually likes the concept of a student athlete.

Just my opinion of course.
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First, nobody knows how long anyone will stay. Ill make a bet that Urban Meyer doesnt stay at UF, Stoops at OK, Saban at AL, Spurrier at USC, etc etc.
I just want a high quality, offensive minded (versus offensively offensive), high energy coach that gets the team, fans, alumni, media, etc involved again at GT. RIght now the team is isolated because of Gailey, his insecurities, etc and the alumni is divided, tired, bored.
2nd- THe concept of student athlete starts with making sure that they get an education no matter- which starts with making sure they at least go to class. I mentioned there were 19-20 on probation when he got to GSU. He has made sure those kids have turned their lives around and it starts first in the classroom which starts from #1 DIscipline at the top and being able to relate to kids. He gets it.
I want someone who knows how to win, win the right way, disciplined (none of this "they are grown men" bs we hear now,) can recruit our kids, and winning helps that as well.
Southern Football Coach? Great! I want someone who can relate, has great relationships with the Southern HS Football Coaches! Where else are you going to recruit- Everyone in the country recruits here. With GIFF SMITH (a southerner as well) we are making inroads, and with Hatcher we would be full throttle. Plus, his exciting philosophy is like WVA or Spurrier's and thats how we will get better. By the way, I believe he and Tenuta are friends from the Coaching circuit (ala Friedgen/O'Leary)
Talk to anyone who knows this guy and you would get the same way. I believe DRAD would to. Just my opinion as well but be open-minded on this guy he is the real deal.
 
From everything I have read and seen, he seems like exactly what we need. Great offensive mind (where have I heard that before though?), great in roads in the state for recruiting, great with media/fans, and young. What are our realistic possibilities of at least bringing him in for an interview. Do we think he is on DRads short list? Demjackets, what do you think?
 
Vandy has neither turned a corner, nor have they beaten Georgia, and they get as many cracks at em as we get.
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Vandy beat UGA last year...so at least they have that over Chan.
 
Bobby Johnson was hired the same year as Gailey. He has beaten UGA and broke a 22-year losing to his in-state rival (just about beat them this year too). I doubt Gailey could have done what Bobby Johnson has done at Vanderbilt.
 
beej67 said:
Wait, umm, hold on. I think I've got a response here someplace. Oh yeah...



:P

Just yanking your chain, Knox.

Nevertheless, the big complaint against Gailey isn't that he can't make a bowl game. It's that he can't "Turn the Corner" and can't beat Georgia. If that's the complaint, then you gotta stick that in the hiring criteria. Vandy has neither turned a corner, nor have they beaten Georgia, and they get as many cracks at em as we get.
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Actually they have beaten Georgia and they have turned a corner, but now they're trying to turn another corner.

They've gone from perennial doormat to the type of team that can beat a UGA, a USC, or a UT and is damn close to moving up into the world of being bowl eligible.

They had UGA and UT dead to rights again this year and let them slip off the hook. Bobby Johnson is actually building something.
 
Outside of unrealistic, dream candidates, I don't think that there is anyone that we could hire that would excite me more than Hatcher.

It might take him some time to adjust to D-IA ball, but he has the recruiting connections and coaching fraternity connections to make the jump successful. And heck, we gave Gailey 4 years to figure out how to be a D-IA HC. If we give Hatcher 4 years, I think he will make more of the opportunity.

Not that I think it will play a part in the decision, but Hatcher would probably come cheaper than the other candidates mentioned. He would probably take a $750-850K package with promises for a raise if he is successful.

I am concerned that if we bring in Hatcher that Giff Smith will be new HC at GSU and I would really like us to keep Giff around.
 
thwg said:
GT needs someone with Stanford, Northwestern, Notre Dame type credentials that knows and actually likes the concept of a student athlete.
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I strongly disagree with this. We need someone that can coach, recruit, and stays on top of the kids academics. Doesn't matter what their background is.

Recruiting is the same at virtually all of these schools. Some have larger pools than others but the process is the same.
 
JTS said:
Outside of unrealistic, dream candidates, I don't think that there is anyone that we could hire that would excite me more than Hatcher.

It might take him some time to adjust to D-IA ball, but he has the recruiting connections and coaching fraternity connections to make the jump successful. And heck, we gave Gailey 4 years to figure out how to be a D-IA HC. If we give Hatcher 4 years, I think he will make more of the opportunity.

Not that I think it will play a part in the decision, but Hatcher would probably come cheaper than the other candidates mentioned. He would probably take a $750-850K package with promises for a raise if he is successful.

I am concerned that if we bring in Hatcher that Giff Smith will be new HC at GSU and I would really like us to keep Giff around.
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Giff Smith wants a job as Coord, HC, etc-of course, your goal in life is not to be recruiting coordinator (its a proving ground.) Id let the chips fall wherever we can, but a change is better than this status quo, boring, lethargic coach and program we have at this point. Its time now. Remember, according to Chan the Man-this was his most talented team- heck, he didnt even use the most talented players!
 
The AD that hires Hatcher as their head coach will go down in history as a freaking genius.

This guy is just waiting to be discovered.
 
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