CPJ Contract, FWIW

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When CPJ signed his extension after 2014, we changed the terms, FWIW.

For every season up to 2017, he was entitled to his full compensation (up to $2.97m this year) if fired. But for seasons 2018, 2019 & 2020... he's only entitled to $1m per year.

I'm not in favor of a coaching change, but I thought it might aid the discussion of our situation to know what the actual buy-out cost is.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
CPJ's the best there is, was, or ever will be. We should stop playing football when he retires in 30 years. Please ban OP.
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Don't get the please ban OP part but I do believe CPJ is the right man and gives us the best chance to win. Now having said that the school and administration need to help. They need to give him the same tools as other schools. Same facilities and other stuff that he needs to recruit. I'll be the first to admit we at GT have a limited amount of majors and not everyone wants to be a engineer, but I would like to see the school expand the subjects they offer. I know as a fan for my entire life when it came college time I did not choose GT because they did not offer my major that I wanted to study. Even though that is where I wanted to go all my life it just did not work out. I was recruited to play by Tech but they just did not have what I wanted to study. Now I know everyone does not think like I do but I know one thing for sure, we're not playing on a equal playing field as the rest of the schools. Never have and probably never will.
 
Ptjackets said:
Don't get the please ban OP part but I do believe CPJ is the right man and gives us the best chance to win. Now having said that the school and administration need to help. They need to give him the same tools as other schools. Same facilities and other stuff that he needs to recruit. I'll be the first to admit we at GT have a limited amount of majors and not everyone wants to be a engineer, but I would like to see the school expand the subjects they offer. I know as a fan for my entire life when it came college time I did not choose GT because they did not offer my major that I wanted to study. Even though that is where I wanted to go all my life it just did not work out. I was recruited to play by Tech but they just did not have what I wanted to study. Now I know everyone does not think like I do but I know one thing for sure, we're not playing on a equal playing field as the rest of the schools. Never have and probably never will.
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Other than waterfalls, adult playgrounds, and other extraneous crap, what are we missing facilities wise?

We have a relative new IPF.
Locker room is getting a renovation
Weight room just got a renovation.
Athletes have their own dining hall

What else can we do? It’s not like we’re in the middle of a cow pasture where we can build random junk to keep a bunch of kids occupied with toys when they should be studying anyways.
 
If we’re going to be sarcastic, can we at least make sure the conversation tracks?

@RamblinWreck92 and @bonham lay down some textbook mocking of diehard CPJ supporters. Then @daBuzz misinterprets the latter’s comments, going off on an ill-advised tangent. I guess some credit is due to @H-town for yes-anding the flub to try and salvage it, but it’s too little too late.

Come on Stingtalk, you’re better than that.
 
Given that it was a stretch to pay even Gregory's modest buyout, pretty much any amount is gonna be prohibitive. CPJ will coach out his contract or walk away himself if he thinks its no longer working.

Useful to remember that as maddening as the UVA and Duke games were, we are still a couple breaks away from having a "typical" Tech season. It is what it is?
 
GoJackets89 said:
I think he means if we got a better coach. The coach would be an up and commer, and use Tech as a stepping stone.
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You know the thing about a girl who was just using you to get to the next hotter guy? You still get laid in the process.
For an up-and-comer to be offered by a program that's considered more prestigious than yours, that means he's winning.

Yeah, you're right. I can see how that would suck.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Given that it was a stretch to pay even Gregory's modest buyout, pretty much any amount is gonna be prohibitive. CPJ will coach out his contract or walk away himself if he thinks its no longer working.

Useful to remember that as maddening as the UVA and Duke games were, we are still a couple breaks away from having a "typical" Tech season. It is what it is?
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A couple of breaks and/or coaching adjustments
 
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bonham said:
We're not going to do better than PJ. Get over it. If we do, he'll be gone to a higher level program in a heartbeat.
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Wew, vad.

If our "equalizer" offense keeps shitting the bed coming out of halftime and he doesn't make competitive adjustments, then there's no point in having him here. It doesn't matter how bad the defense is playing because there's all but a direct correlation that he's at fault for that, too. We played better on that side before him and we've chewed through three DC's in his tenure with similar results.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Useful to remember that as maddening as the UVA and Duke games were, we are still a couple breaks away from having a "typical" Tech season. It is what it is?
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Admittedly, my coaching experience is in baseball and not football. But in the more than 1000 games I've coached, it has been my experience that good teams traditionally "get more breaks" or are "luckier".

People like to trot out the saying that "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." And while that is sometimes true (not always), there is a converse side to that which usually goes unspoken. "When both teams work hard, talent usually wins out."

So maybe our lack of breaks is either a lack of coaching, talent, etc?
 
daBuzz said:
You know the thing about a girl who was just using you to get to the next hotter guy? You still get laid in the process.
For an up-and-comer to be offered by a program that's considered more prestigious than yours, that means he's winning.

Yeah, you're right. I can see how that would suck.
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I didn't write it, he did. I'd take the wins, but it's not ideal to be a stepping stone. It'd be tough to hold on to a good coach that runs a more conventional offense unless Tech expands it's curriculum and gets more money.
 
daBuzz said:
Name one higher level program that you think would hire him.
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I believe he meant that if we hire a coach better than PJ, that the hypothetical coach would leave for a better program. I agree with that sentiment. Whether you want to believe it or not, if some previously unknown coach showed up and had back to back 10 win seasons at Tech, he’d be gone for a bigger football school.
 
Dirty Jacket said:
I believe he meant that if we hire a coach better than PJ, that the hypothetical coach would leave for a better program. I agree with that sentiment. Whether you want to believe it or not, if some previously unknown coach showed up and had back to back 10 win seasons at Tech, he’d be gone for a bigger football school.
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And yet you still get the back to back 10 win seasons. You've convinced me that I don't want that. You're obviously right.
 
daBuzz said:
And yet you still get the back to back 10 win seasons. You've convinced me that I don't want that. You're obviously right.
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So let's just line up the best up-and-commer every 3 to 4 years, sounds feasible. Some people like consistency, which Tech has lacked since the 60s.
 
RamblinWreck92 said:
CPJ's the best there is, was, or ever will be. We should stop playing football when he retires in 30 years. Please ban OP.
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OP is discussing coaching change without being a giant puss. I know this is a tough distinction for the puss posters on here, but it's one worth making.
 
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