CPJ Mad Bro

Old-Fashioned UGA Hater said:
Look in the mirror dude. You're the epitome of a disgruntled whiney little B tech fan.
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This is called psychological projection.
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I loved Johnson. He was a great game day coach but his weakness in playing the recruiting game and unwavering support of Sewak shows his humanity. I still like the guy, but he should understand Collins has shown huge restraint when it comes to talking about what the program became. Any other coach hired would have blasted CPJ and his system way worse than Collins has done. Collins having been at GT before showed much respect. I’m sure CPJ didn’t like the first play of the spring game but come on. He can’t be that thin skinned. If anything Johnson could help GT and Collins instead of acting like a spurned older child. Johnson‘s own actions of retiring unexpectedly shows he knew it was time.
 
PJ was the best X’s and O’s guy since Fridge. Dude knows his stuff—-that-for-sure. The 2nd half comeback in Athens his first trip there was awesome. I was a soaked and wet but loved it. Roddy is still running wild!
 
Diseqc said:
Johnson was handed a highly talented team in 2008.
Collins was handed a team full of undersized a-backs.
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To be fair CPJ made the talent he was handed look like the next Bo Jackson and a Heisman Candidate. I remember thinking Pitt got the most under rated player in the draft.
 
00Burdell said:
I thought the first play of the Spring game last year was a tribute? Did I misunderstand?
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It was a tribute and was received as such.

As much as people blast Johnson for recruiting, he wasn’t that bad. The OL and abacks are system specific players. They aren’t going to be wanted or needed in other systems like they are in the flexbone.

Bobinski screwed the program by putting no money into recruiting. We were bottom of the conference in funding and it showed.

Where Johnson failed wasn’t in recruiting players so much, but was in working the alumni. His personality just didn’t make people want to give. He got on the wrong side of some former players and couldn’t recover (and didn’t seem to try). Collins has done a very good job working the alumni. Having worked with GOL and Gailey gave Collins a good start with former players. You can leverage those players to work the big money alumni (and some are those players). He has done a great job opening wallets. That is really what the program needed. We are too small to have a divided giving pool.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
PJ was the best X’s and O’s guy since Fridge. Dude knows his stuff—-that-for-sure. The 2nd half comeback in Athens his first trip there was awesome. I was a soaked and wet but loved it. Roddy is still running wild!
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Totally agree. But his weaknesses kept him from taking the next step in his career. Just some day I want GT to have a coach who is an X’s and O’s coach who can recruit and won’t run away at the first opportunity.
 
WracerX said:
It was a tribute and was received as such.
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I know that’s what they tried to sell it as after the fact and I’m sure that’s what Collins meant it to be. But, I was there behind the team and everyone in the stands gave it the “oh snap, no he didn’t“ response because while it may have been intended one way it came across as the other. And ever since CPJ has been antagonistic.
 
Old-Fashioned UGA Hater said:
This has been beaten to death but there's not really much to compare between what the two inherited and Clemson and Georgia were not perennial top 5 programs to start the year. Hate to say it too but I will. If CPJ was here in 2019 he wasn't sniffing anything on your list either. Hence him moving on. It wasn't fun anymore.
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If we are speaking in hypotheticals, the I would say he probably would not have gotten beat by The Citadel either...I was trying to focus on positives.
 
OptionJacket said:
I know that’s what they tried to sell it as after the fact and I’m sure that’s what Collins meant it to be. But, I was there behind the team and everyone in the stands gave it the “oh snap, no he didn’t“ response because while it may have been intended one way it came across as the other. And ever since CPJ has been antagonistic.
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Then people are stupid. What other reason would he have to do it?
 
BuzzLaw said:
PJ did more with CG players than CG did.

PJ did more with PJ players than GC did.

The question is whether GC can do more with GC players, and that answer will start to show this season.

Trash talk and blaming aside, win the games and everything else is forgotten.
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That’s arguable.
Chan Gailey coached almost entirely under scholarship restrictions. Pretty much the moment those restrictions were removed he went ahead and recruited one of the most epic recruiting classes tech has seen in decades. And that recruiting class was immediately available to CPJ but Gailey never got a chance to use it.
Also, using CPJ’s metrics, Chan Gailey had 0 losing ACC (or overall) seasons.
 
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