Dabo done went off on a caller

He attracted and retained kids because they saw value in being a part of a positive culture at a winning program. That is the #1 reason Clemson got to the top of the mountain.

Now, the wheels are coming off a little bit, because Clemson has missed badly on skill talent for a few years straight. As someone who follows both teams closely, I would take GTs offensive skill players over Clemson’s in a heartbeat. To compound that, Dabo doesn’t use the portal (it would hurt the culture) and isn’t willing to go all-out on NIL like most factories are. He was openly anti-NIL and one of the more outspoken coaches about wanting to preserve amateurism in football.

You really believe that an incredible influx of talent was going to buttcrack, SC because of a goofy guy's "culture"? Clemmons is done under Dabo then if he won't be using the portal or NIL. Pretty hilarious that a coach making $11 million a year thinks that there is anything about college football is amateurism.

They don’t appreciate all the success that my assistant coaches and paid players brought! is how I read his whining. Now that his coaches are gone and they can’t pay players under the table we’re seeing his real value.

Clemson fans really shouldn't be critical given the past decade that Clemson has enjoyed. But yes, Clemson seems to be on a downswing a bit from those lofty heights now that the payments have moved from under the table to above it (and of course, no longer having a 1st round NFL QB on the roster).
 
If Dabo thought he had done a good job, he would never react like that. After he ran up the score on Tech and had his son throwing a 4th down 50-yard hail Mary pass in the last seconds of a game he was leading 57 to 6 or something in Atlanta, I said to Hell with him and Clemson. I decided I would pull against Clemson in every game they ever played in any sport after that, even if they were playing Georgia. Clemson began its epic decline right after that, and I have enjoyed every game they lost. I hope they never win again. I'm sure that fan was saying what many of their fans are thinking. The way Dabo handled it was text book stupid. He just told half their fans to go somewhere else. One day they will want all the fans they can get.
maybe this why jbatt didnt try to "protect" this rivalry.
 
He failed last Saturday. I've watched him fail at Bobby Dodd, he's 3-3 there and doesn't even have a winning record on The Flats. Maybe that's a tie but it includes 3 fails. WTF is he talking about he's never failed?
yeah i didnt have too much issue with response till this part. not even on topic of question anymore, and hitting pride comes before the fall on the head. pure unfiltered arrogance not a good look. clemsum fans better buckle up.
and also, not saying i agree with NIL, but how can you in good conscience disagree with paying players making that kind of money straight off their back.
 
You really believe that an incredible influx of talent was going to buttcrack, SC because of a goofy guy's "culture"? Clemmons is done under Dabo then if he won't be using the portal or NIL. Pretty hilarious that a coach making $11 million a year thinks that there is anything about college football is amateurism.
Yes, I absolutely do. It’s obviously one of many factors, but I believe it has been a differentiator between Clemson and other schools with similar resources. People on this board still call Dabo a clown, but he had an incredible run of sustained success that only Alabama and maybe Ohio State were able to match. Even with significant financial backing, that doesn’t happen unless you have built a program with a sustainable model.

And FWIW, I agree that Dabo’s run of success (at least at that high of a level) might be done, because his model doesn’t work so well in the NIL world. Culture is great, but it’s not going to outweigh money.
 
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They let Tyler talk for over 2 minutes before being interupted.


"You make $11.5 million a year. That's second in college football, if I'm not mistaken. I'm curious why that salary has led to 4-4 record. And I know we're going to talk about just being a couple plays away from undefeated and all that. And I know you're a man of religion, I'm a big fan, coach. Before you categorize me as being in the 1.5 percent, I was going to Clemson games and my entire family, going back generations has been going to Clemson games when you're in commercial real estate. So I'm not going to accept being and that 1.5 percent.. And I respect the fact that you're a man of faith… I’m curious if you've ever read Proverbs 16:18, which talks about pride come for the fall. I was in the military and I was overseas for the big run. And so I couldn't watch all the games had tried my best and but I always watched press conferences, just for life advice and I appreciated all that. Something changed after 2018. You're humble, you're hungry and everything, and I always told people, ‘Man Dabo, but listen to his press conferences.’ But after that 2018 National Title, something changed. And there seems to be a lot of arrogance that came in. There was a lot of friends and family. Three of the 10 on-the-field football coaches are external, experienced hires. Everyone else is an internal hire that had no experience before, or was a former player or friend.

"So I'm curious, why are we paying you $11.5 million to go 4-4 for and it's not just this year? It's been it's been, you know, just the refusal to accept….
That call was a plant, clearly.
 
Oh I don't know, who has a clue? But what producer lets a dude on the air with a clear vendetta for over 2 minutes? And Dabo, a head coach with a zillion things on his mind, has all these random ass stats on his hip at the ready? No. Brent Key didn't even know we ran for over 300 yards the other day after the game, and he's the freaking head coach. Plant. I don't know what he was trying to prove, but it was a plant.
 
Oh I don't know, who has a clue? But what producer lets a dude on the air with a clear vendetta for over 2 minutes? And Dabo, a head coach with a zillion things on his mind, has all these random ass stats on his hip at the ready? No. Brent Key didn't even know we ran for over 300 yards the other day after the game, and he's the freaking head coach. Plant. I don't know what he was trying to prove, but it was a plant.
If it was a plant Dabo did a poor job by sounding unhinged. Also when there is a plant like this they usually take all kinds of calls afterwards of people falling all over themselves to defend the attacked party and tell Dabo how much they love him. I don’t think there was much of that, but there may be some of that next week after they play Notre Dame. Especially if they lose.
 
If it was a plant Dabo did a poor job by sounding unhinged. Also when there is a plant like this they usually take all kinds of calls afterwards of people falling all over themselves to defend the attacked party and tell Dabo how much they love him. I don’t think there was much of that, but there may be some of that next week after they play Notre Dame. Especially if they lose.
And he was a veteran, so you can't shut him down? Come on, that stinks of something....
 
And he was a veteran, so you can't shut him down? Come on, that stinks of something....
You’re probably right. The whole concept of call in shows where people complain about their team, coach, blah blah blah are a thing of the past for good reason.
 
If Dabo thought he had done a good job, he would never react like that. After he ran up the score on Tech and had his son throwing a 4th down 50-yard hail Mary pass in the last seconds of a game he was leading 57 to 6 or something in Atlanta, I said to Hell with him and Clemson. I decided I would pull against Clemson in every game they ever played in any sport after that, even if they were playing Georgia. Clemson began its epic decline right after that, and I have enjoyed every game they lost. I hope they never win again. I'm sure that fan was saying what many of their fans are thinking. The way Dabo handled it was text book stupid. He just told half their fans to go somewhere else. One day they will want all the fans they can get.
I was at that game and it was really difficult to stay for the whole game, but what was just as bad was after it ended watching our players hugging the Clemson players and having their pictures taken with them. Get off the field immediately and into the locker room.
 
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