Espn picks up option to televise ACC til 2036

[USCJacket]

This chart shows me that Deion brings the eyeballs. Also, and I can't stress this enough, the ACC had a down year last year, relatively speaking. Miami was our banner team until Tech knocked them out. I generally pull for the ACC, but I always pull for Tech first. If Miami had beaten us, the ACC is perceived as being better, maybe Cam Ward plays the whole bowl game, the ACC championship game is more compelling, yadda yadda yadda and you have less crap to whine about.

Also it's funny that you disqualified week 0 (where about everyone watched an ACC conference game), and threw out all of the ACC's biggest rivalries, which are mostly out of conference. You also didn't include any Notre Dame games.

Week 0 had no competition, period. Yet still fell short of other games on this list from week 1. So here are those games:

GT-FSU - 4.99 M
Miami-UF - 6.35 M
Clemson-uga - 7.58 M
ND-TAMU - 7.92 M
USC-LSU - 8.62 M

You wanted to disqualify criteria out of the gate by saying MAction having better ratings is because as you said “First, just stop comparing weekday games to Saturday games. Apples and oranges.” We’re talking about MACtion vs P4. ACC should never have lower TV viewership. That said, if you looked at a few Friday night games, the B12 had some big ratings in conference.

Arizona-KSU - 2.58 M
UNLV-Kansas - 1.32 M
Houston-TCU - 1.51 M
Utah-ASU - 1.32 M
Okie-Lite-BYU - 1.66 M

If this is about ACC, B12 ratings, then the best measure is in conference head-to-head games.

If you want to say the ACC had a “down year” as an excuse, that’s on you to believe. This isn’t a 1 off season. The ACC just doesn’t move the meter most seasons.

 

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[midatlantech]

The ACC had a bad bowl season this year, but to say that the ACC is consistently getting "hammered" OOC is cherry picking data. This useful site shows comprehensive interconference records for the past 20 years, and while the results are not stellar, they aren't as bad as you are insinuating: https://topdan.com/college-football-conference-records/acc.html

From reviewing the above, I would propose that the factor that hurts the ACC most in terms of attendance and overall cache is (outside of Clemson) the lack of a consistent winner. Teams like Pitt, Wake, Louisville, FSU, Miami, and Tech have all followed up stellar years with real stinkers. An ACC/Big12 merger is an interesting idea, but I disagree with the assertion that the ACC is a sinking ship. A couple of years of consistency would go a long way to change the narrative.

Tech is a good national brand. We just have to care. We have the right folks in place now. Watch out.
But we need to use our refs! The SEC refs are bought and paid for. Never again! The direction is very bad, we should take a stand right now. Let UGA walk over this issue; they will be making a mistake like Dodd did in the 60’s.

 

[gtleviathan]

OK. We’ll go down your path. Let’s set the variables straight since you have already said weeknight games, etc don’t count. So here goes.

-Week 0 ratings do not count.
-OOC games do not count.
-Weeknight games do not count.

This is dumb. Of course they count. You just have to compare Thursday games to other Thursday games, Friday games to other Friday games, etc. while also taking into account the channel they are on and whatever it's competing with. Same thing with weekend games. Timeslot, channel and competition all factor into the number of viewers. Yes, this is complicated and difficult and time-consuming. But there's no other way to get a realistic picture of who is actually a draw. We've complained as Tech fans for the last couple decades, at least, of ESPN/ABC consistently giving better channels and better timeslots to other conferences (and other teams within our conference, to be fair) regardless of the quality of our teams. Those types of decisions matter when it comes to eyeballs.

Without going through that process for every week, let's see what the leaderboard looks like for the 12 competitive weeks you listed:

• Colorado: 7 wins
• ACC: 3 wins
• The rest of the B12: 2 wins

No doubt Colorado was the biggest draw of any team in the ACC or B12. (If I remember correctly, they also had prime channels and timeslots most of the time.) However, I would wager that a true multivariant analysis would show that the average ACC game from last season had more viewers than the average B12 game, taking into account channel, timeslot and competition. Our relative media payouts would indicate this is the case.

 

[JJacket]

OK. We’ll go down your path. Let’s set the variables straight since you have already said weeknight games, etc don’t count. So here goes.

-Week 0 ratings do not count.
-OOC games do not count.
-Weeknight games do not count.
-Conference games only.

Most watched game ACC/B12 by week.

Week 0:
Not enough games to count.

Week 1:
OOC game week.

Week 2:
Baylor-Utah - 2.08 M
UVA-Wake - 358 K (not many ACC games).

Week 3:
UCF-TCU - 1.03 M
No ACC conference games.

Week 4:
Baylor-Colorado - 3.64 M
NCSU-Clemson - 1.95 M

Week 5:
Colorado-UCF - 4.17 M
Okie State-KSU - 1.88 M (If you want to complain Colorado got the top watched game).
Stanford-Clemson - 1 M

Week 6:
Miami-Cal - 1.92 M
Houston-TCU - 1.51 M
For reference:
Clemson-FSU - 1.41 M

Week 7:
KSU-Colorado - 3.26 M
Arizona-BYU - 1.31 M (If again you want to point out Colorado).
Clemson-Wake - 1.3 M

Week 8:
Miami-UofL - 4.07 M
Colorado-Arizona - 2.02 M
Okie State-BYU - 1.66 M (again, next option post Colorado).
FSU-Duke - 1.26 M (For reference of the next ACC game).

Week 9:
Texas Tech-TCU - 2.36 M
Cincy-Colorado - 2.34 M
FSU-Miami - 1.53 M
BYU-UCF - 1.26 M (For point of reference).

Week 10:
Duke-Miami - 1.96 M
KSU-Houston - 1.51 M
UofL-Clemson - 1.43 M
Texas Tech-ISU - 1.24 M

Week 11:
Colorado-Texas Tech - 3.68 M
Miami-GT - 3.46 M
BYU-Utah - 2.07 M
Clemson-VT - 1.44 M

Week 12:
Utah-Colorado - 4 M
Clemson-Pitt - 1.85 M
Kansa-BYU - 1.75 M
Cincy-Iowa State - 1 M
BC-SMU - 965 K (next ACC game).

Week 13:
Colorado-Kansas - 6.22 M
Iowa State-Utah - 1.91 M
BYU-Arizona State - 1.31 M
Wake-Miami - 985 K (1st ACC game).

Week 14 (rivalry week)
Okie State-Colorado - 3.31 M
Miami-Syracuse - 2.11 M
KSU-Iowa State - 2.01 M
4 other B12 games before:
Cal-SMU - 228 K

Cool, douchebag, I already told your ass to go lobby JBatt to get us into your dream league, the Big12

 

[gtg970g]

Every one of Colorado's games was on national TV. It's hard to compare viewership between two sets which have completely different distribution.

 

[USCJacket]

Every one of Colorado's games was on national TV. It's hard to compare viewership between two sets which have completely different distribution.

False narrative. Every single game is on national TV now. ACC is ESPN, ABC, CW. All games are on national TV. ESPN+ for ACCDN.

B12 is ESPN, ESPN+, ABC, FOX, FS1.