Fire TStan

Supersize that order mutt said:
Enough with Wiz and anybody else that played at Tech. We need a totally non-Tech person to completely shake things up, both in the field and in the athletic department
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Alabama got over that whole "Bear Coaching Tree" thing and look at them now. Having someone associated with the program from the past is overrated.
 
rocky top buzz said:
Its really a BS argument "there were zero coaches who would take this job on a standard 4 year contract." And to say otherwise is an insult to everyone's intelligence. Maybe 7 years is what it took to get a sitting head coach but I have no doubt Tech could have hired an ACC-level coordinator, we couldn't have had worse results...
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There are hundreds of coaches who would take this job on a 4 year contract. Key would, Choice would. Every high school coach or D2 coach would. There are a lot of good football coaches out there who would kill for a P5 job. The snobbery of wanting a current head coach or a retread is what got us in this mess in the first place. I’d take the Buford coach in a heartbeat over Collins. That dude knows how to run a program.
 
Supersize that order mutt said:
If we were going to have to give a long term contract anyway, then why not go for the best, instead of a nobody?
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That was literally my whole point. We didn't have to give a long contract. If tstan thought the problem was flipping the roster, hire a young up and comer who can recruit, flip the roster and if he was in year 3 of 4 with this record, it's cheap to cut ties. No doubt this roster and the Atlanta market would now make this job more attractive than when CPJ left.
 
smokey_wasp said:
Who among the best wanted it? Whiz interviewed but supposedly turned it down. Other guys like Norvell said no when approached. If you can't offer a coach an opportunity to win right away, you have to offer him a ton of money. We could offer neither.
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Has it really gotten to the point that you can't find a competent person to take a four million dollar a year job?
 
CiraldoForever said:
Has it really gotten to the point that you can't find a competent person to take a four million dollar a year job?
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The job is more like $2.7 million per year, and the caveat is that the people we are after are already making low 7 figures and can wait on a $5-6 million per yr job with less built in BS than the Tech job has.

Of course a nobody would love a $2.7 million per yr job, but winning, talented coaches aren't nobodies.
 
PressManCoverage said:
The job is more like $2.7 million per year, and the caveat is that the people we are after are already making low 7 figures and can wait on a $5-6 million per yr job with less built in BS than the Tech job has.

Of course a nobody would love a $2.7 million per yr job, but winning, talented coaches aren't nobodies.
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I admire your optimism and loyalty to our AD and coach, but I think we could hire a competent coach for even 2.7 million dollars a year.

I read some of our opponents' message boards. Coaches get criticized a lot more at other schools than they do at Tech. And by a lot more people.

If Coach Collins seemed like a "winning, talented coach," I wouldn't be concerned. I hope he proves he is one, but so far he just hasn't.
 
rocky top buzz said:
That was literally my whole point. We didn't have to give a long contract. If tstan thought the problem was flipping the roster, hire a young up and comer who can recruit, flip the roster and if he was in year 3 of 4 with this record, it's cheap to cut ties. No doubt this roster and the Atlanta market would now make this job more attractive than when CPJ left.
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So you are suggesting we approach hiring/firing coaches like Tennessee does? Or we hire folks on the cheap for the time being to get us over the hump kinda like we did with this coaching staff?
 
H-town said:
So you are suggesting we approach hiring/firing coaches like Tennessee does? Or we hire folks on the cheap for the time being to get us over the hump kinda like we did with this coaching staff?
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Are you bad at math? 7 year contracts aren't "hiring on the cheap." Tech hired the most expensive coach they could find, and turns out he's not very good at winning. He'd probably be a great marketer for waffle house though...
 
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