For the Few Johnson Critcs....

THWG_Nuff Said said:
No he's saying you don't have the foggiest clue about what you're talking about...atleast that's what it appears to me.

Dear Lord, you just said we should be a great option team because Nesbitt is the perfect size/build for an option QB

Christ, Eric Crouch was the perfect size/build to audition for an Oompa Loompa in a Wonka Remake but no one threw him white overalls
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I never once said that GT should be a great option team due to Nesbitt. You're attempting to make stuff up to support your argument.

What I said was that GT had a good stable of players for the offense when PJ arrived.

Nothing more.

Nothing less.
 
But you're implying it. Just because there's a good stable there, that doesn't mean that you're all set.

That's my point with you. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Yes...there were good players there. But that's it. There's no guarantee that they could make it work.
 
gsu_paintballer said:
Are you saying that GT didn't have good sized WRs that can block and a good set of RBs?

Or are you just looking for an opportunity to drop an insult?
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no, i'm saying that we had been recruiting for 5 years for a different style of offense and we had very little on the shelves to really run the TO.

luckily, despite NEVER running the option before, Nesbitt is athletic enough to do it. the backup was a true freshman

the line had been taught to stand up and take a step back, and we recruited big guys that cant be moved around. now we need quicker guys that are better at staying low.

we had ONE WR, bey bey that was big and has speed

we had good RB, but even AA transferred to Tech from Louisville

you just spout off crap, thats what im saying.. and its true. go hang with Kyle and talk bad about Nesbitt and Womach
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
But you're implying it. Just because there's a good stable there, that doesn't mean that you're all set.

That's my point with you. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Yes...there were good players there. But that's it. There's no guarantee that they could make it work.
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I'm not implying anything.

You're providing the implications.

All I've said is that he had a good set of skill players already here. Is that arguable?

BuzzCzar said:
no, i'm saying that we had been recruiting for 5 years for a different style of offense and we had very little on the shelves to really run the TO.

luckily, despite NEVER running the option before, Nesbitt is athletic enough to do it. the backup was a true freshman

the line had been taught to stand up and take a step back, and we recruited big guys that cant be moved around. now we need quicker guys that are better at staying low.

we had ONE WR, bey bey that was big and has speed

we had good RB, but even AA transferred to Tech from Louisville

you just spout off crap, thats what im saying.. and its true. go hang with Kyle and talk bad about Nesbitt and Womach
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If you actually read those posts.....I don't like Tenuta.

If you also read the posts, I clarified that I meant skill players, not OL.
 
gsu_paintballer said:
I'm not implying anything.

You're providing the implications.

All I've said is that he had a good set of skill players already here. Is that arguable?
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That's not what you said...you specifically said we had good players FOR THIS SYSTEM with the exception of the OL.

Yes, that implies that a QB is included.

But, like so many have pointed out...we didn't have a single person recruited for a system like this. We've made due with what we have, but to think that Johnson bringing his own players in won't make a difference is pretty dumb.
 
TechinItEasy said:
That's not what you said...you specifically said we had good players FOR THIS SYSTEM with the exception of the OL.

Yes, that implies that a QB is included.

But, like so many have pointed out...we didn't have a single person recruited for a system like this. We've made due with what we have, but to think that Johnson bringing his own players in won't make a difference is pretty dumb.
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What I said and what you said that I said are basically the same - semantics.

I'm not denying that I posted what you are claiming.

GT DID HAVE A QB THAT WAS A GOOD FIT FOR THIS SYSTEM.

How can you deny that? Of course he didn't have experience in the offense. I've never once claimed he did.

If PJ came in here and had to choose between Taylor Bennett and Calvin Booker - THEN he would not have had his players.

If he came in and had to choose between Reggie Ball and Josh Nesbitt - THEN he has his players.

Also, I never once posted that Johnson recruits won't make a difference. You are also putting words into my posts that aren't there.

I simply stated that GT had a good set of skill players here when he arrived. This is an undeniable fact.
 
Dude...someone mentioned that Johnson winning 11 out of 15 without his players here was good.

You LAUGHED at him for saying it and then said that Johnson had players that were already fit for this system.

That, to me(and everyone else), sounds like you saying Johnson's recruits won't make a difference.

You know the thing about message boards? You can't take back something you've already said without people noticing.
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
i don't understand how anyone can be a critic of him after what he's done for 15 games.

He's won 11 of 15 without his actual players that he caters to in recruiting.
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gsu_paintballer said:
*Above text quoted*

I laugh every time someone says this.

GT had a roster of good players for this system already. Naturally, the OL was lacking, I'll give you that.
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If you DIDN'T mean that Johnson's recruits won't make a difference, then what DID you mean?
 
TechinItEasy said:
Dude...someone mentioned that Johnson winning 11 out of 15 without his players here was good.

You LAUGHED at him for saying it and then said that Johnson had players that were already fit for this system.

That, to me(and everyone else), sounds like you saying Johnson's recruits won't make a difference.

You know the thing about message boards? You can't take back something you've already said without people noticing.
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Thank You Sir. I said that.

I also say he's a moron. I just really think the poor guy doesn't understand what all goes into putting a GOOD TEAM on the field.

Just becaus there are good players here already doesn't mean that they're a fit for what's to come.

He doesn't get that....but I'm not suprised

he's as impossible to talk to or explain the game of football as Kyle is
 
TechinItEasy said:
If you DIDN'T mean that Johnson's recruits won't make a difference, then what DID you mean?
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I'm simply trying to tell you that he's not as deprived of "his players" as you all think.

If you want to execute the spin cycle some more, go ahead.

How many times have I answered this?
 
gsu_paintballer said:
I'm simply trying to tell you that he's not as deprived of "his players" as you all think.

If you want to execute the spin cycle some more, go ahead.

How many times have I answered this?
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not once in any way that makes sense to anyone but you, apparently
 
Ok i read every page of this thread and i think you need to get off paintballer's case he simply stated that CPJ had some talent to work with to win early in his tenure here
 
I have watched PJ's offense for a long time and I do not believe that Nesbitt is exactly what PJ wants at QB. He is a great athlete but he needs a little more quickness to turn it up. I agree the OL needs work, but I guarantee they are working on that. Dwyer works in any offense, just an athlete. My question is can we find another Dwyer in a few years. I do not believe that our next QB will look like Nesbitt, maybe White from West Virginia (if we are so lucky). I love this Offense!!!
 
1930 said:
I have watched PJ's offense for a long time and I do not believe that Nesbitt is exactly what PJ wants at QB. He is a great athlete but he needs a little more quickness to turn it up. I agree the OL needs work, but I guarantee they are working on that. Dwyer works in any offense, just an athlete. My question is can we find another Dwyer in a few years. I do not believe that our next QB will look like Nesbitt, maybe White from West Virginia (if we are so lucky). I love this Offense!!!
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I think you're exactly right and he's already remedied the QB situation with those behind Nesbitt on the DC and still recruiting.

RB's...we're fine. We've got the kid from Collins Hill who's a stud (6'1 about 220 and runs a 4.4-4.5) and don't forget Allen has another year and Jones too.

The 2 RB's signed last year are very speedy just not quite as big in size (they're in the 5'8 / 5'9 range...which probably means 5'6 or 5'7)
 
GTFowler said:
Ok i read every page of this thread and i think you need to get off paintballer's case he simply stated that CPJ had some talent to work with to win early in his tenure here
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Agree. Then he clarified he meant the skill positions, not the line, which is completely obvious anyway.
 
GTFowler said:
Ok i read every page of this thread and i think you need to get off paintballer's case he simply stated that CPJ had some talent to work with to win early in his tenure here
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I agree with this. It's not like PJ inherited a Big 10 power-is-all-who-needs-speed? team.
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but seriously, while they guys weren't a perfect fit for it its not like they were the worst case scenario and we're all agreed that the offensive line players were the least adaptable to the new offense. That's how a converted tight-end can be the starter.
 
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