FTRS: Why we're struggling (and where the '19 class is now)

1982Jacket said:
So you count some dudes who came here in 2022 as part of Collins' 2019 recruiting class.

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No. The article is basically saying that the 2019 class should be heavy contributors at this point and that we've lost all of them and nobody left from that class will be contributing much. It's bullshit because we still have 5-6 guys that will be heavy contributors from that class, lost 5-6 contributors, and replaced them with 5-6 contributors from the same class. Leonard and Douse are projected starters. Norris and Sylvain are 2nd string and will see lots of PT. Knight and Johnson will both play a lot of ST, and Johnson will be at DB some.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Doesn’t matter. He was hired one month before signing day. It’s ridiculous to think he actually had time to recruit anyone. All he did was keep most of the class intact. We can fault him for not retaining the 20 and 21 classes, but it’s stupid to put any weight into the 19 class.
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He was already recruiting when he was hired - he was recruiting Ahmarean Brown for Temple but got him to come to Tech.
So he already had a list of prospects he was going after and was more than likely given the prospects' contacts by the outgoing staff. Then it was up to him whether to continue to recruit those kids.
As for keeping the class intact - he was specifically told the program will honor the commitments given to the previous staff.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
Griffin, Brown, Lockhart, Huff, Burnett, Devaney, and Ezzard are all post CGC hire and none with the program.

Also, to your broader point, we’re a developmental program, even when our recruiting sucks, which is often.
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Other than Griffin, who we convinced not to sign with NC State, there is probably a reason most of those guys were available. He was filling a class with what he could get. The next class is when you start to judge him because he had a year to build relationships.

Recruiting classes during a coaching transition year are always going to be like this, anyway, so I dunno why they felt it news-worthy. When you change coaches, you either end up with a bunch of decommitments or you take on guys who were never going to be a fit and end up getting pushed out later.
 
We’re way past needing this article. Doesn’t matter why we’re at this point. The game is clear. Geoff sh*ts or gets off the pot.
 
Where is the commentary about the Coach who had responsibility for ALMOST ALL of the 2019 recruiting process? It must be blistering.
 
Pretty clear who read it and who didn't. For those who clearly didn't, the article is a review of the '19 recruiting class. He also did reviews of several others around the same time.
 
FTRS is completely unreadable. They're sniveling little BETAs over there. Every other article is a massive dump on Tech athletics. If you hate Tech sports so much, then why sign up to write about it on a sports blog?
 
QuadF said:
Pretty clear who read it and who didn't. For those who clearly didn't, the article is a review of the '19 recruiting class. He also did reviews of several others around the same time.
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Nope. Didn’t read it. Hate that site. Only responding to comments on here.
 
JoeCakeEater said:
FTRS is completely unreadable. They're sniveling little BETAs over there. Every other article is a massive dump on Tech athletics. If you hate Tech sports so much, then why sign up to write about it on a sports blog?
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FTRS impresses me as the type of Tech fan that spends all his time hanging around dwag fans, kissing their behinds and trashing Tech every chance he gets.
 
1982Jacket said:
By the time he got started, most of the studs were already locked and loaded somewhere else and he was mostly (with some exceptions) picking over the hideous leavins. Do you really think that if he started a year earlier, those would have still been the same 21 that he signed? He got the best that he could, and three years later he is now able to get better, so those dudes are gone.

At least that's the way folks gonna spin it.
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Those points are 100% valid, but the new hires weren’t able to convince ANYONE they were recruiting at their previous schools to come to GT? Take Key for example (yeah please take him somewhere), there’s Bammer’s recruits. NONE of them would come here. But then there’s the grey shirts, maybe ZERO of them would come here but maybe he couldn’t convince any of them to make the jump here and start right away. Then you have the group that wants to go to Bammer but isn’t scholarship or even grey shirt eligible, you know the low 4 star OL or high 3 star. He couldn’t convince any of those kids they had no room in the inn for to come to GT, ZERO???? How does that even make sense? You’d think he’d atleast be able to recruit one kid to come here and play if not a whole OL full. Then you have transfers, he didn’t know one of those either he could pull here? Really?
 
JoeCakeEater said:
FTRS is completely unreadable. They're sniveling little BETAs over there. Every other article is a massive dump on Tech athletics. If you hate Tech sports so much, then why sign up to write about it on a sports blog?
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It's not as good as it was in prior years, but they do still tend to take a hard look at data and analytics as opposed to just gold colored glasses and talking about "the progress".

Do you not agree that tech öööö the best for 3 years in a row and find it completely unacceptable?
 
00Burdell said:
FTRS impresses me as the type of Tech fan that spends all his time hanging around dwag fans, kissing their behinds and trashing Tech every chance he gets.
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Interesting take. So every sports writer is against tech now even ftrs? It seems like our coach is trashing tech more than any rag can.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Well, that wasn’t really CGC’s class, so…
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That is an issue every time there is a coaching change. In most cases, the new coach brings some recruits initially recruited at his previous school.

Who did Collins bring in? With Key's reputation and the opportunity to play immediately, why didn't we attract quality OL recruits.
 
Liberty said:
Those points are 100% valid, but the new hires weren’t able to convince ANYONE they were recruiting at their previous schools to come to GT? Take Key for example (yeah please take him somewhere), there’s Bammer’s recruits. NONE of them would come here. But then there’s the grey shirts, maybe ZERO of them would come here but maybe he couldn’t convince any of them to make the jump here and start right away. Then you have the group that wants to go to Bammer but isn’t scholarship or even grey shirt eligible, you know the low 4 star OL or high 3 star. He couldn’t convince any of those kids they had no room in the inn for to come to GT, ZERO???? How does that even make sense? You’d think he’d atleast be able to recruit one kid to come here and play if not a whole OL full. Then you have transfers, he didn’t know one of those either he could pull here? Really?
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What the hell are you talking about? That doesn't typically happen anywhere, and especially with linemen. You have to make inroads with those kids early, and anybody he was recruiting at the time wasn't going to leave a factory offer and go to GT, and any other lower kids he likely had no relationship with yet so that makes it even harder. Most kids stay committed to a school anyway, not follow a coach. And as far as transfers go, you do remember that back then you couldn't transfer and immediately play somewhere, right? We did get a grad transfer from Vandy that year.
 
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