Future of Upper North Stands?

stinger78 said:
This was all part of the branding initiative, to make people like GT better. Think about that: to make folks feel better about MA Tech. Is she getting so old and decrepit that she's now worried what people will say about her?

TBH, I hate GT. GT abused me, shafted me, stretched me, laughed at me, and called me names. But I prevailed. As a result, I now have the greatest respect for GT. I have even greater respect for S-A's who have to perform both in the classroom and on the field with excellence.

Why we feel compelled to slam that ginormous building right next to a stadium already landlocked and without enough space I'll never know. But we apparently are. Years ago, we tore down a large part of the stadium to avoid code violations. Even now we cannot really upgrade the largest stands for fear of code violations. The UE is a walking fit of claustrophobia just to get concessions or go to the head. Yet we decide to build a big, brand new administrative building, I guess so folks can walk out of that piece of new shiny bait into the oldest on-campus college stadium in the US - that we apparently don't have enough shekels to bring up to date code-wise. I dunno. All I can do is shrug.
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I don’t necessarily disagree with you on priorities, but I think that the planned new Edge contains a lot of fancy player space (for several of our teams).
 
stinger78 said:
This was all part of the branding initiative, to make people like GT better. Think about that: to make folks feel better about MA Tech. Is she getting so old and decrepit that she's now worried what people will say about her?

TBH, I hate GT. GT abused me, shafted me, stretched me, laughed at me, and called me names. But I prevailed. As a result, I now have the greatest respect for GT. I have even greater respect for S-A's who have to perform both in the classroom and on the field with excellence.

Why we feel compelled to slam that ginormous building right next to a stadium already landlocked and without enough space I'll never know. But we apparently are. Years ago, we tore down a large part of the stadium to avoid code violations. Even now we cannot really upgrade the largest stands for fear of code violations. The UE is a walking fit of claustrophobia just to get concessions or go to the head. Yet we decide to build a big, brand new administrative building, I guess so folks can walk out of that piece of new shiny bait into the oldest on-campus college stadium in the US - that we apparently don't have enough shekels to bring up to date code-wise. I dunno. All I can do is shrug.
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Ma Tech has obv read The Game
 
stinger78 said:
This was all part of the branding initiative, to make people like GT better. Think about that: to make folks feel better about MA Tech. Is she getting so old and decrepit that she's now worried what people will say about her?
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It had nothing at all to do with making people like GT. Todd envisioned an AA building that looked and felt like a corporate office building. He wanted the student athletes to think they were coming to work every day and were comfortable with this attitude when they transitioned beyond their athletic career.
 
If I could start from scratch I'd copy Baylor's stadium. 45K and loud.
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clapper said:
It had nothing at all to do with making people like GT. Todd envisioned an AA building that looked and felt like a corporate office building. He wanted the student athletes to think they were coming to work every day and were comfortable with this attitude when they transitioned beyond their athletic career.
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Nothing at all? I somehow don't think that is really true. However, while a noble concept, I think that is a bit cart-before-horse. We have Dr. Rice's student success program. Do we need to put that money into a building more than to service the capital needs of our athletic venues? It's just my opinion, but I think not. The place of the GTAA is first to fund the athletic programs so that they can compete at the highest levels. That includes the performance venues. If we don't do that first and foremost those programs will die off and all the student and professional success initiatives will be for naught.
 
stinger78 said:
Nothing at all? I somehow don't think that is really true.
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I'm just telling you what Todd told me when he first got here. He wanted a shiny new building and that was his justification.

stinger78 said:
I think that is a bit cart-before-horse. We have Dr. Rice's student success program. Do we need to put that money into a building more than to service the capital needs of our athletic venues? It's just my opinion, but I think not. The place of the GTAA is first to fund the athletic programs so that they can compete at the highest levels. That includes the performance venues. If we don't do that first and foremost those programs will die off and all the student and professional success initiatives will be for naught.
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It's not just your opinion. Many of us share it. I'd love to see them redirect the funds. They'd need to go back to those donors and get their support. It's likely that some would pull the donation, but there is a precedent for that with Todd's handling of the basketball locker rooms renovation. So, I don't think anyone would be surprised.
 
clapper said:
I'm just telling you what Todd told me when he first got here. He wanted a shiny new building and that was his justification.


It's not just your opinion. Many of us share it. I'd love to see them redirect the funds. They'd need to go back to those donors and get their support. It's likely that some would pull the donation, but there is a precedent for that with Todd's handling of the basketball locker rooms renovation. So, I don't think anyone would be surprised.
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Why would we get rid of something that is “virtually unmatched” other than the ego of an idiot former AD?

The Arthur B. Edge Intercollegiate Athletics Center

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Tarp off the upper-North to concentrate fans into the lower stands and then sell advertising space on it to help pay-off debt.

Could we just put some professor/admin offices into the stadium somewhere and then let the academic side of GT take over the cost and debt?
 
Why do we need to rebuild. Why not just reconfigure the existing building. If we need more space, move some offices to the existing buildings behind the West stands. Use the money saved to reduce the debt.
 
BrentwoodJacket said:
Why do we need to rebuild. Why not just reconfigure the existing building. If we need more space, move some offices to the existing buildings behind the West stands. Use the money saved to reduce the debt.
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According to the report linked on here a few days ago, we owe about $23M/year for the next 3 years, and about $230M over the next what... 17 years or so... it's about $13M/year. The $13M is not a terrible amount. The $23M is. If they could raise the funds to pay the $23M down to about the $13M/year level, it would be huge! That would take about $30M over 3 years to do that. Batt has raised about $5M already, soon to go to $7M. That includes matching funds from the Foundation. If he can pull off a challenge fund for each of the next 2 years and net around $10M each year, it would go a long way to easing the crunch the GTAA feels.
 
GT65_UGA89 said:
Why build something like that right at the corner of the stadium? I just do not get the structural design planning around the stadium over the past 20+ years. Georgia Tech, of all places, should have better architectural designing for BDS and the surrounding area.
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That one is on the Hill and CPSM. Skipped over the local talent and went out of town. Hello North end-zone abortion.
 
savbandjacket said:
I don’t necessarily disagree with you on priorities, but I think that the planned new Edge contains a lot of fancy player space (for several of our teams).
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"Project Background
The Georgia Tech Athletic Association plans to reinvigorate their athletic headquarters complex,
with a focus on student-athlete performance. The new facility will impact every Georgia Tech
student-athlete’s experience for athletic and academic success. The facility will be designed to
develop a better student-athlete through innovative strength and performance training, nutrition,
sports medicine, and academic support. The facility will contain state-of-the-art technology and
innovation spaces that align with the mission and distinctive qualities of the Institute. It will
impress recruits that their experience at Georgia Tech will be unique and prepare them for
lifelong success. The complex currently consists of the Arthur B. Edge Intercollegiate Athletic
Center and the Homer Rice Center for Sports Performance, as well as a potential portion of the
Bobby Dodd Stadium North Stands (constructed in 2003).

The complex is in need of comprehensive renewal or replacement. The Edge Building was
opened in 1981 and the Rice Building in 1996. The four level Edge Building and three level Rice
Building serve as home to Georgia Tech’s Intercollegiate Athletics Program. The complex
houses all GTAA administrative offices, a dining hall for student-athletes, The Hearn Academic
Center, physical therapy clinic, sports medicine area, and ticket offices.

Over time, piece-meal renovations and one-off decisions have rendered the buildings inefficient
and have affected the functionality of the spaces in adverse ways. Necessary programmatic
adjacencies have eroded to the point of inefficiency. This project will offer an opportunity to
contemplate the changing role of GTAA functions, programmatic adjacencies and right sizing of
spaces.

This project will reinvent the public facing components of GTAA so that it once again feels
integrated and connected to the larger Institute community, rather than embedded deep into a
concrete bunker. It will be the front door for GTAA and in many ways Georgia Tech, through
athletic program visitors. The changing NCAA landscape related to recruiting, resource provision,
and student-athlete academic success is also driving major changes to program and process, all
of which impact space. Additionally, evolving work processes are changing work place
environments to be more flexible and collaborative in nature.

Building infrastructure systems, such as HVAC, are at the end of their useful life and need
replacement. Significant opportunities exist to create a building with lower energy use. Electrical
and network upgrades are necessary. Toilet rooms, stairs and elevators need upgrades to
accommodate physically challenged individuals. The buildings need ADA and seismic upgrades
related to new code requirements. This project will address these systems issues and create a
more sustainable home for Georgia Tech Athletics.

The vision for the finished project is three-fold. First, the renewed and/or new buildings will
provide space that properly supports GTAA in their day-to-day operations for the near future, but
most importantly the continued success of GT student-athletes. Second, the project corrects
serious building systems deficiencies, envelope issues and functional items, such as the loading
dock area. Third, and perhaps most exciting, the new facility will allow Georgia Tech to better
compete for recruits furthering the rich tradition of the GT student-athletes. Programmatic
enhancements such as a new Performance Lab in coordination with a new strength and
conditioning component and improved Sports Medicine Lab will better position Georgia Tech for
the opportunity to remain competitive within the Atlantic Coast Conference, and to meet
expectations of the alumni fan base to compete on a national level. "
 
wishbone said:
"Project Background
The Georgia Tech Athletic Association plans to reinvigorate their athletic headquarters complex,
with a focus on student-athlete performance. The new facility will impact every Georgia Tech
student-athlete’s experience for athletic and academic success. The facility will be designed to
develop a better student-athlete through innovative strength and performance training, nutrition,
sports medicine, and academic support. The facility will contain state-of-the-art technology and
innovation spaces that align with the mission and distinctive qualities of the Institute. It will
impress recruits that their experience at Georgia Tech will be unique and prepare them for
lifelong success. The complex currently consists of the Arthur B. Edge Intercollegiate Athletic
Center and the Homer Rice Center for Sports Performance, as well as a potential portion of the
Bobby Dodd Stadium North Stands (constructed in 2003).

The complex is in need of comprehensive renewal or replacement. The Edge Building was
opened in 1981 and the Rice Building in 1996. The four level Edge Building and three level Rice
Building serve as home to Georgia Tech’s Intercollegiate Athletics Program. The complex
houses all GTAA administrative offices, a dining hall for student-athletes, The Hearn Academic
Center, physical therapy clinic, sports medicine area, and ticket offices.

Over time, piece-meal renovations and one-off decisions have rendered the buildings inefficient
and have affected the functionality of the spaces in adverse ways. Necessary programmatic
adjacencies have eroded to the point of inefficiency. This project will offer an opportunity to
contemplate the changing role of GTAA functions, programmatic adjacencies and right sizing of
spaces.

This project will reinvent the public facing components of GTAA so that it once again feels
integrated and connected to the larger Institute community, rather than embedded deep into a
concrete bunker. It will be the front door for GTAA and in many ways Georgia Tech, through
athletic program visitors. The changing NCAA landscape related to recruiting, resource provision,
and student-athlete academic success is also driving major changes to program and process, all
of which impact space. Additionally, evolving work processes are changing work place
environments to be more flexible and collaborative in nature.

Building infrastructure systems, such as HVAC, are at the end of their useful life and need
replacement. Significant opportunities exist to create a building with lower energy use. Electrical
and network upgrades are necessary. Toilet rooms, stairs and elevators need upgrades to
accommodate physically challenged individuals. The buildings need ADA and seismic upgrades
related to new code requirements. This project will address these systems issues and create a
more sustainable home for Georgia Tech Athletics.

The vision for the finished project is three-fold. First, the renewed and/or new buildings will
provide space that properly supports GTAA in their day-to-day operations for the near future, but
most importantly the continued success of GT student-athletes. Second, the project corrects
serious building systems deficiencies, envelope issues and functional items, such as the loading
dock area. Third, and perhaps most exciting, the new facility will allow Georgia Tech to better
compete for recruits furthering the rich tradition of the GT student-athletes. Programmatic
enhancements such as a new Performance Lab in coordination with a new strength and
conditioning component and improved Sports Medicine Lab will better position Georgia Tech for
the opportunity to remain competitive within the Atlantic Coast Conference, and to meet
expectations of the alumni fan base to compete on a national level. "
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The first thing I thought of when I heard of this was NEW pretty offices for all the ADMIN. Nice idea but a bit like repeinting the car before a Daytona 500.Surely that money could be used better.
 
AlaGold said:
The first thing I thought of when I heard of this was NEW pretty offices for all the ADMIN. Nice idea but a bit like repeinting the car before a Daytona 500.Surely that money could be used better.
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Ya'll talk abut supporting the program...the new edge is about player performance improvements...not Admin offices. Geez.
Unfortunately the original Edge was a infill of the old Naval Armory. Downhill from there. Then we hired the out of town dopes that ööööed up the north end with the seating abortion.

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wishbone said:
Ya'll talk abut supporting the program...the new edge is about player performance improvements...not Admin offices. Geez.
Unfortunately the original Edge was a infill of the old Naval Armory. Downhill from there. Then we hired the out of town dopes that ööööed up the north end with the seating abortion.

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Would love to see our facilities get this kind of facelift but it takes money and lots of it. Are we all in? I'm doing my part.
 
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