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Gator Bowl seeing Red over Tech selection

By GENE FRENETTE, The Times-Union


You know all about the Florida vs. Michigan debate because it stirred a national public turbulence over the Bowl Championship Series formula.

But here on the banks of the St. Johns River - where Gator Bowl Association beancounters are swimming in red ink over Saturday's revenue-challenged Atlantic Coast Conference championship game - the fallout from a quieter controversy between the bowl's greencoats and the ACC could have long-term implications.

The tension is obvious. The resolution is not.

Gator Bowl representatives are reluctant to discuss the situation publicly, but it's no secret they're livid over the ACC strong-arming them into selecting league runner-up Georgia Tech instead of Clemson to play in the Jan. 1 Toyota Gator Bowl. Tech's selection is causing major flak between a 60-year-old bowl and its dance partner for the past decade.

Which, in turn, could impact whether the ACC renews its two-year option with Jacksonville to bring back the league championship game. But for now, that's a separate hot-button issue.

Here's what has GBA members fuming: league commissioner John Swofford went on television at halftime of Saturday's ACC Championship game and said the Gator Bowl would have options besides taking the ACC runner-up. But after Georgia Tech lost to Wake Forest, the GBA was pressured by conference officials to invite the Yellow Jackets anyway.

At the heart of this dispute is the ACC's "one-loss rule" for non-BCS bowls, which prohibits passing one team for another if there's more than a loss difference in their league records (Georgia Tech was 7-1, Clemson 5-3). The Gator Bowl contended last week that it had verbally agreed on a contract provision to relieve them from taking the ACC runner-up.

Well, with the GBA losing $1 million-plus on the ACC title game because it sold only 62,000 tickets, it loathed the prospect of Georgia Tech's disappointed fan base returning. And potentially, another financial hit on a not-for-profit corporation.

"The communication gap is probably at the root of all the frustration," said Georgia Tech athletic director Dan Radakovich. "We're just trying to protect the interests of our program." Nobody at the Gator Bowl is upset with Georgia Tech. The GBA understands Tech's desire not to be pushed any further down the bowl food chain.

Essentially, it was up to the ACC to resolve this dilemma and it chose to side with a league member over a bowl partner.

Why is the Gator Bowl steaming? Because it guaranteed the ACC and its schools about $8 million between the league title game and the bowl game. And when the GBA took a financial bath on Saturday's poorly attended contest, it hoped the ACC would provide a lift by consenting to a Clemson-Texas bowl matchup (favored by CBS).

When that didn't happen, a blissful relationship between the Gator Bowl and ACC suddenly turned chilly.

The GBA is mum on the subject. Swofford and associate ACC commissioner Mike Finn were in New York Monday and did not return messages.

Nobody knows if this rift will blow over or lead to the ACC taking its title game elsewhere.

But this much is certain: Gator Bowl officials have bigger issues to settle than getting caught up in the BCS controversy. Like making sure a good marriage with the ACC endures an obvious rough patch.

gene.frenette@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4540
 
Are you surprised? I'd like to see Roll Call for those planning on making the trip to the Gator Bowl....We average 50 viewers online all day....do we have 50 going from Stingtalk?

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you thought you saw alot blue seats at the game Saturday? ..wait until the Gator Bowl gets played. The Gator Bowl and Jacksonville know this and that is why they don't want us. If the ACCCG wasn't enough of a draw, then what makes one think this will be?
 
We couldn't sell out the best seats in the house, GeeTee, the Club Section b/w the 20's. How many years are left on CCG's contract. I see a buy out in the future.........
 
I can't blame the Gator Bowl for being unhappy. They want to see the stadium filled and an attractive match-up. We don't meet either qualification the way we have stumbled at year end.

The fault lies with the ACC and the suck a$$ list of bowls we are saddled with. We could have helped them and ourselves by beating UGA or Wake and shifting the bowl requirements around. The CFA Bowl would have taken us if we have beaten UGA and freed the Gator to invite either VT or Clemson. Our excellent conference record and late season failures ended up raosting them.

I don't know the payouts involved but it might have been good for the ACC to trade the Gator with something like the Outback to give us another locale to consider and free the Gator up to invite a different team. But the list of bowls within the conference are extremely unattractive once you drop below the Gator. Perhaps if the ACC hadn't screwed us last year we might have been more open to such a move.
 
I heard that we have already sold 7,000 tickets. That would seem to be pretty good for it being just a couple of days off a disappointing loss.

Gator Bowl did not sell out because:

- Wake Forest could not pull its weight because there just are not enough Wake Forest alumns alive to do it.

- Weather

- The Gator Bowl used every last bit of media attention it got to tell unaligned locals what a crappy game they were forced to have rather than promote it. Congratulations Gator Bowl Committee you convinced everyone that you had a crappy game not worth going to and if you keep it up no one will show up for the Gator either.
 
CitySting said:
Are you surprised? I'd like to see Roll Call for those planning on making the trip to the Gator Bowl....We average 50 viewers online all day....do we have 50 going from Stingtalk?

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Geetee, you're having a field day with this crap aren't you. The Gator Bowl doesn't want the ACCCG runnerup no matter who it is. This has nothing to do with Tech. They took a bath on Va Tech last year because fans don't want to return to the same city after losing there a month previous. If you would make the effort to do some research you would have found a number of articles on this point prior to the game last weekend.

The problem is the Peach Bowl didn't take the ACC #2 and the ACC doesn't have another New Year's bowl to choose from. This is a league issue, not a Tech one.

We could sell 25,000 tickets and it wouldn't solve the issue. The GB would still want the flexibility to pick who they want.
 
Screw the Gator Bowl

The Gator Bowl is getting exactly what is deserves.

First, not ONCE did the Gator Bowl take the positive spin and mention that GT sold MORE than it's 10K allotment for the ACCCG.

Second, to continue to expect the ACC schools (not named FSU) to automatically fill an 80K stadium on their own without local Jacksonville support is ludicrous. (And for those that think Miami can fill it up, anyone there for the Gator Bowl when Miami beat Tech 28-13? The whole upper deck on the Miami side was EMPTY.)

Third, Jacksonville has a history of not even supporting their own NFL team. What makes the GBA think that they can continue to sell that stadium out without local support? They should be focusing on their own city's population and their lack of support and not on the fan bases of the teams that come to the game.

Because face it, they are not going to get a glamarous matchup every year in both the ACCCG and/or the bowl!

Personally, I hope the game moves to Charlotte.
 
Re: Screw the Gator Bowl

Amen. Although Atlanta would be best since 11/12th of the ACC schools have big alumni groups in Atlanta. Just look at how well the visitors show up at BDS (even when they stink they show up pretty good!).

The game could easily be played on Friday Night. Also, that would give us a reason to move the UGA game to the beginning of the season where we would have a much better chance IMHO.
 
Geetee said:
you thought you saw alot blue seats at the game Saturday? ..wait until the Gator Bowl gets played. The Gator Bowl and Jacksonville know this and that is why they don't want us. If the ACCCG wasn't enough of a draw, then what makes one think this will be?

We did our part at the ACC Championship....had at least 20,000 fans there. Wake did not do their part...and the local crowd from JAX was almost a complete no show.

GT fans spanned from one corner all the way around the other endzone and through the opposite corner. Wake had from one corner to about 3 sections down...about midfield...and did not fill their end zone.

We did our part in the ACC CG.
 
We did our part at the ACC Championship....had at least 20,000 fans there.
Walking in, I heard someone say 40K GT fans were expected. Obviously, that wasn't true but we did bring more than 30K, possibly 35K.
 
There is still a problem with the way the ACC sends its teams to bowls. The SEC does a much better job of sending teams to bowl based on their production during the season.

The Gator bowl is nice but it doesn't make sense for any team to go back after losing there (especially us). Our attendance there (for the ACC-C) could've gone a long way toward helping our reputation as a travelling fanbase - but there's no way we'll match the same number that we took down for the ACC-C game. The Chick-fil-A bowl should've played ball and accepted GT vs South Carolina (or someone similar) - GT would still sale its share of Georgia Dome tickets and the South Carolina fans would more than cover the rest (in addition to filling hotels and spending entertainment dollars). Then the Gator Bowl would be able to choose between 2 teams that it would be happy with (VT and Clemson) to play Texas.
 
I went to the ACCCG. Spent much dinero there and spent two nights there also. Let's put it this way, Santa don't work for free. Will have to watch this one on TV. Also, I have to be at work the next day.
 
prevent, we're talking about the Gator Bowl/ACC relationship here. Go whine somewhere else.
 
techjacket said:
I went to the ACCCG. Spent much dinero there and spent two nights there also. Let's put it this way, Santa don't work for free. Will have to watch this one on TV. Also, I have to be at work the next day.

The game is at noon...you could make it back to Evans, GA easily by bedtime. :-)
 
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