It's fine

The sooner you accept that the UNC game was a mirage because they have an offensive line almost as atrocious as ours the better.

Go back and watch him in subsequent games. It’s not scheme it is a complete inability to get off a block.

Close to the line, yes........the defensive backfield, no.
 
We're not where I think we should be right now, and I disapprove of Collins's performance up to this point. But some of the doom and gloom on this board is crazy. We have shown plenty of potential, and have at times looked like we could be a truly great team. Sims has the talent to be in the Heisman conversation if he improves the mental side of his game and the team comes together.

Am I super confident that Collins is the right guy to take us from potential to results? No, I'm not. But there's no way we should even be thinking about firing him after only three years, and the program is far from dead.

Next year will be pivotal -- if the team is still an inconsistent mess, then we should start thinking about an exit plan. But you don't get to success as a program or attract good HC talent by firing a coach three years after you hire him into a situation where he needs to completely remake the offense.
This here is pretty much exactly the way I feel. Being at the game watching there were plenty of disappointing moments, but also lots of reasons to be excited about the future.
 
It’s not 1998 anymore where you’re doomed if your OL aren’t all R-Jrs. The coaching, camps, weight training, etc these kids receive these days starting in middle school makes the light years ahead. People need to look around at how the game has changed. Most everyone plays and uses underclassman on one or both the OL or DL.
Yes they do. But they also use older guys who were recruited for systems that need the kind of body type they have. Our older guys were recruited to be small and flop on the ground like fish. They are ill-suited to the kind of offense we want to run now. The still play, but only because they have to. Two more recruiting years and two more years of feeding and coaching the ones we already got will get us closer to even.
 
Yes they do. But they also use older guys who were recruited for systems that need the kind of body type they have. Our older guys were recruited to be small and flop on the ground like fish. They are ill-suited to the kind of offense we want to run now. The still play, but only because they have to. Two more recruiting years and two more years of feeding and coaching the ones we already got will get us closer to even.
We have 4 transfers in our chamber - upperclassman or multi year college players at least - who aren't 3O lineman.

Those who are leftovers 3O OL have now spent 2+ years beefing up.

It still not a valid excuse or reason for what we’re seeing.
 
We have 4 transfers in our chamber - upperclassman or multi year college players at least - who aren't 3O lineman.

Those who are leftovers 3O OL have now spent 2+ years beefing up.

It still not a valid excuse or reason for what we’re seeing.
Beefing up a flopping fish only gets you a fat flopping fish.
 
Beefing up a flopping fish only gets you a fat flopping fish.
Then, explain why our uber talented recruiting head coach swung and missed in the portal as badly as he has. Or why on the high school recruiting trail he hasn’t found FBS players to overtake in mass the FCS or walk-on talent he was dealt - as often that wants to be labeled on here.
 
Then, explain why our uber talented recruiting head coach swung and missed in the portal as badly as he has. Or why on the high school recruiting trail he hasn’t found FBS players to overtake in mass the FCS or walk-on talent.
The best coaches swing and miss on a lot of recruits. And linemen usually take longer to get ready to play.
 
Beefing up a flopping fish only gets you a fat flopping fish.
I thought one benefit of going to a pro-style offense is our fresh/soph an transfers would be easy plug and play. I agree the 3O lineman can't block anything, but should be able to at least take out some people's legs.
 
We have 4 transfers in our chamber - upperclassman or multi year college players at least - who aren't 3O lineman.

Those who are leftovers 3O OL have now spent 2+ years beefing up.

It still not a valid excuse or reason for what we’re seeing.
If it is NOT size, body type, and conditioning, is Brent Key a fraud? We have a handful of backs and a four star qb that can't perform because of a FCS front line.
 
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I wish that was a Waffle House cup
 
and next year there will still be more freshman and soph's - most of our decent players stand a good chance of hitting the portal
This is what it boils down to for me. If GC is as good a recruiter and coach as he says he is, then he’ll keep the talent we have here and will add more.

I’m fine with the game plan of giving him another year or two, but this is one area he can’t mess up. If we start having people jump ship, the captain needs to go immediately.
 
I thought one benefit of going to a pro-style offense is our fresh/soph an transfers would be easy plug and play. I agree the 3O lineman can't block anything, but should be able to at least take out some people's legs.
Getting enough linemen is going to take a few years. We probably need a couple of really good ones that fit the profile at each position.
 
We have 4 transfers in our chamber - upperclassman or multi year college players at least - who aren't 3O lineman.

Those who are leftovers 3O OL have now spent 2+ years beefing up.

It still not a valid excuse or reason for what we’re seeing.
Wow, a Vandy transfer on the OL and a UT transfer on the OL. One of whom shipped last season. How are we not ranked in the top 5?
 
Getting enough linemen is going to take a few years. We probably need a couple of really good ones that fit the profile at each position.
Jesus, sometimes you make so much sense. Other times, you're accidentally sending me DM's of your junk. At least, I hope to God that pic of how excited you were after the grand slam last night was an accident.
 
We are ok. There is a million threads going on and I just want to bring everyone down to earth. We are not the best as of the moment, but When you look and see 85% of our team is freshman and sophmores I feel like we need to stop and take a second to look and just calm down.

They're only 85% freshman and sophmores because everybody got two bonus COVID redshirts.
 
Wow, a Vandy transfer on the OL and a UT transfer on the OL. One of whom shipped last season. How are we not ranked in the top 5?
Stingtalk: We need a coach and program that will recruit along with the other P5 schools. No moar FCS or academy level players.

Also Stingtalk: No, not those P5 recruits.
 
Jesus, sometimes you make so much sense. Other times, you're accidentally sending me DM's of your junk. At least, I hope to God that pic of how excited you were after the grand slam last night was an accident.
When I gave the chick in front of me a high-five I wiped it off on her hand.
 
Stingtalk: We need a coach and program that will recruit along with the other P5 schools. No moar FCS or academy level players.

Also Stingtalk: No, not those P5 recruits.
Vandy is a P5 only because the SEC refuses to kick them out
 
Yes they do. But they also use older guys who were recruited for systems that need the kind of body type they have. Our older guys were recruited to be small and flop on the ground like fish. They are ill-suited to the kind of offense we want to run now. The still play, but only because they have to. Two more recruiting years and two more years of feeding and coaching the ones we already got will get us closer to even.

Our ol is worse than under sewak
 
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