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JJacket said:
When was it ever said Pastner had the most difficult roster transition, idiot?
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You aren’t serious, are you? How about after damn near every game for the last five years? Trying listening to the post game shows.

Our margin for error is zero,” Pastner said. “We’re the most inexperienced team in all of college basketball. If we’re not near perfect or perfect in effort, execution and energy, we’re just not able to win. We have severe limitations. That’s what it is in a major rebuild job."

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When I got the job, Georgia Tech told me it was going to be a major rebuild job in year one. We just have no margin for error. We’re really thin in a lot of areas and we’ve had a couple of injuries that make us even more thin. This is a major rebuild job.

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Should I continue?
 
andrew said:
Hiring someone to do a five or six year job doesn't mean you aren't allowed to check in on progress for five or six years. I'd actually say it would be idiotic to not evaluate progress along the way; I can't imagine paying someone millions of dollars to do something and not asking for regular updates I can use to evaluate how it's going and make changes if necessary.
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And I'm pretty certain he is being evaluated. I doubt Stansbury is happy. I doubt Collins is happy. If he became a miserable douche like some of y'all, we could kiss all recruiting goodbye. Obviously, our fans aren't bringing it, being most of them are little bitches who's ego hangs on us winning and losing so they are skeered to show up for the UGAg game this season already
 
clapper said:
You aren’t serious, are you? How about after damn near every game for the last five years? Trying listening to the post game shows.

Our margin for error is zero,” Pastner said. “We’re the most inexperienced team in all of college basketball. If we’re not near perfect or perfect in effort, execution and energy, we’re just not able to win. We have severe limitations. That’s what it is in a major rebuild job."

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When I got the job, Georgia Tech told me it was going to be a major rebuild job in year one. We just have no margin for error. We’re really thin in a lot of areas and we’ve had a couple of injuries that make us even more thin. This is a major rebuild job.

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Should I continue?
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Is that the same as what you said? You said most difficult roster transition. Obviously, our BB coach had a major rebuild, it is why the prior coach was öööö canned.
 
GTRules said:
Yes they do. But they also use older guys who were recruited for systems that need the kind of body type they have. Our older guys were recruited to be small and flop on the ground like fish. They are ill-suited to the kind of offense we want to run now. The still play, but only because they have to. Two more recruiting years and two more years of feeding and coaching the ones we already got will get us closer to even.
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Minihan might be the most under-rated OL on the team, and Cochran and Johnson are older guys with the right body type. Next season, the '20 and '21 recruits on the OL will be So's and Jr's who Key wanted (not many 2nd choices among them). Another Cochran type from the portal will be a good addition to these Sos and Jrs. Won't have depth and PT together next year, but in 2023 the Big Cry excuses are over and done. That's why a 5 year deal makes a LOT more sense than 7. I agree that the bright moments give hope, but the confusion, disorganization, and players chipping at each other in the secondary, are offsetting.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
It’s not 1998 anymore where you’re doomed if your OL aren’t all R-Jrs. The coaching, camps, weight training, etc these kids receive these days starting in middle school makes the light years ahead. People need to look around at how the game has changed. Most everyone plays and uses underclassman on one or both the OL or DL.
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I remember reading a preseason magazine back in the 90s touting Duke was returning all of their offensive linemen. My first thought was, but it's still Duke.​
 
clapper said:
They were told it would take 5-6 years to make the most difficult roster transition in the history of college sports since Josh Partner’s most difficult roster transition in the history of evar. Not that the coaching staff would need 5-6 years to get their collective heads out of their asses.
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CarsonNewmanJacket said:
More like we are collectively pissed that there is zero improvement, even with a team of mostly Collins recruits.
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andrew said:
Hiring someone to do a five or six year job doesn't mean you aren't allowed to check in on progress for five or six years. I'd actually say it would be idiotic to not evaluate progress along the way; I can't imagine paying someone millions of dollars to do something and not asking for regular updates I can use to evaluate how it's going and make changes if necessary.
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We have seen improvement on offense, even in a year with severely depleted OL.

The defense is puzzling to be sure. Seems to me like we came up with a gimmick defense against UNC that worked like Rocky switching from righty to lefty against Apollo Creed, but isn't very effective once other teams have some film of it.

To say that the team is "mostly Collins recruits" without acknowledging that they are Freshman and Sophomores is just stupid. The reason it is 5 or 6 years is that you have to get your players in and they have be mature as compared to the starters they are going up against.

It is logical to expect linear progress, but in reality, it is going to be more exponential, given the need to get guys in and get them matured.

It is what it is.
 
JJacket said:
Someone dug a pic out of this fine fellow who took it upon himself to speak out for thousands of GT fans.

I masked his face because, hell, he's a dumbass. He isn't a ST holder, being he is normally asking for free tix.

If you are him, you're a moron.

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Dagumit we lost another one to the dark side.
 
JJacket said:
Is that the same as what you said? You said most difficult roster transition. Obviously, our BB coach had a major rebuild, it is why the prior coach was öööö canned.
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In the context of both coaches’ comments, yes, it is, because CGC used the exact same words. The difference between the two, is that despite the constant reminders of how ööööty his team is, CJP showed from the beginning that he knew how to coach a game. His problem has always been that he’s a cheater. CGC at least has that going for him.
 
TechRush said:
Freshman and Sophomores can be on their 3rd or 4th year due to the COVID year.
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Just count Years out of HS and save 21 pages of arguing back and forth, for some reason people want to allow CV19 to make stuff harder than it should be.
 
JJacket said:
Oh, it's you again. I'm getting pretty frightened the closer we get to the BC game knowing you'll approach me and I will shrink away, frightened by you. Did you agree to the $100 Western Carolina bet yet? You all but guaranteed a GT loss so I figured you could just take some easy money from me
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Ahhhhh he's back, you went pretty silent there for a couple days.
 
coit said:
We have seen improvement on offense, even in a year with severely depleted OL.

The defense is puzzling to be sure. Seems to me like we came up with a gimmick defense against UNC that worked like Rocky switching from righty to lefty against Apollo Creed, but isn't very effective once other teams have some film of it.

To say that the team is "mostly Collins recruits" without acknowledging that they are Freshman and Sophomores is just stupid. The reason it is 5 or 6 years is that you have to get your players in and they have be mature as compared to the starters they are going up against.

It is logical to expect linear progress, but in reality, it is going to be more exponential, given the need to get guys in and get them matured.

It is what it is.
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What improvements have we seen on offense? Jahmyr Gibbs, who started out as an electric back, is seeming to fizzle out. Jeff Sims is still making extremely careless mistakes. We don't play our running backs who are hot, aka Donte. We are getting worse on the O Line (which I don't know how that's possible). Our receivers other than Adonicas, who is seeming to become a solid receiver at this point, seem to be regressing. Defensively, I've watched Juanyeh Thomas turn from an All American to just an average, run of the mill safety in the ACC. Tariq Carpenter has SEVERELY taken a step back. Our D Line is the only thing seeing improvement. Charlie Thomas who started out on top of the world at the beginning of the season is falling off. Special Teams is always questionable. Like what specific improvements are we seeing?
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
What improvements have we seen on offense? Jahmyr Gibbs, who started out as an electric back, is seeming to fizzle out. Jeff Sims is still making extremely careless mistakes. We don't play our running backs who are hot, aka Donte. We are getting worse on the O Line (which I don't know how that's possible). Our receivers other than Adonicas, who is seeming to become a solid receiver at this point, seem to be regressing. Defensively, I've watched Juanyeh Thomas turn from an All American to just an average, run of the mill safety in the ACC. Tariq Carpenter has SEVERELY taken a step back. Our D Line is the only thing seeing improvement. Charlie Thomas who started out on top of the world at the beginning of the season is falling off. Special Teams is always questionable. Like what specific improvements are we seeing?
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I realize I'm just wasting my time replying to you, but here you go. You again show ignorance by calling out the OL without mentioning the injuries. Here's our offensive performance, showing improvement.

2019 - 16 points per game
2020 - 24 points per game
2021 - 26 points per game

Beyond that, anyone who actually watches the game can see that the offense is improving. If you think they are regressing, then you must not know much about football.

As for Defense, I said that was puzzling. We don't seem to know how to disguise what we are doing, and are only really successful game was the one we whipped out a gimmick alignment that teams had not seen before.
 
coit said:
I realize I'm just wasting my time replying to you, but here you go. You again show ignorance by calling out the OL without mentioning the injuries. Here's our offensive performance, showing improvement.

2019 - 16 points per game
2020 - 24 points per game
2021 - 26 points per game

Beyond that, anyone who actually watches the game can see that the offense is improving. If you think they are regressing, then you must not know much about football.

As for Defense, I said that was puzzling. We don't seem to know how to disguise what we are doing, and are only really successful game was the one we whipped out a gimmick alignment that teams had not seen before.
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Hm, didn’t realize that points per game was the only offensive metric. Actually, if you take a look, we only have 2 of our 8 games scoring OVER that average. Now, this is a little statistical analysis, but outliers skew averages, making averages not the choice of stat for most statisticians.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Hm, didn’t realize that points per game was the only offensive metric. Actually, if you take a look, we only have 2 of our 8 games scoring OVER that average. Now, this is a little statistical analysis, but outliers skew averages, making averages not the choice of stat for most statisticians.
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You'd have to be clueless to not see improvement on offense. No matter what metric I throw out, you'd dismiss it. Last word from me on the topic.

/Peace
 
coit said:
You'd have to be clueless to not see improvement on offense. No matter what metric I throw out, you'd dismiss it. Last word from me on the topic.

/Peace
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He's upset because he thinks he would have been recruited by CPJ had CPJ stayed
 
coit said:
You'd have to be clueless to not see improvement on offense. No matter what metric I throw out, you'd dismiss it. Last word from me on the topic.

/Peace
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Yeah because I’ve seen regression in our star guys…
 
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