Jaron Willis

CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Looking at 247, we have gone from the 24th ranked class to the 35th in less than a week. Is that juice?
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Depends on who we get to replace the guys we lost. The number of commits is part of the calculation, so just replacing the numbers would raise our ranking. I think we'll probably end up around 30th. Still good by historical standards.
 
jacket67 said:
Depends on who we get to replace the guys we lost. The number of commits is part of the calculation, so just replacing the numbers would raise our ranking. I think we'll probably end up around 30th. Still good by historical standards.
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Quality over quantity…
 
JoeCakeEater said:
From your article...

College athletics are dead... "Non-profits" and other organizations are pooling money to pay players? How can Tech compete with this bullshit? I'm about to be done college sports altogether.
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…yes they are …it appears that way …Tech can’t compete, just look at revenue comparisons for all 65 P5’s …I’m headed that way myself.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
We’ll I mean we do have a bunch of Tech owned companies, but the guys there aren’t going to donate when we have an idiot as a head coach. It’s kinda like how it’s pretty hard for a high school kid who’s gotten into 4 wrecks in his 2 years of driving can’t get cheap insurance anywhere. It’s too risky, and the companies aren’t gonna waste their time on it.
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Nobody has ever donated big $$$ to Tech athletics. Ever. Has nothing to with our coach. What we have thought of as "big donors" would look paltry to a school like Texas, or just about any of the SEC schools
 
daBuzz said:
Jesus, you’re obtuse.
Yes, Paul could win with less talent. But ALSO YES, Paul couldn’t recruit top level talent to his system. So it’s a 2-edged sword. You win while he’s here but you suck balls when he leaves because your talent will be poor.

And ratings right now are incomplete because part of your class ranking is based on number of signings. So wait until signing day to judge this class.

Oh, and that 34th ranking is still higher than any year under Paul, I believe.
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So many threads turn into these arguments and I don't understand the point. Can't we all just agree that CPJ was a great x's and o's coach and CGC has recruited some highly rated talent and what we need for sustained success is a coach (or coaching staff) that can do both? Seems pointless to keep arguing the strengths and weaknesses of each one.
 
GT to AZ said:
So many threads turn into these arguments and I don't understand the point. Can't we all just agree that CPJ was a great x's and o's coach and CGC has recruited some highly rated talent and what we need for sustained success is a coach (or coaching staff) that can do both? Seems pointless to keep arguing the strengths and weaknesses of each one.
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You're making my exact point. I'm just pointing out to the "Paul could win 6 with these guys" crowd that "Paul wasn't able to get these guys".

Collins has to do better next year to keep his job and I hope he does. Hell, I hope we go undefeated, beat UGA so bad they have to call in computer science majors to figure out how to get 3 digits to show on the scoreboard on the side of GT and then win the national championship. I don't think it's likely, given the schedule. But if they just figure out how not to let receivers run past our secondary without a DB within 10 yards of the guy, we should win more than we did this year.
 
daBuzz said:
Yes. But you're also missing the forest for the trees.

Johnson also COULD NOT recruit worth a damn and that's one of the reasons we're in the boat we're in right now. At least Collins is restocking the talent pool for whomever comes next down the path.

So if you want to call Collins a clown for not winning (fair, IMO) you also have to throw Johnson into that clown category for leaving the cupboard so frigging bare from a talent standpoint.
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Talent is leaving of their own accord
 
JJacket said:
Nobody has ever donated big $$$ to Tech athletics. Ever. Has nothing to with our coach. What we have thought of as "big donors" would look paltry to a school like Texas, or just about any of the SEC schools
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Bloomberg has donated over $1,000,000,000 to Johns Hopkins. The south has to catch up on their valuation relative to the rest of the country.
 
daBuzz said:
And yet, even if we lose Willis and the other wavering commit, this class will still be ranked higher than any CPJ pulled in so how about just STFU'ing for a bit, huh?
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Can we say the recruiting metrics are correct if it never materializes on the field? They tend to change a lot when you reevaluate 5 years later
 
QuadF said:
Can we say the recruiting metrics are correct if it never materializes on the field? They tend to change a lot when you reevaluate 5 years later
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Sure you can. The recruiting metrics are simply a judgement of talent by pools of “experts” at a point in time…that is, during the senior year of high school. Obviously, all kids don’t mature at the same rate, all don’t have the same wherewithal to work, some don’t receive the same level of coaching, etc etc.

But it’s still the law of large numbers in play here. I would wager that most of your college stars come from the 4 and 5 star pools and throw in some 3 stars as well. Sure, there will be the occasional JJ Watt, who was a low-ranked high school player who works his tail off in college and blossoms into a stud. But the factory teams that win year after year after year are doing so because of one reason….they’re fishing in the deep end of the recruiting talent pool.
 
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daBuzz said:
Sure you can. The recruiting metrics are simply a judgement of talent by pools of “experts” at a point in time…that is, during the senior year of high school. Obviously, all kids don’t mature at the same rate, all don’t have the same wherewithal to work, some don’t receive the same level of coaching, etc etc.

But it’s still the law of large numbers in play here. I would wager that most of your college stars come from the 4 and 5 star pools and throw in some 3 stars as well. Sure, there will be the occasional JJ Watt, who was a low-ranked high school player who works his tail off in college and blossoms into a stud. But the factory teams that win year after year after year are doing so because of one reason….they’re fishing in the deep end of the recruiting talent pool.
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For sure. The 4 and 5s are going to be the most accurate because they get the most looks. But the 3* range is massive and 2* includes anyone not scouted, so it's rather imprecise. So it's a very rough estimate, but yes the bamas of the world we can be very confident in their rankings and avg stars.
 
midatlantech said:
Bloomberg has donated over $1,000,000,000 to Johns Hopkins. The south has to catch up on their valuation relative to the rest of the country.
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Are they on the schedule next year?


What southern football school is even remotely comparable to Johns Hopkins?

I would like to get my Sentra's valuation up relative to a Ferrari but it isn't going to happen.
 
mookie43 said:
Sucking up to big money is a large part of his job.......
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They shouldn't make the decisions just because the have "big" money. Whether right or wrong, TStan believes CGC is the right guy and is willing to put his job on the line. I think that is admirable. and something you don't see often anymore.
 
Graybeard Jacket said:
They shouldn't make the decisions just because the have "big" money. Whether right or wrong, TStan believes CGC is the right guy and is willing to put his job on the line. I think that is admirable. and something you don't see often anymore.
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Admirable or foolish...
 
Graybeard Jacket said:
Whether right or wrong, TStan believes CGC is the right guy and is willing to put his job on the line. I think that is admirable. and something you don't see often anymore.
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Maybe you know what tStan believes - I have no idea.

tStan agreed to a buyout that we cannot afford that for an unproven, rookie coach was uncalled for and unecessary. What was Collins other choice? Stay at Temple? Really? We had to mortgage the family jewellery to "steal" him away from Temple? No. tStan effed up and caved to Collins' agent.

So what does he do now? Admit he screwed up or double down? You are a smart guy - which one do you think it is?

When you shove your entire pile of chips into the middle of the table, you better be sure nobody can beat the pair of twos you got.
 
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