Let's think about it logically

Fans didn’t show up all year, probably hard to have faith we’d sell tickets and/or get a bowl committee to believe we’d show up when we didn’t do it all year (sr day and a trip Athens as two recent proof points).

The thought that the fan base would rally for PJ is oversold here too—there are plenty happy to see him and his offense go. Would be a hard sell to anyone looking at our program from the outside in.
 
gtGreg768b said:
It just seems so implausible... Deny a tier one bowl that is within a couple hour drive because we wouldn't commit to guaranteeing what seems like a totally reasonable number of tickets... There is no upside to doing that at all. I don't buy that this was a conscious decision made by our AD. If it comes out that this is truly what happened, I'll eat crow, but until then, I call bullshit. Stansbury isn't stupid.
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Until then:

 
EffinDane said:
At this point, I know that Belk Bowl went with UVA over us due to the fact that we wouldn't guarantee the number of tickets they wanted.

Depending on the number, yeah, I'm ööööing pissed off at TStan. Guarantee the money, then tell the fans what they need to buy to make GTAA whole. We put up the money for the recruiting staff. Engage the fan base instead of being an asshole and "going dark" like our last dickhole AD.
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FFS that "going dark" comment was about the last couple days, merely a reflection of how busy he was navigating CPJ's retirement and then serving on the most important football committee at its most important meeting of the whole year. Of course he's taking and making phone calls now.
 
18in32 said:
FFS that "going dark" comment was the last 3-4 days, merely a reflection of how busy he was navigating CPJ's retirement and then serving on the most important football committee at its most important meeting of the whole year. Of course he's taking and making phone calls now.
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The Champ said:
Fans didn’t show up all year, probably hard to have faith we’d sell tickets and/or get a bowl committee to believe we’d show up when we didn’t do it all year (sr day and a trip Athens as two recent proof points).

The thought that the fan base would rally for PJ is oversold here too—there are plenty happy to see him and his offense go. Would be a hard sell to anyone looking at our program from the outside in.
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I agree with this and it probably was the deciding factor.

That being said, the GTAA should have known this and put up a pre-sale and pushed this narrative immediately after the PJ announcement. If you need hard data, get hard data FFS. I absolutely would have committed to buy tickets to every bowl except Detroit the day of the announcement. I wanted to give PJ a send off and would have paid the inflated bowl tax if thats what was required to make it happen.

The pre sales are nothing new, though I’m not sure when we stopped doing them. I’m sure it coincides with the rise of stubhub and the availability of bowl tickets with 90% discounts.
 
Akinji07 said:
Yes it is very disappointing to have the team sent to Detroit. Especially for those of us who like to travel to bowl games. But the reality is if I were in charge of picking a team to come to my bowl, I would have a hard time relying on the Tech fanbase to show up after going 7-5 with a loss to uga, in the middle of a coaching search. I don't know how Todd's to blame here. He's about to spend a lot of money we don't have to hire a coach that's going to make or break Tech football. I wouldn't guarantee the ticket sales either. Not at this point. I'm not trying to be Polyanna but after going bowless 2 out of the last 3 years, I'm glad the team gets an opponent they should be favored against and send Paul off with a win.

Onwards and upwards. Keep positive and let's see how the next few weeks play out. And don't forget, it is never as good or as bad as it seems.
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J A C K E T H E A R T
 
JimBones said:
I agree with this and it probably was the deciding factor.

That being said, the GTAA should have known this and put up a pre-sale and pushed this narrative immediately after the PJ announcement. If you need hard data, get hard data FFS. I absolutely would have committed to buy tickets to every bowl except Detroit the day of the announcement. I wanted to give PJ a send off and would have paid the inflated bowl tax if thats what was required to make it happen.

The pre sales are nothing new, though I’m not sure when we stopped doing them. I’m sure it coincides with the rise of stubhub and the availability of bowl tickets with 90% discounts.
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Exactly. There were two ways to do it. Claw for an exciting bowl, push your chips in and proactively bring in the fan base to support. "Dear season ticket holder, we've pulled out all the stops to give our seniors a great send-off. We're in an exciting time for our program with our coaching search, which means we need all the help we can get right now. Right now, the best way to support the program, including the hiring process for the next leader of the Yellow Jackets, is to buy bowl tickets via GTAA! We appreciate your support!"

The other way is what the GTAA chose instead - reactive - we get a bad bowl and a guilt trip. Who is going to help cover tickets for the Quick Lane Bowl?
 
EffinDane said:
Exactly. There were two ways to do it. Claw for an exciting bowl, push your chips in and proactively bring in the fan base to support. "Dear season ticket holder, we've pulled out all the stops to give our seniors a great send-off. We're in an exciting time for our program with our coaching search, which means we need all the help we can get right now. Right now, the best way to support the program, including the hiring process for the next leader of the Yellow Jackets, is to buy bowl tickets via GTAA! We appreciate your support!"

The other way is what the GTAA chose instead - reactive - we get a bad bowl and a guilt trip. Who is going to help cover tickets for the Quick Lane Bowl?
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Would you have been more disappointed if all of that had been visibly done, and we still wound up in Detroit?
 
JimBones said:
The pre sales are nothing new, though I’m not sure when we stopped doing them. I’m sure it coincides with the rise of stubhub and the availability of bowl tickets with 90% discounts.
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Did we not do the presale thing this year? I got the "Jackets are going bowling, click here for bowl ticket information" e-mail right after the Miami game, which I assumed was the standard "how many tickets would you want for each of these bowls" deal. I didn't bother with that, though, because the AT deadline was 12/6, well after we would know where we were going.

JRjr
 
12.5k tickets? What is face, $100? Even at $50 thats a waste of our money. I'd rather have five more recruiting coordinators and land the players to go to bowls that matter.

Why does anyone have to guarantee tickets? They sell the schools a bunch of badly overpriced nosebleed tickets and everybody knows you can scalp good sideline tickets for $10 day of game.

Im not saying I know how to fix it, but is sure as hell is broken.
 
Akinji07 said:
Yes it is very disappointing to have the team sent to Detroit. Especially for those of us who like to travel to bowl games. But the reality is if I were in charge of picking a team to come to my bowl, I would have a hard time relying on the Tech fanbase to show up after going 7-5 with a loss to uga, in the middle of a coaching search. I don't know how Todd's to blame here. He's about to spend a lot of money we don't have to hire a coach that's going to make or break Tech football. I wouldn't guarantee the ticket sales either. Not at this point. I'm not trying to be Polyanna but after going bowless 2 out of the last 3 years, I'm glad the team gets an opponent they should be favored against and send Paul off with a win.

Onwards and upwards. Keep positive and let's see how the next few weeks play out. And don't forget, it is never as good or as bad as it seems.
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What the hell happened to Akinji? Did someone kidnap him?
 
The Champ said:
Fans didn’t show up all year, probably hard to have faith we’d sell tickets and/or get a bowl committee to believe we’d show up when we didn’t do it all year (sr day and a trip Athens as two recent proof points).

The thought that the fan base would rally for PJ is oversold here too—there are plenty happy to see him and his offense go. Would be a hard sell to anyone looking at our program from the outside in.
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UVA drew 42k for miami vs our 50k so it's not like they are world beaters in attendance.
 
andrew said:
I wish all those people who were thing to buy tickets and go to Charlotte for an exhibition would buy tickets and go to Bobby Dodd for our real games.
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Part of this is people clamoring for a matchup that interests them - GT v Auburn. Most of our fans couldn’t care less about matchups with Duke, UVA, unc, etc. All of these problems we have with attendance would be much lower if our opponents were Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, etc. and I don’t just mean opposing fans filling the stands.
 
savbandjacket said:
Part of this is people clamoring for a matchup that interests them - GT v Auburn. Most of our fans couldn’t care less about matchups with Duke, UVA, unc, etc. All of these problems we have with attendance would be much lower if our opponents were Auburn, Tennessee, Florida, etc. and I don’t just mean opposing fans filling the stands.
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Yeah, no doubt. Still kind of silly that we spent all season complaining about our stadium being half empty and our fans not showing up, and now we're acting surprised and outraged that a bowl wouldn't want us.
 
JJacket said:
A lot of variable involved? The alot of variable is was one of the following bowl eligible: Duke, UNC, Wake, NC State, UVA, VT. That is the lot of variable.
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I noticed none of the variables are GT
 
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