Miami Coach

JJacket said:
No, Oregon has some of the best facilities in college football, and definitely the best facilities west of Texas. They recruit on a different level than GT. They have money for staff, coaches, analysts....much more than GT. I know you just absolutely dipise Collins and have a need to make ööööty comments about him, but winning 10 at Oregon is almost a given. They might have an off year or so, every so often, but otherwise, Oregon is a power.
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Half of what you said are GT problems. Play in a weaker conference aka the ACC - check. Have $$ to support athletics despite claiming all the millionaire alums is a GT problem - check. So I’m curious, if Collins could win 10 a year at Oregon, but only 3 to date at GT, what is the real issue here? Is it Collins or GT?
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
Half of what you said are GT problems. Play in a weaker conference aka the ACC - check. Have $$ to support athletics despite claiming all the millionaire alums is a GT problem - check. So I’m curious, if Collins could win 10 a year at Oregon, but only 3 to date at GT, what is the real issue here? Is it Collins or GT?
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I dunno how Collins would do at Oregon but he would have started with a much higher paid staff they be did here.
 
smokey_wasp said:
I dunno how Collins would do at Oregon but he would have started with a much higher paid staff they be did here.
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Agreed. So again, who’s to blame? Collins? Or is it GT for being cheap / pretending to care? I think there’s an obvious answer here.
 
FightOn!Jacket said:
That’s week 1. And UGA is a 20 point favorite. Oregon lost quite a few players to the Portal including their #1 RB Dye to USC. They added the erratic Bo Nix as their starting QB (at least to start the season). But no one expects Oregon to hang with UGA with a new staff / system in week 1. Oregon will win 9 games in a transition year. That’s not too bad.
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And UGA, like it or not, is one of 3-4 teams that are a head above the next level of teams. They are solidly there with Alabama, Ohio State. Oregon is a level down with several other teams, Miami is not one of them.

Miami is nowhere near sniffing that level. They are just going through another one of their "Da U is back, baybeee"

Nobody is afraid of Miami anymore. Nobody is intimidated by their physicality or speed. Teams like Alabama and Georgia aren't a bunch of hicks anymore, they are pro football, professional organizations. Miami is not in that world.
 
JJacket said:
Every coach Miami has brought in over the almost 20 years they have been in the ACC is the one that is "embracing the culture" and concentrating on closing off south Florida. Da U is back baby!!!! Rinse. Repeat.

I don't know where you get that it is "hatred" for Miami. Cristobal has a mediocre record as a HC. They have, once again, thrown some cash at the program.

Let me guess, in your world, this time is "different"?
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FWIW, Cristobal is not "embracing the culture" that is Miami. He's actually trying to make a complete 180 with the program and instill humility and discipline. He already got rid of the turnover chain. How well all that sort of stuff is received in Miami is what is yet to be seen. If he can get them to buy in and embrace that, I think they are poised for another run. If not, it will be a huge mess and likely worse than it is now. Time will tell.
 
OmnipoTech said:
He's won multiple conference championships in multiple conferences, he's an excellent recruiter, and he improved FIU and Oregon over what they had done under the previous HCs. That's a hell of a lot better resume than the goof we hired.
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Remind me who was the DC on that FIU squad Cristobal improved?
 
GoGATech said:
FWIW, Cristobal is not "embracing the culture" that is Miami. He's actually trying to make a complete 180 with the program and instill humility and discipline. He already got rid of the turnover chain. How well all that sort of stuff is received in Miami is what is yet to be seen. If he can get them to buy in and embrace that, I think they are poised for another run. If not, it will be a huge mess and likely worse than it is now. Time will tell.
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Getting rid of the turnover chain is a common sense decision that you wouldn’t expect from Miami no matter who the coach is.
 
ibeeballin said:
Remind me who was the DC on that FIU squad Cristobal improved?
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Goof Collins, and their defense was statistically worse than their offense.

You don't see anyone around here touting Ted Roof for being the D coordinator on the 2014 team do you? Because we all still know he sucked, just like Goof.
 
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GoGATech said:
FWIW, Cristobal is not "embracing the culture" that is Miami. He's actually trying to make a complete 180 with the program and instill humility and discipline. He already got rid of the turnover chain. How well all that sort of stuff is received in Miami is what is yet to be seen. If he can get them to buy in and embrace that, I think they are poised for another run. If not, it will be a huge mess and likely worse than it is now. Time will tell.
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The turnover chain was not part of Miami culture
 
So FEI has been the go to statistical measure every year except when it’s time to push the anti-Collins agenda?
 
ibeeballin said:
So FEI has been the go to statistical measure every year except when it’s time to push the anti-Collins agenda?
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Don't think I have ever used FEI, but go off. Games are won and lost based on points scored, and nothing else.
 
OmnipoTech said:
Don't think I have ever used FEI, but go off. Games are won and lost based on points scored, and nothing else.
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So scoring 100pts vs Kawasaki St compared to 100pts vs 2021 UGA is no difference measuring your offense?
 
ibeeballin said:
So scoring 100pts vs Kawasaki St compared to 100pts vs 2021 UGA is no difference measuring your offense?
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The defense plays the same teams as the offense right?

I also don't see 2021 UGA or Kawasaki St on 2010 FIU's schedule, do you? I do see that they scored the most points against Pitt and Troy, who was 2nd in their conference.
 
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OmnipoTech said:
The defense plays the same teams as the offense right?

I also don't see 2021 UGA or Kawasaki St on 2010 FIU's schedule, do you? I do see that they scored the most points against Pitt and Troy, who was 2nd in their conference.
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This argument is going entirely over your head. Maybe you should look up how FEI is calculated. He didn't say you ever used it, he's saying reputable reporting sources use FEI as the standard to measure but you are only using PF and PA which by itself is a useless stat.
 
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