My sources say Ted Roof for DC

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  1. refrigeratormover

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    Beej, Teddy doesn't care what people will think of him. He will come in and work his A$$ off with what he has, go out and get some recruits that we might not have gotten. I say give him time. I'm just sad that I'm going to be in Charleston on Saturdays and not "On The Flats" watching Teddy run the defense.
     
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    That was a really good read, actually. The conclusion: Roof has coordinated defenses with very sub-standard talent to above-average important statistics (although worse-than-average yards and points), so with a decent bit of talent at PSU, the writer thought he'd outperform (which he did).
     
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    First things first, I don't like the hire, but let's take a look at his career as opposed to rank speculation and conjecture.

    He was first a DC at Western Carolina in 1997. I don't think it's really fair to judge that as part of his body of work, but if you do his defense wasn't bad. The most they gave up all season was 30 points, ironically to Paul Johnson and Ga Southern. Otherwise, he gave up 28 points (loss to ETSU), 25 points (win v. the Citadel), 24 points (loss to Chatt). The rest of the games the defense held the other team to under 20 points, including a shutout against VMI. WC was terrible that year, breaking 20 points only three times, so the offense wasn't doing him any favors. Overall, a pretty decent defense although I don't think he gets much credit for it (positive or negative).

    Then he was DC for us from 99-2001 (not looking at his years as an assistant). 2000 and 2001 were pretty good defenses for us. We were a near mess in 1999. 100th in total defense (413.8 yards per game) and 93rd in points (30.3 per game).

    In 2000 we were 12th in rush defense (94.5 ypg) but last in pass defense (285 ypc), and 70th in total D (379.64) - although we improved about 40 yards per game. Defensive scoring vastly improved, going up to 21st nationally (19 points per game).

    In 2001 we were 23rd in rush defense (117 ypc), 53rd in pass defense (216.25 ypg), so again an improvement over the previous year - 32nd overall in total defense at 333 ypg. Scoring defense was worse, 37th nationally at 22.3.

    Overall, the defense arguable improved every year he was here from 1999 to 2001.

    I liked him a lot at Duke (and was up in the area when he was coach). Even though his teams were terrible, he seemingly recruited good there (for Duke at least). For instance, in 2005 they landed a 5 star DT, a 4 star DE, and a (can't believe I'm typing this) 4 star kicker. That's on top of 8 three star guys (which for Duke is a lot). Similarly in 06 they landed a four star DE and a four star RB and had 9 three stars. 07, Roof's last year, they got 7 three stars. Roof was fired from Duke on November 26, 2007. Before then, for the 2008 class, he had another commit from a 4 star CB, and four more 4 stars. Renfree committed in January, but I don't know how big Duke was on his radar while he was committed to us.

    When he was DC at Duke (arguably all that's relevant), they improved from 113th to 58th nationally in total defense from 2001 to 2002. Roof was basically promoted to head coach because of how decent the defense was.

    After head coach at Duke, he was DC at Minnesota (2008), Auburn (2009-2011), and PSU (2012). He inherited the worst defense in the country at Minnesota, but improved by 135 yards in total defense. Scoring defense improved from 109th to 61st in the country. Gophers went from 1-11 to 7-6. Not stellar numbers, but decent improvement.

    Auburn was a mixed bag. He won a national championship, but Auburn was a mess in 2009 (68th in total D and 79th in scoring D). They were mildly improved in 2010 (60 in total D, 53rd in scoring D), but regressed in 2011 (81 and 79).

    At PSU he had the no. 29 total defense (350 ypg) and no. 16 scoring defense (19 ppg)

    In sum, actually looking at the numbers I don't think he's as bad a hire as I thought he was. He stunk up the joint at Duke and Auburn. But he's shown capable of producing a top 30 defense with us and UCF. I don't think we will end up with stellar defenses, but I like his aggressive nature (hopefully will lead to stops, which is really what we need) and his hire should translate into much better LB play. I'd maybe give it a B-.
     
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    I would like to punch your source in the face.
     
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    I like the hire. For those of you that don't get over it and pull your panties out of your vag.
     
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    Are you kidding me? Did you even read his original post?

    Again, not commenting on the validity (although it certainly sounds like a very reasonable measurement), just pointing out what was said.
     
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    Roof I don't believe ever coached a down at UCF. He was hired, then left to be DC at penn st when BOB was hired.

    so take that off the list

    he has had only 2 good years of defense on his resume i can see, and penn state was a good defense he inherited....
     
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    Why would O'Leary hire him again if he blamed Roof for the poor performance at GT? Doesn't really make sense, huh?
     
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    If Roof was constantly overruled by O'Leary, why was he going to coach at UCF before getting the PSU job?
     
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    I would buy tickets to see the outcome of that misbegotten punch.
     
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    Auburn held Oregon to 19 points in the BCS title game two years ago. That's doing some work.
    I'm not wild about this hire, but I'm willing to see how it plays out.
     
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    hoss using any method over roof's career shows he is a mediocre at best coord.

    sorry man. Doesn't matter how you drive there...once you are there, you are there.
     
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    Maybe he realized his mistake?

    You don't hire someone twice because you think they are bad.
     
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    I know some other posters have listed the stats, but I figured I'd look up as many stats as I could to try to make me feel better about this hire and compile them all together. These numbers are going to be from his time as a DC only.

    2012- Penn State
    23rd Rush - 128 yards/game
    50th Pass - 255 yards/game
    29th Total - 353 yards/game
    16th Scoring - 19 pts/game

    2011- Auburn (was only at UCF 33 days)
    94th Rush- 189 yards/game
    51st Pass - 218 yards/game
    81st Total - 408 yards/game
    79 Scoring - 29 pts/game

    2010 - Auburn
    9th Rush - 109 yards/game
    108th Pass - 259 yards/game
    60th Total - 369 yards/game
    53rd Scoring - 24 pts/game

    2009 - Auburn
    78th Rush - 156 yards/game
    57th Pass - 218 yards/game
    68th Total - 374 yards/game
    79th Scoring - 28 pts/game

    2008 - Minn
    68 Rush - 143 yards/game
    93rd Pass - 240 yards/game
    80th total - 383 yards/game
    61st Scoring - 25 pts/game

    It should be worth noting that Minn had the worst defense in FBS in 2007. They won 1 game in 2007 and went 7-5 in 2008. So while those numbers aren't exactly stellar they are a huge improvement from the year prior.

    2003- Duke
    63rd Rush - 158 yards/game
    53rd Pass - 217 yards/game
    57th total - 375 yards/game
    76th Scoring - 29 pts/game

    2002 - Duke
    28th Rush - 120 yards/game
    102nd Pass - 254 yards/game
    65th total - 375 yards/game
    83rd Scoring - 29 pts/game

    2001 - GT
    23rd Rush - 117 yards/game
    53rd Pass - 216 yards/game
    32nd Total - 333 yards/game
    37 Scoring - 22 pts/game

    2000 - GT
    12th Rush - 94 yards/game
    114th Pass- 285 yards/game
    70th Total - 379 yards/game
    21st Scoring - 19 pts/game

    1999- GT
    89th Rush - 189 yards/game
    100 total - 413 - yards/game
    93rd Scoring - 30.3 pts/game

    What I take from this is that Roof is aggressive on D to stop the run but doesn't seem to be too great at stopping the pass. While I think this is the approach Tech needs to adopt to win games, aggressive D that can pressure the QB and stop the run, I'm not sure I like Roof as the coach.
     
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