Northwestern’s Stadium Rebuild & What is the Ideal BDS@HGF?

The Jacket said:
If any of you actually gave a planck!öööö about the field, you'd be advocating for a better, state of the artificial surface. But you don't. You're all buttmad over literally nothing and you will flail in futility forever like the ignorant filthy hippies you are. Grow the öööö up. Turf is here and it will be here long after you are dead and buried beneath your beloved bitchass blades.
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Joke is on you. I'm getting buried under turf next to Jimmy Hoffa at Giants' stadium.
 
Walton said:
No one cares about the turf but old farts.

The west stands have good sight lines but everything else sucks. It should be prime seating but we stick the club section in the East side and no one wants to be in their seats during the game.

Either we have to move to the Benz full time or the West stands have to be re-done and modernize. All we have done for 20 years is kick the can down the road.

If someone wants to step up with money then the 3 things required:

1) Money for coaches and staff
2) Money for NIL
3) Money to re-do West

That is your bang for your buck that would pull in more GT fans and just maybe sidewalk fans. They don’t care what turf we have.
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I don’t see much ROI renovating the west stands. These prime seats are already mostly sold out. We need to add cushy seats with food to less desirable sections where we can sell additional seats without cannibalising current revenue. South and north stands are prime candidates.
 
West are the best seats because of sun and other reasons. They need to update it, increasing revenue per seat and concession $ per seat. Add suites and stuff like that.

The objective shouldn’t be to make your core fans suffer. It should be have then bring someone with them because it is a good experience, on and off the field.
 
AmpuTECHture said:
Return the field to grass. Demo Wardlaw, bring back the lower bowl that connected the lower stands and had a street presence on North avenue; this includes the sick collonade that used to exist too. Lower bowl could have standing seating and suites, similar to Utah's new south stands. An awning could be added overhanging that end.

In an ideal world, you would do something very unique with the stadium. In this case, you connect Grant Field with Peters Park. You demo the Edge and Upper North. The north end zone is effectively open to the north, with grass extending though the existing plaza, creating (at least implicitly) a continual park from Grant Field to a renewed Peters Park (demo the parking deck). The next step would be to connect the upper stands. You would do this with an upper horseshoe that faces south(effectively spanning between the two lower stands and keeping the ground area open and free of columns - basically show badass engineering - you can incorporate some badass suites and offices there, and öööö it dorms too).

The overall form of the stadium is a balance between two horsehoes. The lower horseshoe (from before the 80s) faces north with an open north end zone, and it sits below the upper horseshoe, which faces south with an open south end zone. The lower horsehoe openess extends to Peter's Park, connecting it to the campus. The upper horsehoe openess up to the sky, connecting it with Atlanta.

Someday I'll design and render this öööö and post it.
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Assuming you are in architecture as the name implies. I'd love to have them open up to GT students/alums to propose a reno that would be both cost effective and also modernize the stadium experience (while keeping a lot of what makes it such an awesome place to see a game).

The biggest problem is obviously space. And that you've got a frankenmonster of a stadium.

Any chance they could build out, over Techwood? That would at least get you 20 feet or so in width. Same thing if you could build up and over Bill Moore. The biggest thing to me is that you need more seats between the 20s. You'd almost do better shrinking the upper north and adding another floor or two of luxury boxes / premium seating (which maybe you could integrate with the upper half of your dual horseshoes.
 
Legal Jacket said:
Any chance they could build out, over Techwood? That would at least get you 20 feet or so in width.
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Scuttlebutt has been that the City of Atlanta won't allow building over Techwood. Then again, we now have an alumnus as Mayor. Hmmm...
 
Walton said:
West are the best seats because of sun and other reasons. They need to update it, increasing revenue per seat and concession $ per seat. Add suites and stuff like that.

The objective shouldn’t be to make your core fans suffer. It should be have then bring someone with them because it is a good experience, on and off the field.
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I don't really feel like the west stands need much of an update at all, coming from someone who has been sitting there since the 80s - especially not the bones of the west stands. I wouldn't complain if you wanted to update the troughs, or pull the bleachers for seats, etc., but where the seats are located should not change. The reason they can charge a premium is because they are great seats. Same thing with the concessions - you've got easy access to beer, chik-fil-a, papa johns, general concessions, dippin dots, etc. etc. etc. You really don't need much of a concession update at all, imo.

The biggest improvement they need on the west side are better wifi (especially if they are pushing the remote ordering and things like voting on songs, twitter polls, etc.). If they really wanted to do something fancy, they could try to open up the concourse to push it out and create more room / sunlight from outside the stadium, but overall I wouldn't change much.
 
Flywheel said:
In my mind this looks like a toilet seat installed backwards.
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Pretty much ...
Legal Jacket said:
Assuming you are in architecture as the name implies. I'd love to have them open up to GT students/alums to propose a reno that would be both cost effective and also modernize the stadium experience (while keeping a lot of what makes it such an awesome place to see a game).

The biggest problem is obviously space. And that you've got a frankenmonster of a stadium.

Any chance they could build out, over Techwood? That would at least get you 20 feet or so in width. Same thing if you could build up and over Bill Moore. The biggest thing to me is that you need more seats between the 20s. You'd almost do better shrinking the upper north and adding another floor or two of luxury boxes / premium seating (which maybe you could integrate with the upper half of your dual horseshoes.
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Yeah did both undergrad and grad at Tech for arch. I would love to see the College of Design create a project related to to stadium. It would be complex and help bridge academics and athletics, even in a small way.

As far as techwood, I can't remember who actually owns the road. Building above could be an option. Regardless, any new addition or renovation of the stadium should include some badass cantilevers and öööö as a showcase to the engineering prowess of the institute.
 
I wonder if Cabrera can combine Capital Institute projects and GTAA building projects? FSU did this with a renovation years ago.

If so, then you can build new academic/athletic facilities on the Wardlaw and Edge footprints.

Edge could be one floor a gym for students and the other four or five floors be the best athletic training facilities and locker rooms, aka the Ritz Carlton of athletics. Have an entrance from stadium to a floor that is the Tech Hall of Fame. Place a smaller video and scoreboard board in the corner of the stadium here (and another in the Northeast corner).

Wardlaw could be a conference center for guest educational lectures and a Tech broadcast studio, improved data center for small cell and stadium Wi-Fi, beer garden facing the field for guests and fans, state of the art guest lockers, improved video audio system, and parking deck.

Put chair-backs in all seats except student seating. Might lose some seats but my goal is to improve fan experience. Make us entertaining and enjoyable for Atlanta businesses. This could help with NIL. Have AD and President’s suites that are the best damn suites there are. Something fit for Fortune 500 CEOs.

Place ribbon led board around stadium, TVs in breezeways and bathrooms, local Atlanta restaurant vendors, invite food trucks pre/post game outside stadium, make a stadium app to order food/ beverages in club and lower east, build 4 person mini suites (I don’t know where, but they have these at Benz and they’re sweet) , more mobile vendors in aisles, clubhouse stores inside stadium or Callaway plaza.

Inside breezeways and club lounges I’d have Tech themed murals, memorabilia, and old gold everywhere you turn.

Make it pro sports luxury with college football traditions. The Ramblin Wreck comes through the tunnel, the band gets priority over music, students get loud bleachers, etc. Keep the TV timeout video board games and entertainment.

Grass field!
 
Damn, that is nice. Shame it is in the Midwest and not on our campus with a GT on it.

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BranMart said:
Just change all that purple to navy blue and we would be set! :crapstorm:
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Seriously, that premium 200 level seating deck looks like it could be some of the best seats in CFB.

I don't like the arch'ed sidelines would be my only complaint. I prefer the straight sidelines with the stands closer in.
 
JJacket said:
Seriously, that premium 200 level seating deck looks like it could be some of the best seats in CFB.

I don't like the arch'ed sidelines would be my only complaint. I prefer the straight sidelines with the stands closer in.
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Agree on the sideline seats.
 
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This is T. Boone Pickens Stadium (OK ST) dropped at rough scale onto the current site of BDS. That's capacity 55,500 in a horseshoe. Notice to fit everything you have to completely eliminate Techwood Drive and all the old dorms and Brittain. I actually think it's a great opportunity to build new space as part of the stadium and new dorms and dining which could double as stadium service on game day. However ... just the stadium is a cool $1b or so. Doing the dorms and dining as well and making usable space as part of the stadium footprint probably gets you closer to $1.25-$1.5b. The giant gray blob is a new "super Wardlaw" building that fully encloses the horseshoe, houses the jumbotron the facade, has luxury seating, etc.


However ... it's a given that such grandiose plans aren't going to happen. As soon as they break ground on the new Edge Center, that's a fresh $75m reason to not do this. Sigh.
 
georgia_tech_swagger said:
BDS-2.jpg


This is T. Boone Pickens Stadium (OK ST) dropped at rough scale onto the current site of BDS. That's capacity 55,500 in a horseshoe. Notice to fit everything you have to completely eliminate Techwood Drive and all the old dorms and Brittain. I actually think it's a great opportunity to build new space as part of the stadium and new dorms and dining which could double as stadium service on game day. However ... just the stadium is a cool $1b or so. Doing the dorms and dining as well and making usable space as part of the stadium footprint probably gets you closer to $1.25-$1.5b. The giant gray blob is a new "super Wardlaw" building that fully encloses the horseshoe, houses the jumbotron the facade, has luxury seating, etc.


However ... it's a given that such grandiose plans aren't going to happen. As soon as they break ground on the new Edge Center, that's a fresh $75m reason to not do this. Sigh.
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If you’re eliminating “the old dorms and Brittain” to build a stadium, it’s not roughly the same footprint. That’s a lot of extra space.
 
JJacket said:
Damn, that is nice. Shame it is in the Midwest and not on our campus with a GT on it.

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How many filters were applied to that thing to make it look like a spaceship?
 
savbandjacket said:
If you’re eliminating “the old dorms and Brittain” to build a stadium, it’s not roughly the same footprint. That’s a lot of extra space.
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It's not extra space it's different space. This is what it looks like to maximize sideline seating instead of being a lazy Dave Braine and throwing in a massive endzone.
 
georgia_tech_swagger said:
BDS-2.jpg


This is T. Boone Pickens Stadium (OK ST) dropped at rough scale onto the current site of BDS. That's capacity 55,500 in a horseshoe. Notice to fit everything you have to completely eliminate Techwood Drive and all the old dorms and Brittain. I actually think it's a great opportunity to build new space as part of the stadium and new dorms and dining which could double as stadium service on game day. However ... just the stadium is a cool $1b or so. Doing the dorms and dining as well and making usable space as part of the stadium footprint probably gets you closer to $1.25-$1.5b. The giant gray blob is a new "super Wardlaw" building that fully encloses the horseshoe, houses the jumbotron the facade, has luxury seating, etc.


However ... it's a given that such grandiose plans aren't going to happen. As soon as they break ground on the new Edge Center, that's a fresh $75m reason to not do this. Sigh.
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It may not be quite that bad. It looks like there's room to shift west based on where the existing bleachers end.
 
We need to pay off some of the existing debt before we even think about rebuilding anything. That includes the Edge building.
 
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