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Patenaude:
Thacker:
Actual football talk.
Thacker:
Actual football talk.
I don’t think that’s Collins management style - at least based on what he says in public. He’s very much a “I hired you to do this. I have confidence you can do it. Now, there’s the deep end.”This isn't a question on the videos but rather contentment with our coordinators so far. I was thinking about the situation with Paul Johnson where he doubled as Offensive Coordinator here, and Manny Diaz taking on the role as Defensive Coordinator for Miami this year. Collins has years of experience at multiple stops including SEC schools as Defensive Coordinator. How would you guys feel about Collins taking on the additional role similar to Manny and spending more money on an OC, or adding extra staff? Ideally I prefer the positions to stay decoupled but his defenses seemed like they were pretty good and we could use the money elsewhere.
I do not think that would be useful.This isn't a question on the videos but rather contentment with our coordinators so far. I was thinking about the situation with Paul Johnson where he doubled as Offensive Coordinator here, and Manny Diaz taking on the role as Defensive Coordinator for Miami this year. Collins has years of experience at multiple stops including SEC schools as Defensive Coordinator. How would you guys feel about Collins taking on the additional role similar to Manny and spending more money on an OC, or adding extra staff? Ideally I prefer the positions to stay decoupled but his defenses seemed like they were pretty good and we could use the money elsewhere.
Think you've got it backwards there bud.I like Thacker, and I think he will get it done, although it might be in small steps. I frankly do not like or trust P'Nut at all.
Why don't you like Thacker?Think you've got it backwards there bud.
I guess not so much got it backwards... It's not that I don't like Thacker, but I think Patenaude is the better coordinator of the two. When it's all said and done, players have to make the plays. When they do, coordinators look like geniuses. When they don't, they look like idiots. We've had a ton of plays that were *almost* there because somebody missed a block or made the wrong read or a bad throw.Why don't you like Thacker?
How u kno dis?CGC very much had his hand in the defense last weekend. Let's hope that continues.
Have you counted the number of times in the past two years, the O has gone down the field with moderate ease, but once they get inside the 10 yard line, everything changes. And it's not a stout goal-line defense they are facing, it's a clueless OC who has done the EXACT SAME THING EVERY TIME they have been in that situation --- wasted, stupid 1st and 2nd down plays, chaos on the sideline trying to figure out what to call on 3rd down and taking so long they have to stop the clock, only to run yet another stupid play, and finally a too-little-too-late desperation 4th down play, or a FG attempt. Every one, or most, of those FG attempts were missed last year. This year, we have 6 points out of the 4 times it has happened. You call that a good OC??? I call him a clueless bum. If you don't believe me, look back at the NIL game (desperation 4th down after another wasted time out to change his mind), the KSU game, and 3 times against Clemson with only 6 points, and look back at at least 4 games last year with the exact same pattern.Think you've got it backwards there bud.
How u kno dis?
This isn't a question on the videos but rather contentment with our coordinators so far. I was thinking about the situation with Paul Johnson where he doubled as Offensive Coordinator here, and Manny Diaz taking on the role as Defensive Coordinator for Miami this year. Collins has years of experience at multiple stops including SEC schools as Defensive Coordinator. How would you guys feel about Collins taking on the additional role similar to Manny and spending more money on an OC, or adding extra staff? Ideally I prefer the positions to stay decoupled but his defenses seemed like they were pretty good and we could use the money elsewhere.
I don't believe we will ever win on a consistent basis with P'Nut calling the plays.Pnode just strikes me as the kind of guy who likes the smell of his own farts. Thacker is extremely green and it shows at times. The past two weeks give me hope on that side of the ball. Offensively, well I'm less impressed. Fundamentally, the concepts are sound, but head scratching play calling in certain situations consistently (red zone and stalling drives after a couple first downs by going away from what's working to try to misdirect the defense) and I don't feel like we seem to coordinate play calls with our substitutions. We've got to find a way to create a big play threat on offense because our margin for error to score on drives is too small right now (hey, remember CPJ saying that the past couple years he was here?).